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A94733 An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1646 (1646) Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072 143,666 170

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be_v mean_v of_o the_o promise_n of_o save_a grace_n as_o if_o it_o be_v make_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o natural_a seed_n as_o for_o master_n marshal_n paraphrase_n which_o he_o call_v argument_n pag._n 129._o 130._o of_o his_o defence_n i_o think_v it_o to_o be_v most_o absurd_a in_o that_o it_o make_v the_o promise_n act_v 2._o 39_o when_o apply_v to_o the_o father_n to_o be_v mean_v of_o justification_n when_o to_o the_o child_n of_o outward_a administration_n nor_o so_o expound_v be_v the_o word_n true_a there_o be_v no_o such_o promise_n that_o rom._n 11._o 16._o etc._n etc._n prove_v not_o that_o there_o be_v the_o same_o church_n state_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v in_o the_o jew_n so_o as_o that_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n shall_v by_o virtue_n of_o natural_a generation_n be_v reckon_v as_o visible_a member_n forasmuch_o as_o now_o the_o church_n be_v not_o national_a as_o it_o be_v then_o nor_o gather_v as_o god_n do_v the_o jewish_a church_n by_o take_v the_o whole_a nation_n for_o his_o people_n in_o one_o day_n but_o now_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v gather_v by_o preach_v up_o and_o down_o some_o in_o one_o place_n and_o some_o in_o another_o in_o succession_n of_o time_n that_o 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o speak_v not_o of_o federall_a holiness_n but_o matrimonial_a yea_o if_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o live_n of_o two_o person_n together_o in_o disparity_n of_o religion_n be_v take_v from_o the_o virtue_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o one_o party_n not_o from_o the_o relation_n of_o husband_n and_o wife_n as_o mr_n marshal_n exposition_n make_v it_o the_o medium_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o live_n of_o a_o believe_a wife_n with_o a_o unbelieved_a husband_n will_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o live_n of_o a_o believe_a fornicatrix_n with_o a_o unbelieved_a fornicator_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o a_o syllogistical_a analysis_n of_o the_o apostle_n argument_n the_o major_a whereof_o be_v this_o according_a to_o mr_n marshal_n exposition_n that_o man_n and_o wo●an_n may_v lawful_o dwell_v together_o notwithstanding_o the_o unbelief_n of_o the_o one_o party_n whereof_o one_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o other_o for_o beget_v of_o a_o holy_a seed_n this_o be_v manifest_o the_o force_n of_o the_o apostle_n reason_n after_o his_o exposition_n nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o insert_v be_v husband_n and_o wife_n since_o the_o sanctification_n be_v not_o ascribe_v by_o he_o to_o the_o relation_n of_o husband_n and_o wife_n but_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o one_o party_n as_o the_o proper_a cause_n of_o it_o and_o by_o mr_n blake_n birth_n privilege_n pag._n 11._o holiness_n in_o the_o text_n be_v a_o fruit_n or_o result_v of_o faith_n in_o the_o parent_n now_o the_o assumption_n the_o unbelieved_a form_n catour_n be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o ●eleeving_a whore_n for_o the_o beget_n a_o holy_a seed_n master_n martial_n deny_v not_o but_o salke_v only_o tell_v i_o pag._n 163_o of_o his_o defence_n he_o can_v name_v divine_n who_o be_v no_o whit_n inferior_a to_o myself_o who_o conceive_v that_o a_o believer_n even_o then_o when_o he_o commit_v fornication_n with_o a_o infidel_n do_v so_o remove_v the_o bar_n in_o the_o unbelieved_a party_n as_o that_o the_o child_n be_v in_o the_o believe_a parent_n right_a to_o be_v reckon_v to_o belong_v to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o his_o sense_n to_o be_v sanctify_v and_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v for_o 〈◊〉_d causa_fw-la ponitur_fw-la effectus_fw-la if_o the_o quality_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o that_o sanctification_n the_o sanctification_n follow_v in_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o the_o conclusion_n than_o follow_v from_o mr_n marshal_n exposition_n that_o the_o believe_a fornicatrix_fw-la may_v still_o live_v after_o conversion_n with_o her_o unbelieved_a fornicator_n for_o they_o be_v still_o sanctify_v for_o the_o beget_n of_o a_o holy_a seed_n and_o the_o child_n so_o beget_v be_v federal_o holy_a it_o be_v god_n rule_n in_o this_o case_n if_o mr_n martial_n say_v true_a partus_fw-la sequitur_fw-la meliorem_fw-la partem_fw-la but_o this_o be_v so_o absurd_a a_o thing_n that_o i_o believe_v mr_n martial_n himself_o will_v when_o he_o understand_v it_o quit_v his_o chief_a hold_n and_o the_o judicious_a reader_n explode_v the_o exposition_n of_o 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o of_o federall_a holiness_n and_o for_o the_o three_o conclusion_n of_o mr_n martial_n he_o have_v not_o yet_o prove_v that_o the_o rite_n of_o baptism_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n to_o succeed_v into_o the_o room_n place_n and_o use_v of_o circumcision_n or_o that_o a_o command_n concern_v circumcision_n shall_v be_v a_o command_n concern_v baptism_n yea_o my_o exposition_n of_o colos_n 2._o 11_o 12._o be_v
