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A33523 A just vindication of the covenant and church-estate of children of church-members as also of their right unto bastisme : wherein such things as have been brought by divers to the contrary, especially by Ioh. Spilsbury, A.R. Ch. Blackwood, and H. Den are revised and answered : hereunto is annexed a refutation of a certain pamphlet styled The plain and wel-grounded treatise touching baptism / by Thomas Cobbet. Cobbet, Thomas, 1608-1685. 1648 (1648) Wing C4778; ESTC R25309 266,318 321

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and_o will_v not_o have_v their_o susceptor_n run_v hazard_n by_o become_a surety_n for_o they_o so_o that_o this_o be_v but_o a_o fallacious_a way_n of_o conclude_v à_fw-la dicto_fw-la secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la ad_fw-la dictum_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la something_o more_o we_o shall_v add_v of_o justin_n occasional_o afterward_o sect_n ii_o rabanus_n be_v the_o next_o witness_n to_o propos_fw-fr 3._o which_o say_v the_o catechism_n which_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n must_v go_v before_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v anno_fw-la 840._o when_o none_o question_n the_o constant_a use_n of_o paedobaptism_n and_o so_o the_o intent_n be_v not_o touch_v what_o be_v to_o go_v before_o their_o baptism_n but_o what_o be_v to_o precede_v the_o baptism_n of_o pagan_n or_o jew_n turn_v to_o the_o faith_n rabanus_n de_fw-fr institutione_n clericorum_fw-la have_v that_o passage_n of_o the_o four_o carthage_n council_n those_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v be_v to_o give_v in_o their_o 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their_o own_o witness_n name_n they_o be_v in_o such_o a_o hurry_n they_o bring_v in_o proof_n that_o the_o teacher_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a father_n right_o do_v so_o and_o so_o make_v the_o father_n and_o those_o teacher_n distinct_a as_o person_n of_o who_o the_o testimony_n be_v bring_v and_o as_o witness_n by_o who_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o proof_n the_o ancient_a father_n themselves_o be_v the_o witness_n of_o what_o be_v do_v by_o those_o teacher_n after_o they_o as_o hilary_n tertullian_n arnobius_n ambrose_n etc._n etc._n these_o may_v say_v what_o be_v in_o their_o time_n but_o can_v say_v what_o teacher_n after_o they_o will_v do_v or_o practice_v unless_o the_o author_n can_v by_o a_o spell_n play_v the_o witch_n of_o endor_n trick_n to_o fetch_v up_o old_a samuel_n in_o his_o likeness_n to_o speak_v after_o he_o be_v dead_a sect_n i._o but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o any_o of_o they_o say_v if_o we_o have_v not_o hear_v it_o before_o hilary_n hilary_n as_o for_o 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