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therefore_o in_o fact_n some_o few_o be_v not_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o there_o be_v some_o outward_a forcible_a stop_n no_o inward_a let_v in_o the_o judgement_n as_o the_o israelite_n in_o fact_n give_v not_o their_o child_n the_o first_o seal_n or_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n for_o 40_o year_n in_o the_o wilderness_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o pilgrimage_n there_o so_o long_o and_o god_n bear_v with_o it_o though_o by_o equity_n they_o shall_v have_v do_v it_o upon_o the_o eight_o day_n after_o birth_n upon_o pain_n of_o cut_v off_o gen._n 17._o 2_o in_o particular_a touch_v augustine_n baptism_n that_o it_o be_v not_o do_v till_o he_o be_v about_o 34_o or_o 35_o year_n of_o age_n we_o have_v before_o acknowledge_v and_o we_o shall_v give_v a_o full_a account_n why_o anon_o after_o when_o we_o have_v do_v with_o this_o 8._o sect._n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la and_o return_v to_o his_o exercitation_n section_n 17._o where_o mr_n t._n urge_v 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annorum_fw-la erat_fw-la feâ—me_fw-la qui_fw-la decim_fw-la &_o ingeniâ—_n praeveniebat_fw-la multos_fw-la grave_n &_o doctos_fw-la viros_fw-la munera_fw-la tua_fw-la tibi_fw-la coâ—fâ—eor_fw-la do_v nine_o deus_fw-la meus_fw-la creator_n omnâ—um_fw-la &_o mulâ—um_fw-la potens_fw-la reformare_fw-la nostra_fw-la deformia_fw-la nam_fw-la ego_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la pvero_fw-la praeter_fw-la delictum_fw-la nihil_fw-la habebam_fw-la quod_fw-la enim_fw-la enutriabatur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la in_o disciplina_fw-la tua_fw-la tu_fw-la inspiraveras_fw-la nobis_fw-la nullus_fw-la alius_fw-la aug._n confess_v lib._n 9_o cap._n 6._o nor_o be_v it_o of_o moment_n whether_o he_o be_v or_o be_v not_o for_o mr_n t._n his_o conclusion_n from_o these_o premise_n of_o augustine_n adeodatus_n and_o alipius_n i_o say_v his_o conclusion_n that_o the_o church_n think_v it_o not_o necessary_a that_o all_o child_n of_o christian_n by_o profession_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n do_v not_o necessary_o follow_v but_o mr_n t._n in_o his_o examen_fw-la sect._n 8._o assert_n further_o that_o though_o he_o conceive_v with_o grotius_n on_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v much_o more_o frequent_v and_o with_o great_a opinion_n of_o necessity_n in_o africa_n then_o in_o asia_n or_o other_o part_n of_o the_o world_n for_o say_v he_o in_o the_o councilis_fw-la you_o can_v find_v ancient_a mention_n of_o that_o custom_n than_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n yet_o mr_n t._n do_v very_o much_o question_n whether_o they_o do_v in_o africa_n even_o in_o augustine_n time_n baptize_v child_n except_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o for_o the_o health_n of_o body_n or_o for_o such_o like_a reason_n i_o do_v not_o find_v say_v mr_n t._n that_o they_o hold_v that_o infant_n must_v be_v baptize_v out_o of_o such_o case_n for_o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o sundry_a of_o augustine_n tract_n as_o particular_o tract_n 11._o in_o johan_n that_o the_o order_n hold_v of_o distinguish_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la and_z baptize_v and_o the_o use_n of_o catechise_n afore_o baptism_n still_o continue_v animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v 1._o for_o the_o judgement_n of_o grotius_n as_o it_o appear_v there_o we_o have_v abundant_o speak_v of_o it_o afore_o as_o for_o we_o 2._o for_o this_o particular_a quotation_n as_o apply_v by_o mr._n t._n we_o say_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v a_o naked_a thing_n not_o back_v to_o a_o sufficiency_n of_o a_o clear_a and_o manifest_a assertion_n from_o negative_n especial_o in_o the_o point_n of_o necessity_n we_o may_v just_o quare_fw-la 1._o how_o much_o more_o frequency_n and_o necessity_n do_v mr_n t._n mean_a how_o much_o more_o can_v he_o make_v appear_v for_o sure_o he_o can_v dispute_v from_o punctilio_n and_o what_o use_n will_v mr_n t._n make_v of_o it_o if_o for_o a_o time_n there_o appear_v a_o grain_n more_o in_o africa_n then_o in_o asia_n a_o argument_n be_v not_o manage_v by_o countenance_n or_o gravity_n of_o assert_v man_n in_o divers_a country_n may_v more_o frequent_o and_o with_o more_o â—â—al_a practice_n a_o truth_n and_o yet_o the_o