acknowledge_v right_o by_o mr_n martial_n and_o consequent_o his_o inference_n overthrow_v as_o i_o say_v above_o christian_n as_o for_o that_o which_o i_o allege_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o old_a rite_n among_o the_o jew_n in_o initiate_a proselyte_n to_o show_v that_o baptism_n in_o exact_a speech_n do_v not_o succeed_v circumcision_n but_o be_v a_o continuation_n of_o a_o old_a rite_n to_o an●ther_n purpose_n as_o in_o exact_a speech_n the_o lord_n do_v not_o succeed_v the_o pas●●over_n but_o be_v a_o old_a rite_n use_v at_o the_o paschall_n supper_n among_o the_o jew_n and_o continue_v by_o christ_n to_o another_o purpose_n mr_n marshal_n catch_v at_o as_o a_o proof_n for_o infant-baptisme_n because_o then_o the_o proselyte_n child_n be_v baptize_v pag._n 256._o but_o the_o answer_n to_o it_o be_v easy_a for_o though_o the_o rite_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o old_a use_n continue_v by_o john_n baptist_n and_o christ_n yet_o i_o say_v it_o be_v to_o another_o purpose_n or_o use_v as_o i_o show_v pag._n 89._o 90._o of_o my_o examen_fw-la clean_o of_o another_o nature_n as_o mr_n lightfoot_n harmony_n part_n 1._o pag._n 138._o and_o be_v use_v according_a to_o another_o rule_n then_o among_o the_o jew_n for_o they_o do_v not_o baptize_v jew_n either_o elder_a or_o young_a as_o the_o same_o learned_a man_n i_o cite_v confess_v but_o only_o the_o gentile_n because_o they_o be_v unclean_a and_o they_o be_v initiate_v by_o sacrifice_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n with_o many_o other_o difference_n but_o john_n the_o baptist_n and_o christ_n disciple_n baptize_v jew_n as_o well_o as_o gentile_n without_o sacrifice_n as_o for_o mr_n marshal_n four_o conclusion_n he_o confess_v pag._n 128._o that_o the_o formal_a reason_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v circum●●sed_v be_v the_o command_n which_o if_o true_a it_o be_v the_o distinguish_n and_o constitute_v reason_n qua_fw-la posita_fw-la ponitur_fw-la res_fw-la martial_n non_fw-la posita_fw-la non_fw-la ponitur_fw-la so_o that_o the_o jew_n ought_v to_o be_v circumcise_v because_o of_o the_o command_n without_o a_o command_n what_o ever_o be_v their_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n or_o church-state_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v circumcise_v now_o this_o be_v as_o much_o as_o need_v be_v to_o overthrow_v mr_n marshal_n argument_n which_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v precise_o by_o virtue_n of_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n without_o a_o command_n because_o as_o he_o suppose_v the_o jew_n infant_n be_v circumcise_v mere_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n for_o so_o the_o analogy_n or_o proportion_n in_o his_o reason_n must_v hold_v the_o jew_n infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v ergo_fw-la it_o must_v be_v so_o with_o believer_n child_n now_o in_o baptism_n where_o the_o formal_a reason_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v the_o covenant_n but_o mr_n martial_n both_o pag._n 92._o &_o pag_n 182._o confess_v the_o formal_a reason_n be_v the_o command_n and_o therefore_o though_o the_o covenant_n be_v pu●_n yet_o if_o the_o command_n be_v not_o put_v circumcision_n of_o infant_n ●ad_n be_v no_o duty_n but_o a_o will-worship_n and_o by_o parity_n of_o reason_n it_o be_v so_o in_o baptism_n infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v bare_o by_o virtue_n of_o covenant-holinesse_n without_o a_o command_n which_o be_v the_o main_a thing_n i_o contend_v for_o as_o for_o the_o five_o conclusion_n of_o mr_n martial_n that_o which_o i_o answer_v continue_v still_o state_n that_o circumcision_n though_o it_o be_v a_o privilege_n to_o the_o jewish_a church_n as_o the_o ark_n tabernacle_n high_a priest_n temple_n be_v belong_v to_o that_o national_a church-state_n to_o have_v themselves_o and_o infant_n circumcise_v yet_o it_o be_v a_o privilege_n proper_a to_o that_o time_n not_o now_o to_o continue_v as_o the_o apostle_n gal._n 3._o &_o 4._o heb._n 9_o &_o 10._o show_n it_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n common_a to_o jew_n and_o gentile_n and_o so_o neither_o be_v it_o or_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o room_n of_o it_o any_o more_o a_o privilege_n to_o we_o now_o then_o some_o house_n the_o room_n of_o the_o temple_n some_o chief_a bishop_n in_o the_o room_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o i_o say_v still_o that_o