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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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and_o such_o pernicious_a effect_n follow_v that_o people_n think_v therefore_o they_o be_v christian_n because_o baptize_v which_o opinion_n of_o they_o be_v confirm_v by_o mr._n bs._n word_n for_o they_o be_v visible_a christian_n that_o be_v baptize_v into_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n if_o they_o have_v not_o since_o by_o word_n or_o work_n renounce_v he_o and_o rest_v therein_o and_o be_v thereby_o hold_v in_o carnal_a presumption_n we_o ought_v rather_o to_o think_v those_o that_o maintain_v infant-baptisme_n play_v the_o devil_n part_n which_o expression_n of_o my_o be_v add_v the_o vanity_n of_o mr._n bs._n arguing_n will_v appear_v that_o which_o he_o have_v page_n 178._o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o thanks_n to_o i_o then_o to_o satan_n that_o i_o keep_v not_o god_n from_o make_v promise_n to_o his_o people_n which_o intimate_v i_o will_v do_v it_o if_o it_o be_v in_o my_o power_n for_o if_o there_o be_v no_o more_o thanks_o to_o i_o then_o satan_n it_o be_v because_o there_o 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of_o the_o promise_n be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o elect_n as_o the_o analysis_n show_v as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o author_n cite_v by_o i_o in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n 3._o sect_n 4._o beside_o who_o more_o may_v be_v produce_v i_o will_v add_v two_o now_o mr._n rutherfurd_a in_o that_o piece_n of_o he_o which_o be_v the_o exact_a of_o his_o work_n exercit_fw-la apol._n 2._o c._n 2._o num_fw-la 7._o soli_fw-la electi_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la in_o scripture_n foederati_fw-la silij_fw-la &_o haeredes_fw-la promissionis_fw-la rom._n 9_o 8._o the_o elect_v alone_o be_v say_v in_o the_o sctipture_n to_o be_v in_o covenant_n child_n and_o heir_n of_o the_o promise_n rom._n 9_o 8._o and_o mr._n norton_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la apollon_n c._n 2._o pag._n 30._o objectum_fw-la foederis_fw-la gratiae_fw-la sunt_fw-la soli_fw-la electi_fw-la the_o object_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v the_o elect_a alone_o next_o he_o say_v that_o i_o deny_v that_o god_n covenant_v with_o our_o infant_n to_o be_v their_o god_n in_o christ_n and_o to_o take_v they_o to_o be_v his_o peculiar_a people_n which_o be_v the_o covenant_n he_o former_o make_v with_o infant_n and_o which_o he_o now_o affirm_v what_o he_o affirm_v distinct_o i_o can_v well_o tell_v he_o do_v so_o confuse_o express_v himself_o in_o his_o book_n he_o distinguish_v between_o a_o absolute_a and_o a_o conditional_a covenant_n of_o grace_n the_o absolute_a he_o say_v belong_v only_a to_o the_o elect_a but_o this_o he_o will_v not_o be_v think_v to_o mean_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o covenant_n or_o baptisms_n seal_v of_o it_o yea_o he_o blame_v i_o often_o for_o so_o conceive_v of_o he_o and_o page_z 223._o he_o dispute_v against_o that_o tenet_n as_o my_o five_o error_n the_o conditional_a be_v a_o covenant_n of_o justification_n and_o salvation_n upon-condition_n of_o faith_n this_o he_o say_v be_v seal_v by_o baptism_n not_o the_o other_o and_o this_o he_o make_v belong_v to_o all_o the_o posterity_n of_o adam_n elect_v and_o reprobate_a and_o this_o it_o seem_v most_o likely_a he_o mean_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o covenant_n because_o it_o be_v that_o which_o baptism_n seal_v and_o they_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n be_v to_o be_v seal_v thereby_o but_o according_a to_o this_o conditional_a covenaat_fw-mi either_o all_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n whether_o elect_a or_o reprobate_a infant_n of_o believer_n or_o unbeliever_n or_o else_o none_o till_o they_o perform_v the_o condition_n which_o be_v faith_n and_o so_o not_o all_o infant_n of_o believer_n mr._n b._n in_o his_o addition_n to_o the_o saint_n everlasting_a rest_n part_n 3._o sect_n 3._o prop._n 2._o a_o conditional_a promise_n put_v nothing_o in_o be_v till_o the_o performance_n