in_o the_o first_o age_n st._n ambrose_n st._n jerom_n and_o st._n austin_n be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n and_o yet_o not_o baptize_v until_o tâ—eful_a age_n of_o a_o man_n and_o more_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptise_v any_o child_n be_v not_o at_o all_o report_v by_o any_o credible_a tradition_n the_o other_o be_v mr._n bazter_n baxter_n mr._n baxter_n a_o evidence_n that_o in_o this_o case_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v who_o be_v please_v to_o tell_v we_o in_o a_o very_a late_a piece_n viz._n his_o principle_n of_o love_n p_o 7._o that_o he_o know_v that_o in_o the_o day_n of_o tertullian_n nazienzen_n and_o austin_n man_n have_v liberty_n to_o be_v baptize_v or_o to_o bring_v their_o child_n when_o and_o at_o what_o age_n they_o please_v and_o that_o none_o be_v force_v to_o go_v against_o their_o conscience_n therein_o and_o that_o he_o know_v not_o that_o our_o rule_n or_o religion_n be_v change_v or_o that_o we_o be_v grow_v any_o wise_a or_o better_a than_o they_o 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custom_n of_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 231_o apamen_n bishop_n of_o apamen_n the_o bishop_n of_o apamen_n and_o zoroaras_n who_o do_v defend_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v the_o only_a baptism_n pag._n 231._o adrianus_n adrianus_n adrianus_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n in_o the_o 7._o century_n who_o do_v stout_o defend_v believer_n baptism_n not_o permit_v a_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o diocese_n page_n 231._o hinemar_n hinemar_n hinemarus_fw-la bishop_n of_o laudum_fw-la refuse_v infant_n baptize_v only_a believer_n 235._o the_o egyptian_a divine_n divine_n egyptian_a divine_n in_o the_o seven_o century_n teach_v faâ—th_n before_o baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o romish_a baptism_n p._n 232._o carolus_n carolus_n carolus_n bishop_n of_o maylant_a teach_v that_o only_a such_o as_o be_v instruct_v and_o confess_v faith_n and_o manifest_v a_o holy_a life_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n roor_n jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n own_v only_o that_o 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the_o same_o
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tell_v i_o how_o impudent_a it_o be_v in_o i_o to_o trouble_v we_o with_o this_o silly_a ridiculous_a story_n he_o must_v therefore_o know_v that_o he_o and_o mr._n marshal_n both_o do_v miss_v the_o case_n the_o stress_n of_o the_o decree_n lie_v not_o about_o the_o parent_n but_o for_o the_o exclusion_n of_o all_o child_n whether_o of_o pagan_a or_o christian_a parent_n because_o confession_n and_o free_a choice_n be_v require_v in_o that_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o say_v grotius_n from_o the_o glosser_n that_o a_o infant_n can_v be_v baptize_v because_o it_o have_v no_o power_n to_o confess_v or_o choose_v the_o divine_a baptism_n and_o which_o speak_v reason_n say_v doctor_n tailor_n and_o intimate_v a_o practice_n which_o be_v absolute_o universal_a in_o the_o church_n of_o interrogate_a the_o catechuman_n concern_v the_o article_n of_o their_o creed_n which_o be_v one_o argument_n say_v he_o that_o either_o they_o do_v not_o admit_v infant_n to_o baptism_n or_o that_o they_o 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own_v in_o this_o age_n and_o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o yet_o receive_v as_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n whilst_o so_o many_o renown_a worthy_n of_o this_o age_n the_o parent_n of_o these_o great_a man_n shall_v neglect_v to_o baptise_v they_o in_o their_o infancy_n for_o the_o argument_n lie_v there_o and_o not_o as_o mr._n will_v so_o weak_o reason_n from_o some_o misapprehension_n in_o the_o party_n themselves_o as_o in_o p._n 17._o as_o