truth_n be_v still_o the_o same_o yea_o different_a complexion_n and_o condition_n of_o country_n in_o receive_v or_o oppose_v a_o truth_n may_v make_v it_o to_o be_v more_o or_o less_o practise_v and_o yet_o the_o mind_n of_o true_a christian_n in_o both_o may_v be_v alike_o one_o with_o the_o rule_n yea_o if_o the_o more_o frequency_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v never_o so_o ancient_a in_o africa_n according_a to_o the_o council_n there_o whereof_o that_o in_o cyprian_n time_n be_v one_o apostle_n one_o cyprian_n be_v within_o 148_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n yet_o we_o know_v that_o it_o come_v first_o from_o asia_n sea_n asia_n this_o asia_n the_o greaâ—_n consist_v of_o anatolia_n syâ—ia_n palestina_n armenia_n arabia_n media_n assyria_n mesopotamia_n persia_n chaldea_n parthia_n hyrcania_n tartary_n china_n india_n the_o island_n of_o the_o indian_a and_o mediterranean_a sea_n where_o man_n be_v create_v christ_n bear_v wrought_a mirocle_n suffer_v all_o the_o penman_n of_o both_o testament_n act_v be_v the_o monarchy_n and_o captivity_n over_o the_o church_n great_a asia_n include_v asia_n the_o less_o since_o call_v anatolia_n propria_fw-la anatolia_n this_o anatolia_n or_o asia_n the_o less_o comprehend_v cilicia_n pamphylia_n lycia_n bythinia_n pontus_n paphlagonia_n galatia_n cappadociae_fw-la lycaonia_n pissdia_n armenia_n the_o lisse_n and_o asia_n propria_fw-la that_o be_v the_o estern_a country_n where_o be_v the_o seven_o church_n revel_v 1._o this_o include_v asia_n propria_fw-la phyrigiae'_v propria_fw-la which_o comprehend_v caria_n jonia_n lydiaa_n aeulis_n and_o both_o the_o phyrigiae'_v of_o which_o at_o least_o be_v mean_v that_o act._n 19.10_o and_o 27._o all_o asia_n hear_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o certain_a which_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o asia_n send_v unto_o paul_n suitable_o we_o quote_v justin_n martyr_n for_o one_o of_o our_o witness_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n of_o infant_n baptism_n he_o be_v a_o samaritan_n which_o be_v part_n of_o palestine_n in_o asia_n the_o great_a genere_fw-la samaritanus_n atque_fw-la è_fw-la samaritanis_fw-la ad_fw-la christi_fw-la fidem_fw-la transiit_fw-la epiphan_n some_o of_o samaria_n be_v convert_v by_o christ_n john_n 4._o v._o 5._o v._n 29._o v._n 30._o v._n 39_o after_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o word_n be_v preach_v to_o many_o village_n of_o the_o samaritan_n act._n 8.25_o justin_n martyr_n be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n about_o 28_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n to_o that_o of_o not_o baptise_v child_n in_o africa_n but_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o etc._n etc._n we_o have_v show_v the_o contrary_a out_o of_o several_a antiquity_n &_o particular_o out_o of_o cyprian_a whither_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n and_o sure_o enough_o from_o the_o life_n of_o augustin_n of_o which_o anon_o after_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o augustine_n sickness_n while_o young_a be_v some_o occasion_n of_o defer_v his_o baptism_n for_o that_o time_n for_o he_o say_v in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o confession_n and_o c._n 11._o that_o have_v be_v sick_a they_o defer_v their_o thought_n of_o baptise_v he_o that_o they_o may_v the_o more_o free_o give_v he_o his_o will_n to_o do_v what_o he_o will_v for_o the_o furtherance_n of_o his_o recovery_n which_o they_o may_v not_o allow_v he_o if_o once_o he_o be_v under_o the_o bond_n of_o baptism_n those_o word_n mr_n t._n add_v child_n be_v baptize_v for_o the_o health_n of_o body_n or_o such_o like_a reason_n seem_v to_o clash_v against_o that_o he_o so_o often_o press_v in_o his_o book_n that_o augustine_n and_o the_o ancient_n do_v too_o much_o put_v salvation_n and_o the_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n in_o baptism_n which_o present_o mr_n t._n repeaâ—es_v within_o 25_o line_n follow_v you_o may_v conceive_v say_v mr_n t._n how_o light_a augustine_n judgement_n be_v by_o