of_o the_o condition_n nor_o give_v any_o certainty_n but_o of_o such_o performance_n as_o for_o any_o covenant_n of_o god_n or_o christ_n beside_o these_o contain_v only_o the_o promise_n of_o visible_a church-membership_a or_o such_o like_a imagine_a privilege_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o infant_n of_o gentile_a believer_n i_o take_v to_o be_v a_o phantasm_n and_o when_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v mr._n bs._n opinion_n of_o infant_n visible_a church-membership_a which_o i_o can_v not_o do_v till_o i_o have_v his_o book_n i_o doubt_v not_o to_o make_v it_o appear_v to_o be_v so_o that_o not_o one_o text_n he_o have_v bring_v prove_v such_o a_o promise_n and_o that_o he_o have_v not_o prove_v more_o to_o belong_v to_o infant_n by_o promise_n than_o i_o acknowledge_v and_o yet_o neither_o visible_a church-membership_a nor_o right_a to_o baptism_n in_o infancy_n ordinary_o will_v follow_v thereon_o as_o for_o that_o he_o say_v in_o general_a term_n that_o i_o deny_v that_o god_n covenant_v with_o infant_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v their_o god_n in_o christ_n and_o to_o take_v they_o to_o be_v his_o peculiar_a people_n be_v say_v like_o a_o calumniator_n my_o word_n be_v so_o plain_a to_o the_o contrary_a in_o that_o very_a place_n in_o a_o word_n i_o have_v say_v that_o the_o covenant_n or_o promise_n of_o regeneration_n sanctification_n forgiveness_n of_o sin_n adoption_n and_o eternal_a life_n be_v not_o make_v to_o all_o the_o natural_a child_n of_o the_o most_o godly_a believer_n no_o not_o of_o abraham_n himself_o or_o to_o any_o bare_o because_o they_o be_v their_o child_n but_o because_o elect_v or_o believer_n in_o their_o own_o person_n which_o mr._n m._n and_o mr._n geree_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o i_o confess_v to_o be_v true_a as_o be_v express_o deliver_v rom._n 9_o 8._o and_o by_o the_o stream_n of_o protestant_a writer_n maintain_v but_o i_o deny_v not_o that_o many_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n nor_o dare_v i_o say_v that_o no_o infant_n of_o unbeliever_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o sense_n i_o only_o say_v i_o neither_o know_v which_o of_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o be_v thus_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o for_o the_o arguing_n that_o he_o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n do_v deny_v they_o to_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n they_o be_v build_v on_o these_o fancy_n that_o to_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o baptism_n that_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a connexion_n between_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o right_a to_o be_v baptize_v which_o with_o other_o hypothesis_n of_o paedobaptist_n i_o shall_v examine_v in_o my_o review_n mr._n b._n add_v that_o i_o flat_o deny_v infant_n covenant_v with_o god_n whereas_o my_o word_n be_v far_o from_o such_o flat_a denial_n be_v only_o these_o for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v not_o how_o any_o person_n shall_v covenant_n with_o christ_n till_o he_o promise_v etc._n etc._n which_o be_v not_o such_o a_o peremptory_a or_o flat_a denial_n as_o mr._n b._n say_v they_o be_v and_o they_o be_v true_a it_o be_v against_o all_o experience_n that_o infant_n do_v so_o covenant_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a when_o they_o be_v baptize_v cry_n and_o show_v their_o unwillingness_n as_o august_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr remiss_a et_fw-fr mer._n pecc_fw-la c._n 23._o flendo_fw-la et_fw-la vagiendo_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o eye_n mysterium_fw-la celebratur_fw-la ipsis_fw-la mysteriis_fw-la vocibus_fw-la obstrepunt_fw-la then_o mr._n b._n say_v i_o dissuade_v parent_n from_o so_o engage_v their_o child_n in_o covenant_n and_o promise_v in_o their_o name_n which_o yet_o they_o ever_o do_v in_o the_o church_n before_o christ_n and_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n to_o do_v as_o deut._n 29._o and_o other_o place_n show_v but_o in_o which_o word_n i_o persuade_v parent_n not_o to_o do_v as_o he_o say_v i_o do_v he_o