this_o argument_n be_v indeed_o of_o no_o weight_n but_o among_o vulgar_a and_o non-syllogizing_a capacity_n and_o that_o divine_n that_o use_v it_o do_v but_o flatter_v the_o people_n by_o it_o and_o that_o if_o the_o reason_n be_v good_a it_o overthrow_v our_o completeness_n in_o christ_n in_o who_o we_o have_v circumcision_n ark_n temple_n priest_n all_z and_o as_o i_o say_v in_o my_o exercitation_n it_o be_v the_o very_a egg_n out_o of_o which_o most_o of_o the_o popish_a ceremony_n be_v hatch_v to_o wit_n because_o they_o think_v we_o must_v have_v privilege_n as_o the_o jew_n and_o therefore_o must_v have_v something_o like_o that_o they_o have_v mr_n martial_n pag._n 195._o of_o his_o defence_n speak_v thus_o first_o for_o the_o point_n of_o will-worship_n i_o shall_v desire_v you_o to_o prove_v this_o conclusion_n that_o all_o thing_n belong_v to_o christian_n worship_n even_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o it_o even_o the_o age_n and_o sex_n of_o the_o person_n to_o who_o the_o ordinance_n be_v to_o be_v apply_v must_v be_v express_o set_v down_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n if_o you_o prove_v not_o this_o you_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o this_o be_v our_o very_a case_n to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o i_o owe_v not_o m._n marshal_v such_o service_n as_o to_o prove_v what_o he_o shall_v like_v another_o euristeus_n enjoin_v i_o i_o have_v pag._n 11●_n pag._n 152_o of_o my_o examen_fw-la syllogistical_o set_v down_o my_o argument_n to_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n will-worship_n it_o belong_v to_o he_o to_o tell_v i_o what_o he_o deny_v in_o my_o syllogism_n that_o i_o may_v prove_v it_o though_o i_o have_v already_o do_v it_o and_o sha●l_v do_v more_o full_o when_o he_o tell_v i_o what_o he_o do_v deny_v but_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o he_o to_o impose_v on_o i_o the_o proof_n of_o a_o proposition_n i_o own_v not_o and_o not_o tell_v i_o what_o he_o deny_v in_o my_o own_o syllogism_n this_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o disputation_n i_o have_v be_v acquaint_v with_o yet_o if_o mr_n martial_n shall_v declare_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v but_o a_o circumstance_n i_o shall_v be_v ready_a to_o oppose_v he_o therein_o further_o and_o show_v that_o the_o point_n in_o difference_n be_v not_o the_o bare_a age_n or_o sex_n but_o qualification_n of_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v yea_o the_o reason_n and_o main_a use_n of_o baptism_n as_o for_o mr_n marshal_n principle_n for_o his_o virtual_a command_n i_o have_v show_v above_o force_n that_o when_o he_o shall_v have_v bring_v all_o protestant_n divine_v aver_v this_o maxim_n that_o all_o the_o command_n and_o institution_n of_o god_n about_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o jew_n bind_v we_o as_o much_o as_o they_o do_v they_o in_o all_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v not_o accidental_a to_o they_o in_o stead_n of_o this_o he_o allege_v another_o thing_n that_o protestant_n divine_n make_v the_o same_o general_a nature_n end_n and_o use_v of_o our_o sacrament_n and_o the_o jew_n sacrament_n and_o argue_v thereupon_o from_o one_o to_o the_o other_o which_o be_v quite_o beside_o the_o business_n for_o the_o maxim_n be_v of_o command_n about_o the_o sacrament_n and_o they_o be_v all_o about_o the_o ritual_n or_o administration_n and_o concern_v command_n about_o the_o sacrament_n bind_v we_o as_o the_o jew_n he_o produce_v not_o one_o command_n bind_v we_o or_o one_o protestant_a avow_a it_o as_o for_o the_o command_n matth._n 28._o 19_o when_o i_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o make_v disciple_n but_o no_o where_o be_v infant_n say_v to_o be_v disciple_v mr_n martial_n tell_v i_o that_o some_o learned_a critic_n say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answer_v to_o a_o hebrew_n phrase_n among_o the_o rabbin_n mean_v of_o admission_n of_o scholar_n that_o they_o may_v be_v teach_v which_o though_o i_o believe_v not_o yet_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v serve_v not_o mr_n marshal_n turn_v unless_o he_o can_v show_v that_o infant_n be_v say_v by_o they_o to_o be_v thus_o admitted-schollar_n then_o mr_n martial_n refer_v i_o with_o a_o blind_a direction_n to_o spanheimius_n who_o i_o have_v consult_v and_o i_o find_v many_o absurdity_n in_o that_o learned_a author_n word_n dub_v evang._n part_n 3._o dub_v 27._o this_o in_o effect_n he_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contain_v not_o the_o act_n the_o
