Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
christian_n	baptism_n	circumcision_n	infant_n	1,521	5	9.8764	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90658	A reply to a confutation of some grounds for infants baptisme: as also, concerning the form of a church, put forth against mee by one Thomas Lamb. Hereunto is added, a discourse of the verity and validity of infants baptisme, wherein I endeavour to clear it in it self: as also in the ministery administrating it, and the manner of administration, by sprinkling, and not dipping; with sundry other particulars handled herein. / By George Philips of Watertown in New England.	Phillips, George, 1593-1644.	1645 (1645)	Wing P2026; Thomason E287_4; ESTC R200088	141,673	168

the_o step_n of_o abraham_n in_o regard_n of_o god_n intention_n offer_v and_o dispensation_n but_o with_o many_o of_o they_o god_n be_v not_o well_o please_v because_o they_o be_v not_o spiritual_a as_o he_o will_v have_v have_v they_o and_o now_o the_o church_n constitution_n be_v of_o the_o like_a spiritual_a seed_n though_o many_o be_v carnal_a the_o church_n then_o and_o now_o consist_v of_o elect_a and_o reprobate_n the_o elect_a only_o obtain_v and_o the_o rest_n be_v harden_v and_o let_v i_o ask_v he_o now_o in_o his_o own_o word_n as_o he_o do_v i_o in_o his_o first_o exception_n to_o my_o three_o proposition_n how_o can_v god_n blame_v they_o for_o refuse_v his_o call_n etc._n etc._n be_v they_o not_o abraham_n seed_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o be_v not_o this_o their_o true_a constitution_n according_a to_o his_o apprehension_n one_o thing_n more_o he_o observe_v and_o that_o be_v a_o contradiction_n betwixt_o the_o five_o and_o the_o six_o proposition_n which_o he_o can_v but_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v this_o that_o in_o the_o five_o i_o shall_v say_v faith_n and_o the_o first_o grace_n must_v be_v presuppose_v or_o else_o baptism_n not_o to_o be_v administer_v and_o in_o the_o six_o that_o in_o a_o man_n of_o year_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v require_v and_o must_v be_v that_o he_o may_v be_v baptize_v but_o not_o the_o same_o of_o infant_n and_o frame_v a_o solution_n which_o he_o conceive_v i_o may_v make_v viz._n that_o grace_n may_v be_v in_o infant_n though_o not_o know_v but_o in_o man_n of_o year_n who_o be_v able_a to_o manifest_v what_o be_v in_o they_o such_o manifestation_n be_v to_o be_v require_v from_o they_o without_o which_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o conclude_v this_o do_v not_o reconcile_v but_o a_o apparent_a contradiction_n remain_v to_o which_o i_o add_v this_o short_a reply_n first_o that_o i_o say_v not_o faith_n or_o a_o first_o grace_n but_o a_o first_o grace_n be_v to_o be_v presuppose_v nor_o do_v i_o mean_v it_o of_o faith_n for_o they_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o actual_a faith_n though_o they_o may_v have_v habitual_a which_o can_v be_v discern_v and_o i_o conceive_v that_o we_o must_v look_v upon_o some_o know_a grace_n from_o which_o we_o may_v judge_v though_o not_o infallible_o that_o baptism_n do_v belong_v unto_o they_o second_o therefore_o as_o in_o my_o reply_n to_o his_o five_o proposition_n grace_n be_v either_o foederall_a or_o covenant_v grace_n or_o of_o the_o thing_n contain_v in_o the_o covenant_n foederall_a grace_n be_v that_o whereby_o god_n out_o of_o his_o free_a love_n do_v take_v a_o people_n and_o make_v they_o his_o without_o any_o desert_n of_o their_o own_o that_o be_v not_o he_o deu._n 4.34.37.7_o ezek._n 16.2_o etc._n etc._n and_o infant_n be_v partaker_n of_o this_o grace_n as_o well_o as_o man_n of_o year_n grace_n free_o give_v be_v either_o general_a to_o all_o in_o covenant_n as_o the_o offer_n of_o all_o spiritual_a good_a contain_v 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not_o partaker_n of_o it_o it_o will_v prove_v their_o own_o fault_n and_o sin_n and_o thus_o the_o contradiction_n be_v but_o imagine_v and_o not_o real_o in_o my_o expression_n and_o then_o he_o come_v to_o my_o argument_n whereby_o i_o prove_v that_o infant_n now_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v the_o first_o whereof_o be_v take_v from_o the_o oneness_n of_o the_o covenant_n from_o abraham_n to_o this_o day_n and_o lie_v thus_o if_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o continue_v to_o the_o jew_n and_o since_o to_o the_o christian_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o then_o as_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n then_o and_o receive_v the_o seal_n of_o it_o circumcision_n so_o be_v infant_n now_o in_o the_o covenant_n and_o must_v receive_v the_o seal_n thereof_o baptism_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o to_o this_o he_o answer_v by_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n that_o the_o covenant_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o and_o to_o clear_v the_o ground_n of_o his_o denial_n he_o undertake_v to_o show_v concern_v the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n 1._o what_o it_o be_v not_o 2._o what_o it_o be_v 3._o that_o we_o have_v no_o such_o covenant_n since_o christ_n come_n concern_v our_o seed_n in_o show_v