page_n 54._o where_o he_o confess_v ingenuous_o thus_o anabaptistas_n paedobaptismo_fw-la oblainantes_fw-la apertis_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la ferire_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la vesaniam_fw-la his_fw-la tell_v comprimimus_fw-la 1._o ex_fw-la parallelo_fw-la praecepto_fw-la de_fw-la circumci_fw-la sione_n 2._o ex_fw-la praxi_fw-la apostalica_n quae_fw-la quum_fw-la aliquanda_fw-la fit_a obscurior_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la à_fw-la primaevis_fw-la &_o historicis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la adjicimus_fw-la juae_fw-la licet_fw-la praefractos_fw-la anaboptistas_n non_fw-la movebunt_fw-la apud_fw-la prudentes_fw-la morigeros_fw-la &_o aejuos_fw-la renum_fw-la aestimatores_fw-la valebunt_fw-la so_o that_o according_a to_o he_o the_o main_a weight_n lie_v on_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v false_o imagine_v to_o have_v be_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o in_o some_o measure_n be_v prove_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n of_o the_o first_o not_o yet_o shake_v by_o mr._n ms._n friend_n with_o all_o his_o insight_n antiquity_n from_o which_o i_o infer_v that_o the_o ancient_n and_o learned_a afore_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v account_v infant-baptism_n to_o have_v be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n have_v reason_n from_o scripture_n not_o evident_a of_o itself_o but_o to_o be_v receive_v for_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o because_o it_o be_v not_o full_o perfect_a therefore_o confirmation_n be_v add_v which_o be_v retain_v in_o the_o english_a liturgy_n as_o necessary_o previous_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o do_v many_o of_o the_o best_a learned_a protestant_n speak_v much_o otherwise_o out_o of_o the_o heat_n of_o dispute_n against_o anabaptist_n they_o be_v far_o from_o mr._n bs._n audaciousness_n to_o assert_v it_o as_o have_v plain_a scripture_n proof_n for_o it_o the_o very_a hesitant_n resolution_n of_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o considerate_a be_v enough_o to_o repress_v his_o vain_a attempt_n and_o to_o awaken_v those_o that_o depend_v on_o his_o proof_n and_o rest_n on_o their_o infant-sprinkling_a and_o neglect_v the_o practice_n of_o be_v baptize_v after_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v so_o express_o enjoin_v in_o scripture_n as_o a_o prime_n important_a duty_n for_o their_o salvation_n sect_n xxi_o many_o thing_n be_v clear_v about_o my_o conformity_n anabaptist_n necessity_n to_o be_v baptize_v the_o manner_n of_o dip_v use_v by_o they_o their_z standing_z to_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n etc._n etc._n page_n 241._o he_o say_v i_o begin_v with_o a_o complaint_n of_o my_o suffering_n whereas_o my_o word_n be_v a_o gratulation_n for_o the_o change_n of_o my_o condition_n and_o for_o my_o sad_a complaint_n mr_n b._n make_v they_o more_o than_o they_o be_v and_o misrepresent_v i_o in_o the_o time_n and_o reason_n of_o they_o i_o let_v pass_v his_o jerke_n about_o my_o health_n and_o my_o grievance_n of_o remove_v from_o bewdley_n his_o way_n to_o heaven_n and_o i_o mr._n b._n page_n 242_o will_v vindicate_v his_o passage_n i_o cite_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o people_n of_o bewdley_n but_o he_o pass_v over_o that_o which_o go_v before_o in_o my_o epistle_n and_o make_v no_o answer_n to_o any_o of_o these_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o he_o assign_v no_o sufficient_a note_n whereby_o to_o discern_v the_o visible_a church-membership_a of_o infanr_n of_o which_o he_o speak_v 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o his_o visible_a church-membership_a of_o infant_n and_o the_o initial_a seal_n without_o institution_n of_o the_o rite_n to_o be_v so_o use_v 3._o that_o in_o the_o positive_a rite_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o we_o but_o the_o appointer_n will_v in_o some_o precept_n or_o practice_n and_o to_o show_v the_o precept_n to_o be_v against_o he_o his_o own_o word_n be_v allege_v and_o that_o right_o however_o he_o interpret_v or_o interlace_v