constant_n the_o son_n of_o christian_n parent_n as_o but_o as_o to_o the_o exception_n themselves_o first_o as_o to_o constantin_n if_o he_o and_o mr._n marshal_n doubt_v whether_o constantin_n have_v godly_a parent_n at_o his_o birth_n as_o good_a historian_n as_o they_o do_v not_o as_o grotius_n and_o dailly_n dailly_n dailly_n witness_v to_o helana_n christianity_n before_o his_o birth_n as_o p._n 60._o &_o 62._o and_o the_o magdeburg_n magd._n magd._n to_o that_o of_o his_o father_n cent._n 4._o p._n 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confirmation_n thereof_o doctor_n hall_n hall_n dr._n hall_n as_o mr._n tomb_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o honour_n to_o his_o marry_a clergy_n 2_o book_n 8._o sect._n say_v that_o nazienzen_n be_v beget_v of_o his_o father_n be_v a_o bishop_n and_o to_o prove_v it_o bring_v his_o father_n word_n speak_v to_o he_o to_o persuade_v he_o to_o help_v he_o in_o his_o charge_n which_o he_o translate_v out_o of_o the_o greek_a viz._n the_o year_n of_o thy_o age_n be_v not_o so_o many_o as_o of_o my_o priesthood_n confirm_v what_o be_v say_v above_o out_o of_o the_o magdeburg_n as_o for_o chrysostome_n he_o say_v mr._n marshal_n say_v as_o chrisost_n christian_n parent_n as_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v christian_n at_o his_o birth_n but_o as_o for_o that_o we_o will_v let_v it_o rest_v upon_o grotius_n testimony_n grotius_n grotius_n as_o you_o have_v it_o p._n 61._o who_o none_o can_v think_v a_o partial_a author_n in_o this_o case_n be_v so_o firm_o for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o without_o dispute_n so_o well_o read_v in_o antiquity_n and_o as_o for_o austin_n i_o will_v recommend_v you_o to_o two_o instance_n to_o make_v it_o good_a as_o austin_n christian_n parent_n as_o and_o clear_a mr._n will_v doubt_n thâ—_n one_o be_v doctor_n tayler_n tailor_n dr._n tailor_n not_o in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophecy_n which_o be_v except_v against_o by_o mr._n will_n but_o how_o warrentable_o we_o shall_v hereafter_o examine_v but_o in_o one_o of_o his_o last_o piece_n viz._n in_o his_o deswasive_a against_o popery_n print_v 1667._o where_o you_o have_v he_o in_o sect._n 3._o p._n 117._o thus_o express_v himself_o viz._n that_o there_o be_v no_o pretence_n of_o tradition_n that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n do_v baptise_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o christian_a parent_n it_o be_v more_o certain_a that_o thâ—y_o do_v not_o do_v it_o then_o that_o they_o do_v
congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n their_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o our_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o matth._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n and_o truth_n that_o antichrist_n attribute_n the_o regeneration_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unto_o the_o dead_a outward_a work_n of_o baptise_v child_n into_o that_o faith_n and_o teach_v that_o thereby_o baptism_n and_o regeneration_n must_v be_v have_v ground_v therein_o all_o his_o christianity_n which_o be_v against_o the_o holy_a spirit_n what_o he_o make_v their_o confession_n to_o be_v p._n 45_o etc._n etc._n god_n have_v ordain_v certain_a sacrament_n to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o word_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o unite_v we_o unto_o and_o to_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o his_o benefit_n and_o that_o there_o be_v only_o two_o of_o they_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n water_n be_v the_o visible_a and_o external_a sign_n which_o represent_v unto_o we_o that_o which_o be_v within_o viz._n renovation_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o mortification_n of_o our_o member_n in_o jesus_n christ_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o