what_o it_o be_v not_o he_o lie_v down_o three_o thing_n first_o that_o god_n do_v never_o promise_v to_o save_v any_o of_o abraham_n seed_n for_o abraham_n sake_n second_o nor_o yet_o for_o his_o father_n sake_n i_o know_v none_o that_o say_v so_o and_o therefore_o this_o may_v have_v be_v spare_v yet_o ishmael_n be_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o blessing_n because_o he_o be_v abraham_n seed_n gen._n 17.20_o and_o 21.13_o and_o many_o time_n the_o israelite_n fare_v the_o better_a for_o their_o father_n sake_n nor_o yet_o be_v abraham_n or_o his_o faith_n any_o efficient_a or_o meritorious_o a_o cause_n thereof_o but_o god_n free_a grace_n alone_o three_o he_o say_v that_o god_n do_v never_o promise_v to_o give_v faith_n to_o all_o abraham_n posterity_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o set_v down_o two_o reason_n hereof_o 1._o because_o than_o god_n shall_v lie_v because_o he_o do_v not_o that_o he_o promise_v but_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o god_n to_o lie_v 2._o because_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o god_n have_v promise_v to_o work_v in_o they_o that_o he_o require_v of_o they_o and_o yet_o blame_v they_o for_o not_o profit_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o mean_v vouchsafe_v they_o to_o which_o i_o reply_v first_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o promise_n deut._n 30.6_o and_o ezek._n 11.19_o and_o the_o like_a do_v not_o god_n promise_v here_o that_o he_o will_v give_v they_o faith_n and_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o threaten_a gen._n 17.14_o where_o god_n denounce_v cut_v off_o all_o such_o as_o do_v not_o circumcise_v themselves_o for_o break_v his_o covenant_n do_v it_o not_o hold_v out_o their_o despise_n and_o neglect_v the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n which_o god_n thereby_o seal_v 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therefore_o propound_v to_o consideration_n what_o i_o have_v observe_v intend_v not_o to_o say_v all_o nor_o to_o quote_v their_o say_n at_o large_a but_o to_o give_v some_o reference_n only_o and_o in_o this_o order_n first_o i_o will_v set_v down_o the_o judgement_n of_o single_a learned_a man_n in_o their_o writing_n second_o the_o consent_n of_o whole_a assembly_n and_o three_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o church_n in_o all_o age_n first_o that_o infant_n have_v be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v receive_v confirmation_n from_o testimony_n of_o all_o ancient_a writer_n which_o i_o have_v be_v able_a to_o take_v notice_n of_o as_o appear_v by_o these_o place_n justin_n mart._n in_o quaestion_n orthodox_n tertul._n lib._n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la cap._n 18._o pag._n 225._o see_v junius_n note_v also_o upon_o it_o pag._n 157._o dionysius_n areop_n quote_v by_o thom._n 3._o qu._n 68_o art_n 9_o origen_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n have_v it_o from_o the_o apostle_n hom_n 2._o in_o ps_n 38_o &_o in_o levit._n hom_n 8._o &_o in_o 6._o ad_fw-la rom._n cyprian_n epist_n lib._n 3.8_o epist_n ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la item_n epist_n in_o the_o first_o tome_n of_o counsel_n pag._n 240._o cyril_n upon_o leu._n 8._o syricius_n epist_n in_o first_o tome_n of_o counsel_n capit._n 1._o pag._n 493._o hieron_n lib._n 4._o in_o ezek._n 16._o idem_fw-la lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la pelag._n idem_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la laetam_fw-la aug._n in_o enchirid._n cap._n 42.43.51.65_o in_o lib._n the_o definit_a orthodox_n fidei_fw-la cap._n 21._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la cap._n 24.27.38_o idem_fw-la lib._n 4._o de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la contra_fw-la donatist_n cap._n 14._o and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n and_o against_o donatist_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 23._o he_o have_v these_o word_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o derive_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n nor_o of_o counsel_n but_o from_o the_o tradition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n greg._n nazian_n 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sanctification_n of_o that_o holy_a spirit_n partaker_n of_o life_n and_o immortality_n again_o this_o tender_a be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o in_o substance_n for_o ever_o from_o the_o first_o promulgation_n to_o adam_n and_o eve_n in_o paradise_n till_o this_o day_n and_o to_o the_o end_n yet_o have_v it_o admit_v of_o variation_n in_o the_o circumstance_n thereof_o as_o be_v clear_a from_o four_o several_a and_o remarkable_a period_n 1._o from_o adam_n fall_v to_o abraham_n under_o a_o promise_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n to_o break_v the_o serpent_n head_n gen._n 3.15_o 2._o the_o second_o from_o abraham_n to_o moses_n time_n in_o the_o wilderness_n in_o substance_n the_o same_o with_o the_o former_a yet_o differ_v from_o it_o first_o in_o promise_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n to_o proceed_v from_o abraham_n loin_n according_a to_o the_o