consider_v the_o ground_n upon_o which_o augustine_n hold_v and_o urge_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n so_o vehement_o which_o be_v say_v mr_n t._n as_o all_o know_v that_o read_v his_o work_n the_o opinion_n he_o have_v that_o without_o baptism_n infant_n must_v be_v damn_v by_o reason_n of_o original_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o take_v away_o but_o by_o baptism_n and_o for_o this_o quote_v several_a place_n out_o of_o augustine_n t._n 7._o de_fw-fr nat._n &_o gra._n c._n 8._o t._n 2._o ep._n 28._o for_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o chatechise_v and_o the_o baptise_a and_o that_o the_o use_n of_o catechise_n afore_o baptism_n still_o continue_v and_o a_o great_a while_n after_o he_o mean_v augustine_n time_n all_o this_o do_v not_o overthrow_v the_o common_a tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o that_o antiquity_n and_o upward_o as_o well_o as_o downward_o in_o baptise_v christian_n child_n the_o catechise_n be_v for_o the_o child_n of_o those_o who_o parent_n be_v not_o suppose_v christian_n as_o before_o we_o abundant_o show_v out_o of_o tertullian_n and_o junius_n upon_o he_o and_o out_o of_o pareus_n calvin_n bullinger_n marlorat_n etc._n etc._n on_o heb._n 6.2_o and_o this_o be_v practise_v in_o all_o protestant_a kingdom_n to_o this_o day_n notwithstanding_o the_o constancy_n of_o baptise_v infant_n if_o there_o be_v not_o use_v a_o right_a judgement_n to_o determine_v who_o be_v christian-parent_n that_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o man_n not_o of_o the_o ordinance_n or_o its_o institution_n if_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o answer_v that_o quotation_n of_o augustine_n with_o other_o out_o of_o augustine_n i_o may_v abound_v with_o his_o sentence_n for_o infant_n baptism_n as_o his_o collation_n of_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n his_o collation_n of_o baptism_n with_o the_o flood_n the_o cloud_n and_o red_a sea_n divers_a time_n his_o say_n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v defer_v that_o repentance_n be_v not_o absolute_o universal_o necessary_a before_o baptism_n his_o several_a tract_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a one_o etc._n etc._n which_o we_o need_v not_o quote_v to_o they_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o augustine_n all_o which_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n augustine_n speak_v of_o catechise_n before_o baptism_n viz._n of_o those_o who_o parent_n be_v not_o christian_n if_o with_o nazianzen_n he_o have_v hold_v that_o little_a child_n of_o three_o year_n old_a be_v chatechise_v to_o answer_v that_o they_o understand_v not_o may_v be_v baptize_v what_o be_v that_o more_o to_o the_o purpose_n then_o to_o baptize_v they_o while_o infant_n we_o must_v understand_v that_o in_o most_o of_o the_o father_n time_n there_o be_v no_o whole_a kingdom_n or_o for_o the_o most_o part_n convert_v or_o religious_a worship_n set_v up_o by_o allowance_n of_o the_o state_n but_o the_o general_a of_o they_o be_v heathen_n therefore_o of_o necessity_n there_o must_v have_v be_v some_o catechise_n afore_o the_o baptise_v of_o some_o and_o for_o baptise_v infant_n for_o bodily_a health_n etc._n etc._n name_v but_o not_o quote_v out_o of_o augustine_n as_o his_o opinion_n we_o can_v answer_v it_o out_o of_o augustine_n who_o say_v 55._o t._n 7._o col._n 84._o c._n edit_n basil_n ibid._n col._n 55._o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o profit_n all_o that_o baptism_n profit_v not_o without_o charity_n that_o one_o baptism_n by_o faith_n purge_v and_o that_o the_o virtue_n of_o baptism_n be_v not_o in_o the_o water_n but_o in_o the_o word_n which_o we_o forbear_v to_o quote_v and_o translate_v at_o large_a as_o have_v too_o much_o if_o it_o may_v have_v be_v prevent_v trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o quotation_n already_o they_o be_v obvious_a to_o he_o that_o read_v augustine_n but_o mr_n t._n 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o object_n that_o catechise_n afore_o baptism_n continue_v in_o augustine_n time_n and_o after_o a_o great_a while_n in_o asia_n because_o peter_n cluniacensis_fw-la say_v that_o there_o have_v be_v none_o but_o infant_n baptize_v in_o all_o