mat._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n 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and_o mortification_n of_o their_o member_n and_o can_v it_o be_v true_o say_v it_o be_v so_o to_o a_o infant_n that_o be_v not_o capable_a to_o put_v forth_o any_o act_n of_o faith_n repentance_n or_o mortification_n or_o discern_v any_o the_o least_o sign_n in_o the_o water_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n signify_v thereby_o four_o it_o 4._o nor_o to_o make_v confession_n of_o faith_n before_o it_o have_v they_o indeed_o a_o harmony_n with_o the_o waldenses_n in_o what_o further_o they_o confess_v concern_v this_o ordinance_n viz._n that_o by_o it_o tâ—ey_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o holy_a congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n there_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n but_o how_o be_v the_o infant_n capable_a with_o the_o waldensian_a christians_n not_o pagan_a convert_n to_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o so_o to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o congregation_n thereby_o five_o do_v paedobaptist_n indeed_o believe_v with_o they_o that_o humane_a tradition_n and_o invention_n why_o 5._o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o humane_a tradition_n and_o why_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v antichristian_a â—bâ—mâ—na_n lion_z and_o vain_a worship_n and_o that_o that_o worship_n be_v vain_a and_o traditional_a when_o person_n be_v enjoin_v to_o it_o without_o faith_n and_o truth_n why_o then_o be_v infant_n baptize_v by_o they_o that_o have_v no_o faith_n or_o knowledge_n of_o truth_n and_o for_o which_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n or_o example_n in_o god_n word_n and_o by_o themselves_o own_v to_o be_v a_o unwriten_v tradition_n six_o do_v they_o believe_v it_o 6._o antichrist_n groundsall_a religion_n in_o it_o that_o antichrist_n ground_n all_o christianity_n and_o religion_n in_o the_o baptism_n of_o childreâ—_n attribute_v regeneration_n to_o that_o outward_a work_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a spirit_n why_o then_o do_v they_o baptise_v child_n which_o as_o acknowledge_v be_v the_o basis_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o false_a church_n and_o so_o contrary_a to_o the_o spirit_n and_o for_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n and_o anti_n christian_n counsel_n to_o warrant_v it_o whereby_o you_o see_v that_o infant_n be_v manifest_o exclude_v baptismal_a in_o these_o six_o particular_n in_o these_o confessor_n and_o that_o paedobaptist_n can_v assert_v the_o same_o without_o evident_a contradiction_n to_o themselves_o confession_n objection_n to_o the_o contrary_a confession_n but_o in_o the_o next_o place_n if_o these_o confession_n be_v good_a as_o you_o say_v against_o infant_n baptism_n yet_o what_o do_v you_o say_v to_o those_o contrary_a confession_n that_o own_o the_o baptise_v of_o â—_z as_o master_n will_n have_v give_v they_o from_o perin_n p._n 62_o 63_o 65._o answer_n to_o which_o i_o say_v it_o be_v to_o i_o matter_n of_o the_o great_a admiration_n that_o i_o have_v with_o that_o exactness_n especial_o in_o the_o last_o edition_n give_v you_o such_o a_o particular_a account_n of_o all_o tâ—ose_a confession_n word_n for_o word_n both_o of_o that_o of_o bohemia_n and_o that_o of_o provence_n and_o prove_v to_o you_o by_o such_o ample_a dâ—moastration_n the_o follow_a particular_n viz._n first_o that_o none_o of_o they_o be_v extant_a till_o the_o sixteenth_o century_n whereas_o the_o other_o be_v upon_o record_n in_o the_o eleven_o or_o twelf_v century_n so_o many_o hundred_o year_n before_o second_o that_o that_o confession_n say_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o waldenses_n in_o bohemia_n to_o king_n ladislaus_n be_v not_o waldenses_n