which_o reason_n if_o good_a it_o will_v follow_v they_o may_v have_v the_o lord_n supper_n be_v ordain_v minister_n for_o these_o be_v less_o than_o chris●s_v blessing_n afore_o the_o print_n of_o this_o apology_n i_o meet_v with_o and_o read_v a_o book_n of_o one_o mr_n william_n hussey_n a_o man_n unknown_a to_o i_o save_v by_o a_o former_a treatise_n of_o he_o which_o i_o have_v see_v and_o he_o entitle_v it_o satisfaction_n to_o master_n tomb_n his_o scepticall_a exercitation_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n he_o say_v and_o here_o i_o will_v turn_v sceptic_a with_o master_n tomb_n if_o i_o shall_v give_v he_o the_o title_n of_o fantastic_a in_o requital_n of_o the_o title_n of_o sceptic_a he_o pin_v upon_o i_o i_o can_v give_v better_a reason_n for_o it_o then_o he_o bring_v for_o his_o imposition_n of_o that_o new_a title_n on_o i_o but_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o i_o to_o clear_v myself_o gel._n l._n 11._o c._n 5._o noct_n attic._n say_v the_o tychonian_n philosopher_n be_v call_v skeptic_n that_o be_v seeker_n and_o considerer_n because_o they_o determine_v nothing_o but_o be_v always_o in_o consider_v and_o seek_v but_o master_n martial_n think_v i_o guilty_a rather_o of_o too_o much_o selfe-confidence_n yea_o in_o this_o point_n though_o i_o do_v as_o i_o conceive_v befit_v i_o then_o propound_v my_o thought_n in_o the_o disputation_n with_o my_o brethren_n in_o the_o ministry_n and_o in_o my_o exercitation_n to_o the_o committee_n of_o the_o assembly_n under_o the_o term_n of_o doubt_n yet_o in_o my_o examen_fw-la i_o assert_v they_o as_o position_n and_o therefore_o that_o author_n do_v unworthy_o entitle_v my_o exercitation_n scepticall_a or_o i_o a_o sceptic_a which_o be_v in_o effect_n if_o he_o understand_v what_o he_o say_v to_o accuse_v i_o as_o adhere_v to_o nothing_o as_o certain_a in_o matter_n of_o sense_n reason_n or_o faith_n but_o concern_v the_o book_n though_o he_o entitle_v it_o satisf●action_n and_o the_o licenser_n say_v find_v it_o to_o be_v in_o his_o judgement_n solid_a and_o judicious_a and_o i_o be_o pretty_a well_o acquaint_v with_o the_o humour_n of_o man_n who_o be_v ready_a to_o cry_v up_o any_o thing_n as_o satisfactory_a which_o they_o affect_v yet_o i_o believe_v the_o assembly_n will_v not_o conceive_v his_o book_n satisfactory_a nor_o these_o passage_n follow_v to_o be_v solid_a and_o judicious_a as_o that_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n he_o call_v baptism_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o proffer_n of_o grace_n pag._n 3._o i_o answer_v that_o be_v a_o especial_a privilege_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o they_o have_v their_o civil_a law_n from_o god_n but_o what_o lie_v upon_o a_o nation_n as_o a_o duty_n that_o it_o may_v require_v of_o all_o and_o cut_v off_o they_o that_o refuse_v and_o this_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o commission_n when_o nation_n shall_v covenant_v to_o be_v disciple_n which_o may_v be_v do_v by_o a_o part_n for_o the_o whole_a then_o be_v such_o ●_o be_v in_o commission_n from_o christ_n command_v to_o baptize_v and_o teach_v the_o whole_a nation_n such_o as_o be_v in_o authority_n may_v covenant_v in_o a_o national_a 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o inferior_a sort_n and_o just_o require_v all_o external_a performance_n from_o they_o such_o as_o baptism_n and_o submission_n to_o b●e_v teach_v 〈◊〉_d pag._n 4._o and_o what_o a_o parent_n can_v do_v over_o his_o child_n in_o matter_n of_o 〈◊〉_d duty_n ●_o that_o may_v the_o parent_n of_o the_o country_n the_o magistrate_n require_v of_o the_o nation_n god_n require_v it_o of_o they_o they_o may_v put_v all_o nation_n to_o school_v to_o christ_n now_o what_o if_o some_o of_o they_o be_v too_o young_a to_o learn_v yet_o if_o they_o be_v under_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o master_n they_o be_v scholar_n as_o may_v appear_v in_o many_o little_a child_n that_o be_v set_v to_o school_v to_o keep_v they_o safe_a and_o from_o wantonness_n before_o they_o be_v of_o capacity_n to_o learn_v many_o have_v a_o hornbooke_n give_v more_o for_o a_o play-game_n then_o a_o book_n yet_o be_v they_o scholar_n because_o under_o the_o discipline_n and_o correction_n of_o the_o master_n be_v it_o not_o therefore_o great_a reason_n that_o a_o christian_n shall_v dedicate_v his_o child●●_n to_o christ_n to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o blessing_n and_o discipline_n of_o christ_n pag._n 5._o and_o certain_o word_n can_v not_o have_v be_v invent_v that_o can_v have_v require_v the_o minister_n to_o baptize_v all_o the_o world_n infant_n and_o all_o willing_a or_o unwilling_a so_o that_o any_o will_v see_v they_o may_v be_v teach_v and_o submit_v to_o the_o precept_n and_o discipline_n of_o christ_n then_o to_o express_v it_o by_o the_o word_n nation_n and_o disciple_n pag._n 12._o abraham_n seed_n must_v be_v divide_v into_o equivocal_a and_o univocal_a equivocal_a seed_n christ_n for_o that_o he_o be_v not_o like_o abraham_n he_o be_v of_o abraham_n but_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la according_a to_o the_o flesh_n rom._n 1._o 3._o he_o be_v the_o promise_a seed_n not_o the_o seed_n unto_o who_o the_o promise_n do_v belong_v