europe_n for_o 300_o or_o 500_o year_n afore_o his_o time_n but_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n in_o asia_n we_o answer_v first_o touch_v cluniacensis_fw-la we_o have_v say_v abundance_n afore_o second_o animadver_n animadver_n that_o this_o argument_n do_v no_o more_o determine_v any_o thing_n about_o asia_n then_o about_o africa_n which_o be_v mr_n t._n his_o qu._n in_o hand_n and_o for_o africa_n we_o have_v hear_v abundant_o out_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o antiquity_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n three_o cluniacensis_fw-la profess_v himself_o a_o latin_a ignorant_a of_o greek_a and_o other_o tongue_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o determine_v here_o any_o thing_n concern_v place_n out_o of_o europe_n but_o be_v silent_a concern_v they_o four_o touch_v baptism_n of_o infant_n in_o asia_n we_o hear_v afore_o to_o that_o mr_n t._n object_n augustine_n and_o ambrose_n his_o judgement_n for_o infant-baptisme_n as_o put_v too_o much_o in_o the_o ordinance_n as_o conduce_v to_o salvation_n
pet._n 2.9_o examine_v which_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o the_o israelite_n exod._n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 6._o therefore_o believer_n of_o the_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n which_o the_o israelite_n have_v and_o therefore_o the_o child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o child_n of_o the_o israelite_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v mr_n t._n his_o answer_n be_v first_o if_o this_o argument_n proceed_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o there_o be_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n as_o of_o old_a among_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v which_o i_o will_v have_v understand_v in_o this_o sense_n there_o be_v now_o no_o such_o nationall-church_n as_o among_o the_o israeliet_n so_o as_o that_o a_o person_n shall_v be_v account_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o englishman_n scoâ—_n dutchman_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o speech_n joppose_v not_o they_o which_o affirm_v note_n note_n the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n second_o exod._n 19.5_o 6._o god_n speak_v not_o of_o a_o privilege_n flow_v from_o birth_n but_o obedience_n three_o the_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o the_o disperse_a jew_n and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n lie_v liable_a to_o exception_n when_o it_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o be_v say_v of_o the_o jew_n as_o if_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o gentile_n four_o the_o sense_n be_v you_o which_o believe_v ver_fw-la 7._o who_o god_n have_v call_v out_o of_o darkness_n be_v a_o holy_a nation_n whither_o jew_n or_o gentile_n by_o spiritual_a regeneration_n as_o believer_n be_v call_v a_o family_n or_o kindred_n ephess_n 3.15_o the_o household_n of_o faith_n gal._n 6.10_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 1_o tim._n 3.15_o a_o people_n 1_o pet._n 2.10_o wherefore_o in_o this_o family_n kindred_n house_n people_n be_v only_a believer_n who_o not_o carnal_a birth_n but_o spiritual_a cause_v to_o be_v reckon_v in_o that_o number_n we_o reply_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a thus_o the_o argument_n in_o my_o eye_n do_v not_o proceed_v to_o suppose_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n for_o it_o do_v not_o say_v the_o nation_n of_o believer_n but_o the_o believer_n of_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n beside_o it_o recite_v a_o text_n write_v to_o the_o jew_n who_o be_v scatter_v from_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n throughout_o pontus_n galatia_n cappadocia_n asia_n and_o bythinia_n chap._n 1._o v._n 1._o and_o when_o they_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n a_o person_n be_v not_o count_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n quatenus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la precise_o as_o he_o be_v a_o jew_n but_o as_o he_o be_v circumcise_v or_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o circumcise_a and_o so_o to_o be_v circumcise_v also_o a_o jew_n be_v cut_v off_o if_o not_o circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o institution_n to_o abrabraham_n gen._n 17._o and_o a_o gentile_a though_o a_o gentile_a be_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n if_o circumcise_v ibid._n gen._n 17._o just_o as_o a_o englishman_n as_o a_o englishman_n be_v not_o reckon_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o church_n in_o england_n if_o unfit_a to_o be_v baptise_a but_o keep_v out_o or_o a_o damnable_a heretic_n after_o baptism_n but_o be_v cast_v out_o or_o if_o one_o be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o baptize_v though_o mr_n tomb_n seem_v to_o oppose_v nationall_n church_n yet_o he_o set_v they_o up_o thus_o far_o wherein_o those_o of_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n i_o mean_v the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o approve_v mr_n tomb_n that_o the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n nor_o will_v mr_n tomb_n please_v himself_o with_o the_o direct_a inference_n that_o will_v follow_v from_o his_o express_a word_n which_o inference_n be_v this_o that_o if_o a_o nationall_n synod_n in_o england_n shall_v determine_v that_o infant_n of_o believer_n shall_v be_v baptize_v while_o infant_n mr._n t._n must_v subject_a to_o it_o and_o lay_v down_o all_o his_o exercitat_fw-la examination_n and_o appendix_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n as_o labour_v in_o vain_a cancel_v writing_n a_o old_a almanac_n for_o mr_n tomb_n have_v not_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a consequence_n reserve_v to_o himself_o by_o any_o express_v here_o so_o much_o as_o this_o exception_n that_o he_o will_v not_o submit_v in_o case_n they_o determine_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o his_o judgement_n but_o that_o he_o will_v have_v his_o liberty_n to_o stand_v out_o against_o the_o determination_n if_o any_o can_v at_o the_o first_o sight_n of_o this_o sudden_o divine_a and_o edict_n by_o proclamation_n that_o this_o exception_n be_v suppose_v it_o may_v be_v as_o sudden_o and_o rational_o argue_v back_o again_o that_o this_o will_v have_v be_v soon_o understand_v of_o the_o vulgar_a and_o ready_a be_v believe_v of_o the_o wise_a if_o it_o have_v be_v here_o express_v but_o if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o suppose_v than_o the_o question_n will_v be_v first_o whether_o mr_n t._n according_a to_o his_o design_n have_v prevent_v all_o offence_n to_o any_o of_o who_o he_o will_v be_v right_o understand_v touch_v nationall_n synod_n second_o what_o great_a thing_n have_v he_o say_v than_o divers_a other_o with_o who_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v close_o in_o point_n of_o church-government_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o reply_n touch_v exod._n 19.6_o that_o the_o place_n be_v speak_v to_o the_o parent_n suppose_v upon_o condition_n of_o obedience_n do_v no_o way_n infringe_v that_o the_o child_n of_o those_o obedient_a parent_n shall_v be_v count_v of_o that_o holy_a nation_n that_o be_v among_o the_o repute_a holy_a of_o that_o nation_n witness_v their_o circumcision_n and_o their_o no-capacity_n of_o disobedience_n to_o the_o three_o particular_a 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but_o we_o must_v say_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v fail_v if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o lawful_a ergo._n mr_n t._n answ_n 1._o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v consist_v without_o baptism_n as_o in_o the_o crucify_v convert_v thief_n etc._n etc._n second_o neither_o perhaps_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v therefore_o incumbent_a three_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n ludou._n vives_z in_o his_o comment_n upon_o aug._n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 27._o have_v these_o word_n no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n unless_o he_o be_v of_o grow_v age_n already_o and_o when_o the_o same_o person_n know_v what_o that_o mystical_a water_n mean_v and_o desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o it_o and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o a_o image_n of_o which_o thing_n we_o see_v yet_o in_o our_o baptism_n of_o 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integrity_n