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A26853 An accompt of all the proceedings of the commissioners of both persvvasions appointed by His Sacred Majesty, according to letters patent, for the review of the Book of common prayer, &c. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1661 (1661) Wing B1177; ESTC R34403 133,102 166

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way of contempt calling them Hopkins Psalms And though singing of Psalms be an Ordinance of God yet you call it one of our principal parts of Worship as if it were disclaimed by you And are so far from countenancing the use of conceived Prayer in the publick Worship of God though we never intended thereby the excluding of set Forms as that you seem to dislike the use of it even in the Pulpit and heartily desire a total restraint of it in the Church You will not allow the omission of the Benedicite nor a Psalm to be read instead of it nor so much as abate the reading of the Chapters out of the Old Testament and the Acts for the Epistles But rather then you will gratifie us therein you have found out a new Device that the Minister shall say for the Epistle you will not so much as leave out in the Collect for Christmas-day these words this day though at least it must be a great uncertainty and cannot be true stylo veteri novo In publick Baptism you are so far from giving a Liberty to the Parent to answer for his own Child which seems most reasonable as that you force him to the use of Sureties and cause them to answer in the name of the Infant that he doth believe and repent and forsake the Devil and all his works which doth much f●vour the Anabaptistical Opinion for the necessity of an actual profession of Faith and Repentance in order to Baptism You will not leave the Minister in the Visitation of the Sick to use his judgement or discretion in absolving the sick person or giving the Sacrament to him but enjoyn both of them though the person to his own judgement seem never so unfit neither do you allow the Minister to pronounce the Absolution in a Declarative and Conditional way but absolutely and inconditionately And even in one of your Concessions in which we suppose you intend to accommodate with us you rather widen then heal the breach for in your last Rubr. before the Catech. you would have the words thus altered That children being baptized have all things necessary for salvation and dying before they commit any actual sin be undoubtedly saved though they be not confirmed Which Assertion if understood of all Infants even of Heathen is certainly false and if onely of the Infants of Christians is doubtful and contrary to the judgement of many learned Protestants and will give little satisfaction to us or others some more we might name which for brevities sake we omit All which considered we altogether despair of that happy success which Thousands hope and wait for from this his Majesties Commission unless God shall incline your hearts for the Peace and Vnion of the Nation to a more considerable and satisfactory alteration of the Liturgie In which that we may the better prevail we here tender a Reply to your Answer both against our general and particular Exceptions of which we desire a serious perusal and candid interpretation We have divided both your Preface and Answer into several Sections that so you might more easily understand to which of the particulars both in the one and in the other our Reply doth refer THE PAPERS That passed between the COMMISSIONERS Appointed by his Majesty for the Alteration of the Common-Prayer c. THe strain of these Papers we fear is like to perswade many that your designe is not the same with ours Being assured that it is our Duty to do what we can to the peace and concord of Believers especially when we had the past and present Calamities of these Nations to urge us and his Majesties Commands and gratious Promises to encourage us we judged the fittest means to be by making known the hindrances of our Concord and without reviving the remembrance of those things that tend to exasperate to apply our selves with due submission to those that may contribute much to our recovery and without personal reflections to propose the Remedies which we knew would be most effectual and humbly and earnestly to petition you for your consent But in stead of consent or amicable Debates in order to the removal of our differences we have received from you a Paper abounding with sharp Accusations as if your work were to prove us bad and make us odious which as it is attempted upon mistake by unrighteous means so were it accomplished we know not how it will conduce to the Concord which ought to be our common end If we understand Christs Commission or the Kings and our duty as Christians or as Ministers our work now assigned us was not to search after and aggravate the faults of one another though of our own in season we are willing to hear but to review the Liturgie and agree upon such alterations diminutions and enlargements as are needful to our common unity and peace What is amiss in us we shall thankfully accept your charitable assistance to discover but we take not that for the Question which his Majesty called us to debate nor do our judgements or dispositions lead us to Recriminations nor to cast such impediments in the way of our desired accord And were it not that our Calling and our Masters work are concerned somewhat in our just Vindication we should not trouble you with so low so private and unnecessary a work but leave such Causes to the righteous Judge who will quickly impartially infallibly and finally decide them PREFACE BEfore we come to the Proposals it will be perhaps necessary to say a word or two to the Preface wherein they begin with a thankful acknowledgement of his Majesties most Princely condescention to which we shall onely say That we conceive the most real Expression of their thankfulness had been an hearty complyance with his Majesties earnest and passionate request for the use of the present Liturgie at least so much of it as they acknowledge by these Papers to be lawful how far they have in this expressed their thankfulness the world sees we need not say 1. AS we hope it is no matter of offence to acknowledge his Majesties gratious condescention so when his Majesty by his Declaration hath granted us some liberty as to the use of the Liturgie before the alteration and hath by his Commission engaged us in a Consultation for the alteration of it we conceive our Brethren nor the world to whose observation they appeal had no warrant to censure us as unthankful to his Majesty because of our present forbearance to use it or part of it before the intended alteration at least till they had heard us speak for our selves and render an account of the reasons of our forbearance and they had gone before us more exemplarily in their own obedience to his Majesties Declaration As to our own Consciences if we thought not the Common-Prayer-Book to be guilty of the general and particular faults which we have laid open to you we durst not have found