as_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n pag._n 43._o that_o which_o we_o argue_v from_o receive_v of_o family_n and_o from_o the_o apostle_n commission_n to_o baptize_v nation_n be_v that_o nation_n may_v make_v law_n for_o their_o whole_a nation_n to_o be_v baptize_v and_o if_o the_o major_a part_n of_o a_o nation_n do_v according_a to_o their_o duty_n receive_v baptism_n and_o undertake_v for_o the_o whole_a nation_n to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o become_v scholar_n of_o christ_n they_o may_v just_o compel_v by_o any_o penalty_n to_o join_v with_o they_o in_o the_o external_a worship_n of_o god_n this_o therefore_o be_v it_o which_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o commission_n direct_v to_o the_o disciple_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o nation_n that_o nation_n may_v act_v as_o nation_n and_o family_n as_o family_n that_o be_v that_o the_o more_o organ●all_a part_n must_v act_v for_o the_o residue_n the_o magistrate_n for_o the_o nation_n the_o master_n of_o the_o family_n for_o the_o residue_n the_o magistrate_n for_o the_o nation_n the_o master_n of_o the_o family_n for_o the_o family_n otherwise_o it_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o nation_n or_o of_o the_o family_n though_o a_o post_n factum_fw-la may_v be_v historical_o relate_v to_o overspread_v a_o nation_n that_o be_v do_v without_o a_o national_a consent_n to_o show_v the_o universality_n of_o a_o spread_a evil_n yet_o where_o a_o duty_n be_v charge_v upon_o a_o nation_n it_o can_v be_v orderly_o receive_v without_o a_o nation_n ●ll_v consent_v pag._n 44._o he_o that_o keep_v any_o servant_n that_o will_v not_o be_v baptize_v be_v not_o a_o good_a christian_a it_o be_v true_a all_o man_n of_o discretion_n ought_v to_o consent_v send_v to_o every_o duty_n baptism_n 〈…〉_z precept_n 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v pactum_fw-la impositum_fw-la pag._n 40._o the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v be_v all_o nation_n withoutany_n restriction_n 〈…〉_z if_o they_o that_o claim_v their_o interest_n in_o baptism_n can_v undertake_v for_o whole_a nation_n the_o commissioner_n must_v not_o refuse_v they_o the_o nation_n believe_v by_o the_o magistrate_n by_o who_o authority_n the_o whole_a nation_n be_v put_v to_o school_v to_o christ_n pag._n 54._o man_n may_v require_v of_o he_o that_o be_v of_o year_n to_o consent_v to_o his_o baptism_n 〈…〉_z a_o sin_n and_o punish_v he_o for_o it_o as_o for_o adultery_n formation_n or_o any_o other_o public_a offence_n pag._n 59_o if_o any_o will_v bring_v turk_n child_n and_o infidel_n to_o baptism_n and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o they_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n i_o know_v not_o but_o they_o may_v and_o if_o 〈◊〉_d will_v 〈◊〉_d with_o their_o child_n to_o christian_n i_o think_v it_o be_v a_o very_a charitable_a thing_n so_o to_o do_v for_o the_o promise_n be_v ●ever_o so_o tie_v to_o abraham_n loin_n neither_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v to_o any_o believer_n but_o to_o education_n in_o the_o family_n of_o abraham_n or_o any_o other_o believe_a family_n pag._n 61._o they_o that_o believe_v and_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o 〈◊〉_d be_v no_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o work●●_n preach_v it_o to_o 〈◊〉_d infidel_n neither_o 〈◊〉_d it_o any_o 〈◊〉_d of_o baptism_n to_o baptize_v a_o infidel_n pag._n 64._o and_o indeed_o 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o very_a strange_a thing_n for_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v tender_v to_o 〈…〉_z and_o approve_v declare_v and_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v true_a it_o may_v be_v tender_v to_o man_n this_o profess_v they_o faith_n because_o man_n can_v judge_v they_o faithful_a notwithstanding_o any_o profession_n and_o therefore_o baptize_v they_o but_o if_o they_o can_v know_v and_o judge_v they_o faithful_a
word_n 〈◊〉_d the●e_n for_o the_o covenant_n or_o promise_n of_o grace_n that_o be_v righteousness_n and_o life_n as_o christ_n though_o i_o acknowledge_v a_o peculiar_a promise_n to_o abraham_n natural_a posterity_n mention_v rom._n 11._o 27._o yet_o i_o know_v not_o that_o god_n have_v make_v such_o a_o covenant_n to_o any_o much_o less_o to_o all_o the_o natural_a believe_a seed_n of_o any_o believe_a gentile_a and_o propos_fw-fr 3._o i_o say_v they_o have_v some_o promise_n though_o general_a indefinite_a and_o conditional_a and_o i_o mean_v by_o general_n and_o indefinite_a such_o as_o determine_v not_o the_o kind_n of_o good_a promise_v nor_o the_o particular_a person_n and_o therefore_o be_v true_a if_o perform_v to_o any_o person_n in_o any_o sort_n of_o good_a and_o conditional_a upon_o condition_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v the_o generation_n of_o the_o righteous_a shall_v be_v bless_v his_o righteousness_n to_o child_n child_n