or_o ripeness_n of_o body_n and_o mind_n etc._n etc._n but_o give_v not_o proof_n or_o reason_n but_o only_o one_o single_a instance_n of_o augustine_n himself_o for_o a_o universal_a proposition_n 3._o as_o we_o note_v afore_o that_o walfrid_n gross_o mistake_v in_o the_o allege_v that_o one_o instance_n of_o augustine_n for_o walfrid_n say_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la which_o we_o have_v under_o our_o eye_n that_o augustine_n report_v in_o his_o confession_n of_o himself_o that_o he_o continue_v a_o catechumenus_fw-la a_o chatechise_v person_n till_o he_o be_v 25_o year_n old_a before_o he_o be_v baptize_v when_o as_o augustine_n say_v of_o himself_o in_o his_o book_n of_o confession_n that_o he_o be_v not_o convert_v till_o about_o the_o thirty_o year_n of_o his_o age_n after_o which_o he_o continue_v a_o catechize_v one_o about_o two_o year_n in_o which_o time_n he_o write_v against_o the_o academian_o and_o write_v his_o soliloquy_n and_o in_o his_o 34_o year_n of_o his_o age_n he_o be_v baptize_v at_o mellain_n of_o ambrose_n you_o see_v then_o how_o little_a credit_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o dream_v walafrid_n in_o this_o point_n of_o augustine_n 4._o walafrid_n confess_v that_o upon_o the_o increase_n of_o diligent_a search_n into_o divine_a religion_n man_n of_o understanding_n in_o christian_a doctrine_n find_v that_o peccatum_fw-la originale_fw-la adae_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o original_a sin_n of_o eve_n do_v hold_v guilty_a not_o only_o those_o that_o have_v commit_v actual_a sin_n but_o those_o that_o have_v not_o according_a to_o the_o 51_o psalm_n in_o sin_n do_v my_o mother_n conceive_v i_o and_o rom._n 3._o all_o have_v sin_v and_o come_v short_a of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o that_o from_o adam_n we_o have_v all_o sin_v etc._n etc._n that_o upon_o these_o ground_n of_o scripture_n they_o that_o be_v those_o religious_a man_n baptize_v their_o infant_n into_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o this_o 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and_o spiritual_a kin_n of_o gossip_n follow_v upon_o that_o as_o thereby_o to_o blemish_v walafridus_n than_o mr_n t._n break_v his_o own_o shin_n for_o mr_n t._n do_v go_v upon_o the_o leg_n of_o walafridus_n to_o fetch_v we_o a_o antiquity_n against_o infant-baptism_n if_o mr_n t._n do_v but_o use_n walafridus_n his_o antiquity_n of_o the_o invention_n of_o those_o two_o thing_n we_o answ_n 1._o gossip_n be_v long_o before_o augustine_n time_n even_o in_o tertullia_n time_n many_o hundred_o year_n afore_o superstition_n of_o divers_a sort_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n soon_o after_o constantine_n time_n and_o spiritual_a kin_n of_o gossip_n be_v but_o a_o novel_a late_a dream_n of_o y_a night_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n false_o so_o call_v 3._o that_o neither_o of_o these_o invention_n necessary_o depend_v on_o infant_n baptism_n more_o than_o a_o rope_n of_o sand_n or_o pebble_n in_o a_o with_o for_o as_o much_o as_o if_o believer_n practise_v the_o baptism_n of_o their_o child_n it_o be_v seldom_o but_o one_o of_o the_o parent_n be_v alive_a in_o the_o infancy_n of_o the_o child_n kneel_v follow_v the_o communion_n and_o adoration_n of_o the_o element_n follow_v that_o kneel_v yet_o these_o do_v nothing_o disparage_v the_o communion_n itself_o in_o the_o institution_n and_o substance_n of_o it_o but_o only_o defile_v the_o communicant_o that_o so_o superstitious_o use_v that_o sacred_a thing_n thus_o of_o walafridus_n strabo_n now_o of_o peter_n de_fw-fr bruis_n and_o of_o peter_n cluniacensis_fw-la his_o epistle_n to_o two_o a._n b_o b._n and_o two_o b_o b._n against_o he_o which_o be_v call_v epistolae_fw-la contra_fw-la petro-brusianorum_a &_o heinricianorum_n haereses_fw-la and_o well_o may_v de_fw-fr bruis_n and_o heinricus_n be_v tax_v with_o heresy_n if_o that_o be_v true_a cluniacensis_fw-la charge_v upon_o they_o and_o he_o profess_v twice_o that_o he_o will_v not_o accuse_v they_o upon_o uncertainty_n and_o report_n 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tract_n de_fw-fr patrum_fw-la authâ—ritate_fw-la c._n 9_o augustinus_n aeternis_fw-la flammis_fw-la adjudic_fw-la