as_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o preambule_n thereof_o three_o have_v give_v a_o account_n how_o and_o by_o what_o mean_n and_o when_o those_o of_o provence_n come_v to_o introduce_v that_o custom_n so_o contrary_a to_o what_o their_o ancient_a barbe_n have_v instruct_v they_o in_o how_o sad_o they_o have_v â—eclined_v even_o to_o go_v to_o mass_n and_o how_o contradictious_a that_o practice_n be_v to_o other_o part_n of_o the_o confession_n into_o which_o it_o be_v foist_v and_o that_o these_o waldenses_n of_o provence_n that_o make_v these_o confession_n be_v inconsiderable_a to_o the_o body_n of_o that_o people_n that_o be_v disperse_v into_o so_o many_o part_n of_o the_o world_n that_o hold_v the_o contrary_n yet_o mr._n will_n shall_v take_v so_o little_a notice_n of_o what_o i_o have_v say_v and_o mr._n blindman_n that_o have_v write_v since_o who_o have_v also_o transcribe_v the_o say_a contrary_a confession_n without_o the_o least_o notice_n to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v in_o answer_n thereto_o which_o i_o think_v be_v such_o a_o abuse_n as_o be_v never_o offer_v by_o any_o pretend_v to_o answer_v book_n and_o therefore_o i_o must_v refer_v they_o and_o all_o other_o that_o desire_v satisfaction_n therein_o to_o what_o i_o have_v so_o full_o and_o as_o i_o humble_o conceive_v unanswerable_o speak_v to_o each_o confession_n the_o second_o demonstration_n
three_o in_o flanders_n where_o it_o be_v also_o confirm_v and_o seal_v d_o with_o much_o blood_n pag._n 267_o to_o 269._o holland_n holland_n four_o in_o holland_n or_o low_a country_n wâ—ere_v it_o be_v also_o witness_v too_o with_o much_o blood_n and_o martyrdom_n p._n 269_o to_o 271._o five_o in_o bohemia_n bohemia_n bohemia_n where_o it_o be_v eminent_o confirmeâ—_n also_o p._n 271_o to_o 273._o six_o in_o hungaria_n hungaria_n hungaria_n in_o like_a manner_n p._n 273_o to_o 274._o seven_o in_o transylvania_n transylv_n transylv_n evidence_v also_o as_o p._n 274._o eight_o in_o poland_n poland_n poland_n a_o confirmation_n thereof_o pag_n 274._o in_o england_n it_o have_v also_o be_v confirm_v through_o many_o age_n by_o christian_n under_o several_a denomination_n viz._n by_o waldenses_n lollard_n wickliffian_n and_o anabaâ—tists_n through_o all_o the_o king_n reign_v from_o the_o conquest_n to_o this_o very_a day_n as_o at_o large_a you_o have_v it_o from_o p._n 275_o to_o 310._o to_o all_o which_o he_o say_v thus_o much_o by_o way_n of_o concâ—ssion_n viz._n that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v indeed_o spread_v not_o only_o by_o persecution_n but_o by_o their_o own_o volontary_a choice_n before_o into_o all_o these_o râ—gions_n be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o the_o opposer_n of_o infant_n baptism_n in_o the_o upper_a and_o lower_v germany_n be_v the_o remain_v and_o offspring_n of_o those_o the_o waldenses_n be_v a_o conceit_n foreign_a to_o all_o history_n and_o have_v no_o foundation_n in_o reason_n or_o truth_n and_o that_o his_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la or_o say_v so_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o we_o to_o believe_v it_o he_o affirm_v it_o only_o from_o conjecture_n and_o that_o arise_v also_o from_o his_o will_n according_a to_o that_o say_n quod_fw-la volumus_fw-la facile_fw-la credimus_fw-la what_o we_o will_v have_v we_o easy_o believe_v to_o which_o i_o say_v answer_v that_o if_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o this_o be_v their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_v by_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n the_o practice_n of_o their_o ancient_a and_o honourable_a barbe_n and_o worthy_n by_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n emperor_n and_o counsel_n by_o the_o print_v they_o have_v leave_v thereof_o in_o the_o several_a country_n it_o be_v confess_v they_o be_v drive_v into_o and_o all_o this_o