to_o such_o as_o 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the_o church_n that_o have_v no_o other_o than_o infant-baptisme_n be_v no_o true_a church_n nor_o their_o member_n church-member_n as_o master_n marshal_n say_v pag._n 84._o of_o his_o defence_n and_o so_o voluntary_a separation_n necessary_a but_o these_o point_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o right_a baptism_n not_o only_o to_o the_o right_a order_n but_o also_o to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n and_o church-member_n and_o so_o voluntary_a separation_n bare_o for_o the_o defect_n of_o it_o i_o have_v ever_o disclaim_v as_o consider_v the_o many_o error_n and_o ill_a consequence_n that_o will_v follow_v thereupon_o and_o though_o provocation_n still_o increase_v yet_o i_o have_v in_o my_o practice_n shun_v separation_n from_o my_o disent_a brethren_n and_o i_o presume_v though_o mr_n martial_n count_v right_a baptism_n a_o necessary_a duty_n yet_o he_o will_v be_v more_o advise_v then_o to_o make_v it_o essential_a either_o constitutiuè_n or_o consecutiuè_fw-la to_o the_o be_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d passion_n or_o such_o like_a cause_n usual_o befall_v such_o meeting_n and_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o much_o woe_n to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v it_o well_o or_o ill_o take_v liberavi_fw-la animam_fw-la meam_fw-la meam_fw-la i_o have_v free_v my_o own_o soul_n there_o be_v some_o other_o thing_n wherewith_o mr_n marshal_n endeavour_v to_o render_v i_o a_o suspect_a person_n pag._n 29._o of_o his_o defence_n i_o can_v but_o wonder_n why_o you_o who_o pretend_v to_o be_v familiar_o acquaint_v with_o the_o secret_n of_o antiquity_n shall_v have_v so_o much_o correspondency_n with_o they_o who_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o help_v you_o with_o any_o certain_a intelligence_n hugo_n grotius_n be_v the_o strong_a stake_n to_o support_v your_o totter_a hedge_n and_o sure_o i_o be_o grotius_n be_v a_o friend_n to_o the_o socinian_o and_o it_o be_v well_o know_v what_o they_o think_v of_o baptism_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v untrue_a that_o i_o any_o 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be_v tax_v for_o pelagianize_a whereas_o those_o word_n be_v pointblank_a against_o they_o which_o be_v observe_v by_o i_o the_o answerer_n think_v it_o wisdom_n to_o say_v nothing_o to_o it_o and_o for_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o testimony_n master_n marshal_v bring_v i_o do_v confess_v nazianzen_n cyprian_n augustin_n hierom_n ambrose_n mention_v paedobaptism_n but_o never_o upon_o mr_n marshal_n ground_n federal_a holiness_n but_o upon_o 〈◊〉_d suppose_a necessity_n to_o save_v the_o infant_n from_o perish_v master_n marshal_v it_o seem_v rest_v much_o on_o augustine_n word_n that_o he_o say_v hoc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la semper_fw-la habuit_fw-la semper_fw-la tenuit_fw-la hoc_fw-la a_o majorum_fw-la fide_fw-la accepit_fw-la hoc_fw-la usque_fw-la in_o finem_fw-la perseveranter_fw-la custodit_fw-la he_o put_v it_o therefore_o in_o the_o title_n pag._n 55._o of_o his_o defence_n and_o pag._n 9_o quote_v for_o these_o word_n augustin_n serm._n 15._o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apost_n i_o have_v 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conceive_v little_a cause_n to_o be_v move_v with_o those_o word_n first_o because_o i_o find_v not_o that_o augustin_n take_v it_o to_o be_v the_o tenet_n of_o the_o church_n from_o any_o other_o ground_n than_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a 59_o ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la concern_v which_o he_o say_v that_o cyprian_a have_v show_v how_o the_o church_n have_v always_o hold_v it_o both_o in_o the_o word_n above_o cite_a tom_n 10._o serm._n 14._o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apost_n &_o tom_n 7._o lib._n 2._o de_fw-la peccat_fw-la merit●_n &_o remiss_a c._n 5._o etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o he_o that_o read_v that_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a shall_v find_v cyprian_a only_o declare_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o council_n of_o 66_o bishop_n there_o mention_v but_o nothing_o of_o the_o church_n always_o hold_v it_o second_o the_o famous_a story_n of_o the_o likelihood_n of_o cheat_v augustine_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o african_a bishop_n with_o a_o supposititious_a canon_n of_o the_o nicen_n council_n by_o three_o roman_a bishop_n to_o confirm_v appeal_v to_o rome_n from_o africa_n in_o the_o case_n of_o apiarius_n do_v i_o think_v show_v that_o augustin_n may_v easy_o be_v mistake_v about_o the_o tenet_n of_o the_o church_n three_o the_o many_o speech_n in_o augustin_n as_o epist_n 118._o and_o elsewhere_o and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n about_o easter_n lent-fast_a