at_o infant_n sine_fw-la badtismo_fw-la morientes_fw-la by_o consider_v the_o ground_n upon_o which_o augustine_n hold_v and_o urge_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n so_o vehement_o which_o be_v as_o all_o know_v that_o read_v his_o work_n the_o opinion_n he_o have_v that_o without_o baptism_n infant_n must_v be_v damn_v by_o reason_n of_o original_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o take_v away_o but_o by_o baptism_n yea_o though_o he_o want_v baptism_n out_o of_o necessity_n urge_v those_o place_n joh._n 3.5_o rom._n 5.12_o continual_o in_o his_o dispute_n against_o the_o pelagian_o particular_o tom_n 7._o de_fw-la natura_fw-la &_o gratia_fw-la c._n 8._o and_o tom_n 2._o ep_n 28._o he_o say_v item_n quisquis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la vivificabuntur_fw-la etiam_fw-la parvuli_fw-la qui_fw-la sine_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la ejus_fw-la participatione_fw-la de_fw-la 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yea_o as_o you_o may_v perceive_v out_o of_o perkins_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v although_o ambrose_n and_o augustine_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la contra_fw-la donatistas_n c._n 22_o yield_v that_o either_o martyrdom_n or_o the_o desire_n of_o baptism_n may_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o baptism_n and_o some_o of_o the_o schoolman_n biel_n cajetan_n gerson_n do_v allow_v the_o desire_n and_o prayer_n of_o parent_n for_o child_n in_o the_o womb_n in_o stead_n of_o baptism_n yet_o we_o find_v no_o remedy_n allow_v by_o they_o but_o actual_a baptism_n for_o child_n bear_v into_o the_o world_n so_o strict_o do_v augustine_n and_o the_o ancient_n urge_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n for_o infant_n bear_v 3._o you_o may_v consider_v that_o augustine_n hold_v a_o like_a necessity_n of_o infant_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n from_o the_o word_n john_n 6.53_o as_o be_v plain_o express_v by_o he_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-la peccat_fw-la merit_n &_o remis_fw-la c._n 20._o 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their_o baptism_n basil_n epiphan_n anaceph_n p._n 408._o e_o dit_fw-mi lat._n basil_n epiphanius_n show_v we_o in_o the_o fore_n quote_v place_n that_o they_o affirm_v that_o for_o a_o man_n to_o stray_v in_o some_o great_a sin_n be_v nothing_o god_n require_v nothing_o but_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v of_o their_o faith_n augustine_n in_o his_o four_o book_n against_o the_o donatist_n complain_v and_o quote_v cyprian_a as_o condole_v the_o same_o that_o many_o cord_n in_o melius_fw-la non_fw-la mutato_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o many_o be_v not_o change_v in_o heart_n that_o renounce_v the_o world_n in_o word_n not_o in_o deed_n be_v baptize_v and_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o a_o error_n of_o some_o in_o those_o time_n errant_a qui_fw-la pâ—aeter_fw-la delectum_fw-la omnes_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la admittunt_fw-la they_o err_v say_v augustine_n that_o admit_v all_o to_o baptism_n without_o any_o choice_n or_o difference_n and_o one_o of_o the_o late_a anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o mark_n or_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v that_o any_o man_n upon_o confession_n of_o sin_n though_o he_o manifest_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v thus_o of_o fault_n in_o discipline_n 4_o by_o anabaptism_n have_v be_v occasion_v many_o unnecessary_a dispute_n 1_o whether_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o baptize_v signify_v to_o dip_v to_o rantize_n or_o to_o sprinkle_v whereas_o they_o baptize_v in_o old_a time_n some_o in_o their_o bed_n afore_o bed_n see_v afore_o or_o couch_n clinidia_n couch_n clinidia_n therefore_o dip_v not_o they_o the_o baptism_n of_o table_n mar._n 7.4_o here_o the_o word_n can_v signify_v dip_v the_o israelite_n be_v say_v to_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o cloud_n and_o the_o red_a sea_n but_o they_o be_v but_o sprinkle_v in_o the_o cloud_n and_o not_o dip_v in_o the_o sea_n 2_o whether_o those_o baptize_v by_o man_n erroneous_a in_o judgement_n