by_o ancient_a recoras_n and_o authentic_a testimony_n which_o i_o presume_v i_o have_v as_o yet_o undeniable_o do_v then_o i_o rest_v confident_a that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n will_v acquit_v i_o of_o this_o slander_n of_o a_o ipsa_fw-la dixit_fw-la and_o that_o it_o be_v only_o my_o will_n and_o pleasure_n to_o say_v all_o this_o of_o my_o own_o head_n and_o fancy_n without_o proof_n the_o german_a baptist_n do_v in_o their_o martyrology_n prove_v their_o dissent_n from_o the_o waldenses_n through_o out_o the_o century_n perin_n tell_v we_o that_o lollard_n be_v a_o waldensian_a barb_n and_o that_o jo_n wickliff_n assert_v not_o other_o but_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o waldenses_n be_v instruct_v therâ—â—n_o by_o the_o lollaras_fw-mi this_o further_a testimony_n â—â—_o have_v meet_v with_o in_o the_o dutch_a book_n of_o martyr_n which_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o as_o full_a measure_n and_o heap_v up_o as_o mr._n will_v word_n it_o caesarius_n caesarius_n first_o they_o tell_v we_o from_o jacob_n merningus_n p._n 733._o cent._n 13._o ch_n 5._o out_o of_o caeâ—arius_n that_o the_o waldenses_n and_o albigenses_n have_v reject_v infant_n baptism_n say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o no_o force_n nor_o profitable_a to_o any_o before_o they_o be_v teach_v and_o do_v believe_v but_o concern_v that_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n they_o have_v a_o very_a high_a value_n and_o esteem_v dutch_a martyr_n pag._n 307._o etc._n dubravius_n etc._n etc._n second_o that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v call_v anabaptist_n long_o before_o john_n hus_n they_o quote_v the_o testimony_n of_o several_a viz._n dubravius_n mâ—chovius_n cromerus_n mr._n glaucus_n from_o merningus_n p._n 733._o rainâ—riuâ—_n rainâ—riuâ—_n tâ—iâ—dly_o that_o the_o say_v merningus_n pag._n 618_o 619_o 629._o make_v it_o good_a from_o rainerius_n the_o monk_n inquisitor_n that_o write_v his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n in_o the_o 12._o century_n that_o the_o waldenses_n do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o produce_v divers_a of_o rainerius_n his_o argument_n against_o they_o for_o the_o same_o and_o which_o he_o quote_v from_o the_o bib._n patrum_fw-la tom._n 13._o p._n 300._o though_o mr._n will_n be_v please_v to_o tell_v we_o p._n 97._o that_o rainerius_n say_v never_o a_o word_n about_o their_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n four_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o balthasar_n lydias_n lydias_n balthazar_z lydias_n in_o his_o treat_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o waldenses_n p._n 86._o col._n 1._o tell_v we_o that_o they_o reprove_v many_o thing_n in_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n and_o say_v that_o the_o baptise_n of_o child_n be_v not_o profitable_a to_o they_o dutch_a martyr_n p._n 309._o five_o that_o abraham_n mellinus_fw-la mellinus_fw-la ab._n mellinus_fw-la in_o his_o history_n of_o martyr_n p._n 447._o col._n 1._o do_v tell_v we_o that_o the_o waldenses_n no_o cast_n far_o from_o they_o all_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o among_o they_o do_v whole_o reject_v that_o of_o infante_n baptism_n as_o unprofitable_a and_o unnecessary_a dutch_a martyr_n p._n 320._o and_o therefore_o the_o whole_a of_o this_o story_n concern_v this_o ancient_a honourable_a people_n the_o walaense_n be_v submit_v to_o judgement_n and_o whether_o i_o have_v not_o good_a cause_n to_o conclude_v it_o with_o the_o return_n of_o mr._n will_v his_o own_o word_n upon_o himself_o which_o he_o speak_v to_o i_o upon_o this_o very_a occasion_n p._n 44._o viz._n and_o be_v it_o not_o a_o miserable_a cause_n indeed_o hâ—mself_n mr._n will_v his_o word_n return_v upon_o hâ—mself_n who_o 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