episcopacy_n infant_n communion_n and_o other_o tradition_n which_o be_v not_o credit_v by_o protestant_a nor_o some_o of_o they_o by_o some_o popish_a writer_n do_v clear_a he_o from_o arrogance_n or_o impudence_n that_o shall_v say_v there_o be_v no_o great_a reason_n to_o give_v so_o much_o credit_n to_o that_o large_a assertion_n of_o augustin_n if_o it_o be_v his_o as_o master_v marshal_n and_o some_o other_o seem_v to_o give_v to_o it_o four_o those_o word_n of_o augustin_n tom_n 7._o de_fw-la peccat_fw-la merito_fw-la &_o remissione_n lib._n 10._o c._n 34._o optime_fw-la punici_fw-la christiani_n baptismum_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la salutem_fw-la &_o sacramentum_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la vitam_fw-la vocant_fw-la unde_fw-la nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la antiquant_a existimo_fw-la &_o ●_o apostolica_fw-la traditione_n qua_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la i●situm_fw-la tenent_fw-la pr●ter_fw-la baptismum_fw-la &_o participationem_fw-la dominicae_fw-la me●s●_n non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la regnum_fw-la dei_fw-la sed_fw-la nec_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la &_o vitam_fw-la aeternam_fw-la posse_fw-la quenquam_fw-la hominum_fw-la pervenire_fw-la do_v i_o think_v evidence_n that_o augustin_n sometime_o call_v that_o the_o church_n tenet_n which_o he_o gather_v by_o conjecture_n from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o african_a christian_n know_v to_o he_o but_o it_o will_v be_v say_v the_o pelagian_n do_v not_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n to_o have_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n i_o answer_v nor_o do_v i_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v in_o augustine_n time_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o latin_a and_o greek_a church_n to_o baptize_v infant_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o that_o it_o be_v so_o from_o the_o beginning_n and_o always_o in_o the_o church_n we_o do_v not_o find_v the_o pelagian_n yield_v yet_o do_v they_o not_o perhaps_o question_v it_o either_o because_o they_o be_v carry_v away_o with_o that_o erroneous_a rule_n that_o what_o they_o see_v every_o where_o practise_v and_o find_v not_o when_o it_o begin_v to_o take_v that_o for_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n or_o because_o of_o the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o present_a custom_n which_o augustine_n himself_o somewhere_o confess_v that_o though_o he_o mislike_v yet_o liberius_fw-la improbare_fw-la non_fw-la andeo_fw-la but_o say_v master_n marshal_n pag._n 55._o i_o can_v but_o conceive_v it_o likely_a that_o augustine_n ecclesia_fw-la semper_fw-la habuit_fw-la semper_fw-la tenuit_fw-la shall_v sway_v as_o much_o with_o the_o intelligent_a 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ancient_n especial_o the_o greek_a church_n have_v reject_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n meaning_n in_o the_o first_o age_n after_o christ_n but_o as_o yet_o neither_o mr_n marshal_n nor_o his_o friend_n have_v show_v i_o sufficient_a reason_n why_o i_o shall_v retract_v it_o for_o what_o he_o bring_v out_o of_o photius_n and_o balsamon_n man_n of_o much_o late_a stand_n about_o the_o late_a canon_n and_o imperial_a law_n of_o the_o greek_n and_o one_o of_o the_o 8_o canon_n conclude_v in_o carthage_n against_o the_o pelagian_n require_v infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v prove_v not_o but_o that_o the_o greek_a church_n reject_v baptise_v of_o infant_n many_o hundred_o of_o year_n in_o the_o first_o age_n nor_o do_v it_o overthrow_v that_o of_o grotius_n that_o many_o of_o the_o greek_n he_o do_v not_o say_v the_o greek_a church_n in_o every_o age_n to_o this_o day_n do_v keep_v the_o custom_n of_o defer_v the_o baptise_v of_o little_a one_o till_o they_o 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learned_a gentleman_n mr_n john_n selden_n of_o the_o inner_a temple_n clarissime_fw-la vir_fw-la inter_fw-la theologorum_fw-la placita_fw-la haec_fw-la obtinent_fw-la baptismum_fw-la joannis_n &_o christ_n circumcisioni_fw-la judaicae_n succedere_fw-la ejusque_fw-la locum_fw-la occupare_fw-la atque_fw-la inde_fw-la paedobaptismi_fw-la ri●um_fw-la deduci_fw-la mihi_fw-la verò_fw-la cum_fw-la de_fw-la paedobaptismi_fw-la origine_fw-la tum_fw-la de_fw-fr successione_n baptismi_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la circumcisionis_fw-la a_o vera_fw-la tradant_fw-la theologi_fw-la isti_fw-la gravis_fw-la diu_fw-la insedit_fw-la dubitatio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la enim_fw-la institutum_fw-la longè_fw-la aliud_fw-la esse_fw-la à_fw-la circumcisione_n &_o paedobaptismum_n in_o ecclesiis_fw-la christianis_fw-la nonnisi_fw-la in_o seculo_fw-la post_fw-la apostolos_fw-la secundo_fw-la obtinuisse_fw-la plurima_fw-la suadent_fw-la inter_fw-la