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A69915	A plea for the Non-Conformists giving the true state of the dissenters case, and how far the Conformists separation from the Church of Rome, for their Popish superstitions and traditions introduced into the service of God, justifies the Non-Conformists separation from them for the same : in a letter to Dr. Benjamin Calamy, upon his sermon, called, Scrupulous conscience, inviting hereto : to which is added, A parallel scheme of the pagan, papal and Christian rites and ceremonies : with a narrative of the sufferings underwent for writing, printing and publishing hereof / by Thomas De Laune.	De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685.; Danson, Thomas, d. 1694.; De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685. Eikōn tou thēriou.; De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685. Narrative of the sufferings of Thomas Delaune.	1684 (1684)	Wing D893; Wing D891; Wing D892; ESTC R12757	93,215	122

give a fuller and clearer demonstration of our not symbolizing with Antiquity in all our Rites and Ceremonies FIRST Because so many of them are Novel and so many disown'd by Antiquity And so much which has been really from Antiquity has been disowned by us and blotted out of the Liturgy First That most of them are novel or disown'd by Antiquity We shall begin with those three principal Cemonies about which there was so much contention at the Savoy viz. Kneeling Surplice and the Cross in Baptism 1. That of Kneeling at the Altar or at the Sacrament of the Supper is put amongst the rest of the Ancient Ceremonies before any such thing as Popery was in the World which is Novel and but of yesterday never known before Transubstantiation nor with us Protestants received till Edward the Sixth's second Common-Prayer for in the first it was not Peter Martyr saith Propter Transubstantiationem realem presentiam invecta est in Ecclesiam That to maintain Transubstantiation and real Presence it was brought into the Church We are told in the Decretal that Pope Honorius Anno 1214. ordained Kneeling at the Sacrament And his Predecessor Innocent the 3d Transubstantiation It is said That in Tertullian and Chrysostom's time they were said to stand at the Altar when they partook of the Supper Socrates saith They took it in a Table Gesture eating it at their Love-Feasts And Paraeus asserts the same Hereupon the Protestant Reconciler tells us To restrain this kneeling posture at the receipt of the Sacrament out of due Reverence to Antiquity when no such posture was used by Antiquity I fear cannot be well excused from Falshood or from imposing on the People Secondly As to the Surplice the Fathers used it not tho it is clear the Pagans did from whom the Papists had it and we from them Salmasius as well as Petavius his Adversary do own that in the Primitive Times the Presbyters did not wear any distinct Habit from the People Caelestius Reproves the French Bishops who began it as a Novelty which tended to Superstition and made way to Mockery and Deceiving of the faithful The Surplice was brought into the Church by Pope Adrian Anno 796. Dr. Stillingfleet tells us That as for the Surplice in Parish Churches it is not of that consequence as to bear a dispute one way or other Unreas of Separation p 38. AS to the Sign of the Cross in Baptism upon the Forehead only we read of no such Rite amongst the Antients though the 30th Canon of the Church tells It is an honourable Badge and a lawful Ceremony by which the Child is dedicated to the service of Christ and which Rite was held in the Primitive Church both Greeks and Latines with one consent and great applause It is true the Antients after Baptisin did sign the baptized with a Cross upon his head and breast and anointed him with Chrysm as a distinct Order from Baptism but no such Signing in the act of Baptism as part of that Ordinance In Edward the sixth's time the Reformers did as the first Service-book makes mention sign the Elements three times with the Sign of the Cross and also the Child upon the Forehead and Breast when the Godfathers named his Name and afterwards in Confirmation again in the breast and forehead but all this is laid aside and a new thing taken up which is neither to be found in Antiquity nor in the first Pattern of our Reformers As to the order and office of Confirmation in the Rubrick and Liturgy it is another thing than the Antients used That was to be done with Chrysm by the hands of a Bishop with two Crosses one on the Breast the other on the Forehead immediately after Baptism was administred and as a distinct Ordinance from it but this is to be performed by the hands of a Bishop without any Chrysm or Consignation when they come to years of discretion