they_o his_o interpretation_n agree_v not_o with_o his_o own_o passage_n appendix_n page_n 56._o which_o say_v neither_o be_v the_o seal_v useful_a till_o the_o accept_n and_o enter_v of_o the_o covenant_n where_o he_o place_v accept_v before_o enter_v the_o covenant_n and_o in_o both_o his_o passage_n speak_v of_o accept_v and_o enter_v with_o consent_n which_o infant_n can_v do_v page_z 243._o he_o say_v i_o seem_v to_o speak_v as_o if_o i_o have_v some_o of_o my_o old_a episcopal_a ceremonious_a spirit_n though_o he_o hope_v and_o believe_v very_o that_o i_o do_v not_o turn_v mere_o to_o the_o time_n though_o with_o the_o time_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v mr._n b._n be_v a_o stranger_n to_o i_o till_o a_o little_a afore_o these_o time_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o charge_v i_o with_o a_o episcopal_a ceremonious_a spirit_n be_v it_o worth_a while_n to_o trouble_v the_o world_n with_o it_o i_o can_v show_v how_o i_o examine_v as_o well_o as_o at_o those_o year_n i_o can_v the_o point_n in_o difference_n about_o which_o i_o be_v to_o subscribe_v and_o conform_v and_o however_o i_o be_v carry_v away_o with_o the_o stream_n yet_o my_o subscription_n be_v according_a to_o doctor_n burges_n his_o explication_n and_o my_o conformity_n upon_o mr._n spruit_n ground_n i_o be_v no_o promoter_n of_o either_o and_o in_o the_o worst_a time_n i_o think_v none_o can_v say_v but_o i_o stick_v fast_o to_o the_o main_a the_o propagate_a the_o gospel_n and_o conjunction_n with_o the_o godly_a and_o my_o oppose_v the_o bishop_n begin_v with_o the_o soon_a afore_o this_o parliament_n begin_v as_o soon_o as_o ever_o i_o deprehend_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v whole_o for_o their_o own_o rule_n and_o adversary_n to_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o for_o my_o nonconformity_n reason_n be_v give_v with_o some_o of_o the_o first_o in_o a_o sermon_n at_o a_o visitation_n at_o lemster_n november_n 24._o 1641_o since_o print_v and_o what_o i_o say_v the_o ceremony_n be_v more_o excusable_a than_o paedobaptism_n be_v true_a 1._o they_o be_v not_o at_o first_o urge_v otherwise_o then_o as_o indifferent_a thing_n paedobaptism_n be_v urge_v as_o of_o divine_a appointment_n and_o yet_o the_o chief_a principle_n of_o non-conformists'_a do_v more_o strong_o plead_v against_o it_o then_o the_o ceremony_n 2._o paedobaptism_n not_o withstand_v the_o palliate_a salve_n of_o mr._n m._n mr._n b._n i_o find_v far_o more_o pernicious_a than_o the_o ceremony_n it_o be_v 1._o the_o great_a occasion_n of_o the_o soul-destroying_a presumption_n whereby_o a_o great_a part_n of_o man_n perish_v and_o the_o genuine_a hindrance_n of_o the_o reformation_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o church-communion_n 2._o it_o quite_o pervert_v the_o end_n and_o use_v of_o baptism_n which_o the_o ceremony_n do_v only_o in_o some_o sort_n disorder_n i_o justify_v not_o the_o ceremony_n and_o therefore_o i_o need_v not_o answer_v the_o man_n he_o name_v but_o their_o write_n yield_v strong_a argument_n for_o i_o against_o 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be_v true_a that_o baptizer_n can_v otherwise_o have_v knowledge_n when_o those_o that_o be_v pious_o educate_v begin_v to_o be_v church-member_n yet_o the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o christian_n ordinary_o at_o year_n of_o discretion_n overturne_v not_o the_o true_a end_n of_o baptism_n for_o whether_o the_o true_a to_o which_o he_o add_v principal_a in_o a_o parenthesis_n as_o if_o true_a and_o principal_a be_v all_o one_o end_v of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v christ_n sign_n for_o solemn_a admission_n of_o church-member_n or_o disciple_n or_o to_o be_v a_o engage_v seal_n as_o elsewhere_o yet_o both_o these_o end_n be_v preserve_v if_o they_o be_v baptize_v many_o year_n after_o their_o be_v disciple_n it_o be_v untrue_a that_o it_o be_v my_o usual_a artifice_n to_o work_v on_o the_o affection_n of_o people_n when_o i_o mistrust_v my_o strength_n to_o work_v on_o man_n understanding_n it_o may_v be_v more_o true_o say_v of_o himself_o who_o usual_o fill_v up_o the_o vacuity_n of_o proof_n with_o childish_a