alia_fw-la vero_fw-la istud_fw-la urget_fw-la quod_fw-la legerim_fw-la alicubi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la libris_fw-la jam_fw-la spoliatus_fw-la locum_fw-la judicare_fw-la nequeam_fw-la baptismi_fw-la ritum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la satis_fw-la notum_fw-la ante_fw-la joannis_n baptistae_fw-la tempora_fw-la in_o admissione_n proselytorum_fw-la aut_fw-la discipulorum_fw-la apud_fw-la judaeos_fw-la &_o interrogatio_fw-la pharisaeorum_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la novitate_fw-la ritus_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la authoritate_fw-la baptizantis_fw-la quaerentium_fw-la joannis_n evangelii_n cap._n 1._o co●_n 25._o idem_fw-la innuere_fw-la videtur_fw-la et_fw-la forsan_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la eundem_fw-la cap._n 3._o com._n 25._o ad_fw-la usurpationem_fw-la istius_fw-la ritus_fw-la spectabat_fw-la paedobaptismum_fw-la verò_fw-la ignotum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la primaevis_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la christianarum_fw-la temporibus_fw-la asserit_fw-la ludovicus_n vives_n comment_n in_o augustini_fw-la de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 27._o quapropter_fw-la vir_fw-la ornatissime_fw-la super_fw-la istis_fw-la apicibus_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la successione_n scilicet_fw-la baptismi●●_n lecum_fw-la circumcisionis_fw-la &_o paedobaptismi_fw-la origin●_n te_fw-la cujus_fw-la periti●_n in_fw-la rebus_fw-la &_o scriptis_fw-la hebraicis_fw-la &_o ecclesiasticis_fw-la veritatis_fw-la amor_fw-la animique_fw-la candour_n satis_fw-la spectantur_fw-la &_o latè_fw-la praedicantur_fw-la consulendum_fw-la duxi_fw-la pla●eat_fw-la itaque_fw-la claritudini_fw-la tu●_n mihi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la obscure_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tamen_fw-la tanquam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la ●stare_fw-la animi_fw-la sententiam_fw-la tui_fw-la impertire_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la sit_v scio_fw-la te_fw-la plurimis_fw-la iisque_fw-la gravissimis_fw-la negotits_fw-fr occupari_fw-la responsum_fw-la tuum_fw-la se●_n pluribus_fw-la seu_fw-la pa●cioribus_fw-la verbis_fw-la tempore_fw-la à_fw-la ●eipso_fw-la posite_fw-la expect_v abit_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la observantissi●●_n joannes_n tomb_n londini_fw-la ●●dibus_fw-la recto●is_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈…〉_z august●●●4_n 1644._o though_o the_o answer_n be_v no_o other_o than_o a_o reference_n of_o i_o to_o the_o book_n i_o may_v meet_v with_o in_o stationer_n shop_n yet_o i_o conceive_v this_o advantage_n i_o have_v by_o it_o that_o what_o i_o find_v in_o book_n extant_a may_v be_v the_o more_o safe_o rely_v on_o and_o that_o my_o diligence_n to_o discover_v the_o truth_n will_v be_v the_o more_o apparent_a for_o which_o i_o deny_v myself_o rest_v write_n and_o without_o recompense_n from_o man_n lay_v out_o more_o than_o my_o estate_n can_v bear_v but_o m._n mar._n seem_v ready_a to_o catch_v at_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v make_v i_o suspect_v and_o so_o bring_v my_o writing_n out_o of_o credit_n &_o p._n 78._o of_o his_o defence_n thus_o he_o speak_v i_o be_o misinform_v by_o good_a friend_n who_o know_v &_o love_v you_o very_o well_o if_o yourself_o incline_v not_o this_o way_n to_o baptize_v any_o whether_o turk_n or_o heathen_n who_o only_o will_v make_v a_o profession_n of_o their_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n &_o then_o admit_v they_o to_o all_o other_o ordinance_n &_o not_o have_v they_o excommunicate_v à_fw-la sacris_fw-la but_o only_o à_fw-la privato_fw-la consortio_fw-la though_o their_o life_n shall_v prove_v scandalous_a to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o in_o private_a conference_n lament_v the_o sad_a condition_n of_o these_o nation_n that_o be_v likely_a to_o cut_v one_o another_o throat_n about_o the_o difference_n between_o presbyterian_o &_o independent_o i_o have_v say_v that_o i_o doubt_v whether_o ever_o excommunication_n à_fw-la sacris_fw-la or_o the_o presbyterian_a or_o independent_a ecclesiastical_a government_n will_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la by_o christ_n appointment_n and_o i_o confess_v that_o i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o prudence_n whether_o each_o congregation_n have_v its_o complete_a power_n and_o order_n within_o itself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v order_v in_o some_o thing_n by_o a_o assembly_n of_o select_a person_n out_o of_o divers_a congregation_n and_o whether_o congregation_n and_o pastor_n be_v fix_v or_o unfixed_a and_o i_o doubt_v whether_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n matth._n 16._o 19_o be_v any_o other_o then_o doctrinal_a whither_o matth._n 18_o 15_o 16_o 17_o 18._o contain_v