aught_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v aug._n against_o the_o donatist_n 3_o whether_o there_o be_v original_a sin_n in_o infant_n 4_o whether_o they_o have_v faith_n 5_o how_o long_o they_o must_v stay_v ere_o they_o be_v baptize_v occasion_n baptize_v of_o these_o 3_o last_o we_o hear_v afore_o several_o upon_o other_o occasion_n whether_o till_o three_o year_n old_a or_o under_o or_o till_o four_o year_n old_a or_o over_o or_o how_o long_o whether_o till_o as_o old_a as_o adeodaâ—us_n who_o be_v 15_o at_o his_o baptism_n as_o some_o will_v or_o till_o they_o be_v 30_o year_n old_a which_o be_v the_o age_n of_o christ_n as_o some_o thought_n in_o nazianzens_n time_n thus_o i_o have_v give_v you_o a_o taste_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o m._n t._n his_o dispute_v in_o those_o four_o argument_n by_o a_o easy_a retort_v they_o if_o m._n t._n condemn_v these_o our_o argument_n retort_v of_o impertinency_n or_o invalidity_n he_o must_v of_o necessity_n also_o condemn_v his_o own_o and_o for_o my_o part_n if_o he_o will_v do_v so_o i_o be_o content_v that_o these_o four_o argument_n on_o both_o side_n shall_v go_v for_o blank_a and_o so_o to_o leave_v the_o dispute_n where_o we_o find_v it_o as_o no_o great_a matter_n be_v do_v on_o either_o side_n to_o argue_v for_o or_o against_o by_o produce_v the_o error_n and_o mistake_n of_o man_n which_o may_v be_v lay_v aside_o on_o either_o side_n and_o yet_o a_o truth_n be_v hold_v by_o either_o though_o i_o do_v not_o hereby_o mean_a to_o give_v away_o the_o question_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n and_o therefore_o we_o go_v on_o to_o give_v particular_a answer_n to_o m._n t._n his_o four_o argument_n aforesaid_a chap._n xvi_o to_o m._n t._n his_o first_o particular_a 19_o exercitat_fw-la §_o 19_o of_o surety_n in_o baptism_n urge_v in_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o six_o argument_n touch_v humane_a invention_n occasion_v by_o infant_n baptism_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o that_o surety_n be_v know_v to_o have_v be_v in_o tertullia_n time_n and_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o in_o augustine_n time_n as_o we_o have_v touch_v in_o divers_a quotation_n afore_o whence_o i_o infer_v only_o this_o that_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v hold_v in_o ancient_a time_n 2_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o abraham_n power_n and_o guardianship_n over_o his_o household_n all_o his_o male_a family_n have_v the_o first_o sign_n or_o seal_n as_o the_o family_n of_o cornelius_n and_o the_o gaoler_n have_v the_o governor_n believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v and_o usual_o those_o surety_n that_o bring_v child_n to_o baptism_n promise_v to_o see_v they_o bring_v up_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n or_o to_o that_o effect_n whence_o i_o infer_v though_o i_o be_o not_o in_o the_o least_o for_o surety_n only_o i_o will_v have_v m._n t._n speak_v just_o of_o thing_n as_o they_o be_v that_o the_o sport_v of_o profession_n of_o faith_n which_o m._n t._n here_o abject_n be_v rather_o in_o the_o surety_n that_o perform_v not_o that_o they_o promise_v then_o in_o thing_n itself_o to_o m._n t._n his_o second_o particular_a thence_o exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la of_o episcopal_a confirmation_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o we_o have_v already_o declare_v much_o of_o the_o patriarch_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o christ_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o the_o apostle_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o church_n imposition_n of_o hand_n since_o the_o apostle_n upon_o little_a one_o and_o usual_o after_o the_o first_o seal_n so_o that_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o human-invention_n in_o imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o baptize_v person_n as_o there_o be_v arrogancy_n in_o the_o bishop_n to_o assume_v this_o peculiarly_a to_o themselves_o to_o m._n t._n his_o three_o particular_a there_o that_o the_o reform_a union_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la by_o examination_n confession_n and_o subscription_n of_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n