And as there doth not appear any Warranty from Antiquity for this Confirmation so neither is there any direction in Scripture for it as Archb. Cranmore doth fully acknowledge whereof we have an account from Dr. Burnet out of a Manuscript written with the Bishops own hand by way of Question and Answer as he found it in Cotton's Library Cleop. E. 5. Quest Whether Confirmation be instituted by Christ Answ There is no place in Scripture that declareth this Sacrament to be instituted by Christ 1. Because the places alledged for the same be no Institutions but Acts and Deeds of the Apostles 2. Because those Acts were done by a special gift given to the Apostles for the Confirmation of Gods Word at that time 3. Because the same especial Gift doth not now remain with the Successors of the Apostlest Quest. What is the external Sign Answ The Church useth Chrysma but the Scripture maketh no mention thereof As for the Office of Baptizing of Infants as enjoyn'd in the Liturgy for Regeneration upon the Deed done and to be performed by Goslips who are to profess Faith and Repentance in the Infants name and stead is generally sc●upled and disowned by the Dissenters as savouring too much of Popery though the greatest part of them do baptize their Infants And as for the Antiquity of the practice if any credit may be given to many learned Paedobaptists it will not appear whereof take these following Instances The learned Dr. Taylor tells us in his Disswasive against Popery That there is a Tradition to baptize Infants relies but upon two Witnesses Origen and Austin and the latter having received it from the former it relies wholly upon a single testimony which is but a pitiful Argument to prove a Tradition Apostolical He is the first that spoke it but Tertullian that was before him seems to speak against it which he would not have done if it had been a Tradition Apostolical And that it was not so saith the Bishop it is but too certain if there be any truth in the words of Ludovicus Vives saying that anciently none were baptiz'd but persons of riper years He says thus in his Com. on August l. 1. c. 27. whose words are as followeth viz. None were baptized of old but those who were of Age who did not only understand what the Mystery of the Water meant but desired the same the perfect Image whereof saith he we have yet in our Infant Baptism for it is asked of the Infant Wilt thou be baptized for whom the Sureties answer I will The Doctor adds That the Parents of Austin Jerom Amhrose although Christians did not baptize their Children till they were 30 years of Age and that it will be very considerable in the Example and of great Efficacy for the destroying the supposed necessity of derivation of Infants Baptism from the Apostles Hugo Grotius in Annot on Mat. 19. 14. saith It was no small Evidence that Baptism of Infants many 100 years was not

ordinary in the Greek Church because not only Constantine the Great the Son of Helena a zealous Christian but also Gregory Nazianzen who was the Son of a Christian Bishop and brought up long by him was not baptized till he came to years as is saith he related in his Life Daille the learned French-man tell us That in ancient times they often deferred the Baptism of Infants as appeareth saith he by the History of Constantine Theodos●us Valentinian Gratian and in St. Ambrose and also by the Orations of Gregory Nazianzen and St. Basil on this subject And some of the Fathers have been of opinion that it is ●it it should be deferr'd But whence is it saith he that the very mentioning hereof is scarce to be endured at this day Vse of the Fathers l. 2. p. 149. Dr. Field saith That very many that were born of Christian Parents besides those that were converted from Paganism put off their Baptism for a long time insomuch that many were made Bishops before they were baptized On the Church p. 729. Mr. Baxter a great Asserter and Defender of Infant-Baptism doth ingenuously own after his long search into Antiquity thus much I will confess that the words of Tertullian and Nazianzen shew that it was long before all were agreed of the very time or of the necessity of baptizing of Infants before any use of Reason in case they were like to live to Maturity More Proofs p. 279. As for Baptizing Infants with Sureties Fidejussors or Gossips as the Liturgy enjoyns and such an Essential part of the Ordinance owning that the baptized Persons are required to repent and believe and that Infants are capable 〈◊〉 do neither but that they do both by their Sureties appears also if the learned are to be credited to be no less a Novelty as the Centurists declare Magd. Cent. 4. cap. 6 p. 419. De susceptoribus certi nihil Invenias that is you can find nothing certain of Godfathers in that Age. But that it came in the 5th Century Cen. 5. c. 4. p. 656. Adhibitos interdum susceptores sou Patrinos ex Autoribus hujus temporis liquet that is the Authors of the 5th Century mention Sureties or Godfathers Upon which Dr. Taylor saith I know God might if he would have appointed Godfathers to give Answer in the behalf of Children and to be Fidejussors for them but we cannot find any authority or ground that he hath and if he had that it is to be supposed he would have given them Commission to have transacted the solemnity with better Cir●umstances and have given Answers with more Truth for the Question is ask'd of Believing in the present and if the Godfather answers in the Name of the Child I DO BELIEVE it is Notorious they speak false and ridiculous for the Infant is not capable of Believing and if he were he were also capable of dissenting and how then do they know his mind And thefore saith he Tertullian and Nazianzen gave advice that the baptizing of Infants should be deferr'd till they could give an account of their own Faith Walafridus Strabo who lived about the year 840. saith De rebus eccl c. 26. That in the first times the grace of Baptism was wont to be given to them only who were come to that Integrity of mind and body that they could know and understand what profit was to be gotten by Baptism what was to be confessed and believed what lastly was to be observed by them that are new-born in Christ and confirms it by Austin's own Confession of himself continuing a Catechumen long before he was baptized But afterwards saith he Christians understanding Original Sin and least their Children should perish without any means of Grace had them he saith baptized by the decree of the Council of Africa and then adds how Godfathers and Godmothers were invented Johannis Bohemius lib. 2. de Gent. Moribus saith It was in times past the Custom to administer Baptism only to those that were instructed in the Faith and seven times in the week before Easter and Penticost catechiz'd but afterwards when it was thought and adjudged needful to eternal Life to be baptized it was ordained that New-born Children should be baptized and Godfathers were appointed who should make Confession and Renounce the Devil on their behalf As for the Liturgy it is another thing than can be found among the Antients Is it not clear that in the 3d Century they had no Directory or Book to pray by as Tertullian in his Apology mentions We look up to Heaven with our hands stretched forth as being innocent and bear-headed as not ashamed to make our Prayers sine Monitore without a Directory as coming from the free motion of our own hearts Platina tells us that in Celestine's time there was no other parts of the Mass but the Reading of the Epistles and ●ospels which was Anno 435. Platina in Celest 1. Justin Martyr in the second Century fully sheweth the manner of Christian Service in his time The Ancient Christians saith he had their Meetings on the Sunday they began with Prayers for the Church especially for the Inlightend which were baptized then the Writings of the Prophets and Apostles are read as time permits then a Sermon unto the People and exhorts them all unto the Imitation of the best things then all do rise up and pour forth their prayers again when their prayers are ended Bread and Wine mixed with Water are brought forth which being taken he who hath the Charge goeth before the People with an earnest voice in praising God and thanksgiving and the People do answer with a loud voice Amen Then the Deacons divide the holy Signs unto them all which are present and carry the same unto the absent this saith he we call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 thanksgiving whereof none may partake unless he believe the true Doctrine and be washed in the laver unto Regeneration and Remission of sins and live so as Christ hath directed After this is a gathering of Alms. And p. 7. He who instructed the People prayed according to his ability Here was no Liturgy or Common Prayers mentioned Walafrid Strabo who wrote in the 9th Century saith in his Book de Rebus Ecclesiae All which is done now with a multitude of Prayers Lessons Songs and Cons●●rations which the Apostles and those who next followed them did with prayers and remembrance of the Lords sufferings even as he commanded Socrates saith That among all the Christians in that Age scarce two were to be found that used the same words in Prayer Pope Gregory the first made a new form of Service which they call the Mass and did add many Ceremonies that were not in use before So that Platina saith The whole Institution of the Mass was Invented by him we in England had ours from Gregory who by his Minister Austin first founded the Church and introduced most