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An ansvver to a popish pamphlet called the touch-stone of the reformed gospell. made speciallie out of themselves. By William Guild, D.D. and preacher of Gods word.
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Guild, William, 1586-1657.
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Wing G2202; ESTC R221580
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for_o conscience_n sake_n which_o be_v contratie_n altogether_o unto_o christian_a liberty_n as_o for_o math._n 23._o 17._o and_o 19_o himself_o confess_v that_o the_o altar_n be_v say_v to_o sanctify_v the_o gift_n and_o the_o temple_n the_o gold_n as_o thing_n separate_v from_o a_o common_a to_o a_o holy_a use_n aâ_n say_v to_o be_v holy_a by_o destination_n but_o not_o by_o inhesion_n but_o the_o hallow_n of_o the_o creature_n of_o which_o this_o man_n mean_v be_v the_o popish_a hallow_n of_o their_o bell_n which_o they_o also_o baptise_v as_o also_o of_o their_o bead_n holy_a water_n and_o agnus_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o plain_a socerie_n conjure_v the_o dead_a &_o senseless_a creature_n &_o speak_v to_o they_o as_o if_o they_o both_o hear_v and_o understand_v &_o ascribe_v to_o they_o divine_a &_o miraculous_a operation_n one_o example_n or_o two_o whereof_o instead_o of_o many_o i_o shall_v instance_n of_o their_o conjure_v their_o holy_a water_n as_o be_v set_v down_o 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purge_a virtue_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o regeneration_n say_v he_o therefore_o also_o say_v lombard_n lib._n 4._o d._n 4._o god_n have_v not_o tie_v his_o power_n to_o sacrament_n so_o that_o the_o want_n do_v not_o damnify_v but_o the_o contempt_n for_o that_o some_o have_v get_v invisible_a sanctification_n without_o the_o visible_a sacrament_n say_v he_o &_o so_o also_o speak_v bellar._n lib._n 4_o de_fw-la christo_fw-la cap._n 16._o §_o ad_fw-la locum_fw-la and_o other_o romanist_n with_o he_o wherefore_o their_o own_o cassander_n conclude_v consult_v art_n 9_o saying_n that_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o bonaventure_n on_o the_o 4._o of_o the_o sentence_n &_o lombard_n do_v 4._o c._n 2._o show_n that_o infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n may_v be_v save_v for_o if_o they_o can_v get_v baptism_n be_v prevent_v by_o death_n as_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o these_o who_o offer_v 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the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n and_o renew_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n speak_v only_o of_o the_o work_n of_o regeneration_n or_o renovation_n as_o absolutlie_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n which_o sometime_o be_v compare_v to_o wash_v by_o water_n as_o ezek._n 36._o 25._o and_o sometime_o to_o purge_v by_o fire_n as_o math._n 3._o 11._o and_o which_o without_o baptismal_a wash_v the_o thief_n on_o the_o cross_n find_v available_a to_o salvation_n as_o this_o text_n speak_v according_a to_o the_o free_a mercy_n of_o god_n the_o three_o place_n be_v mark_v 16._o 16._o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v but_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v to_o which_o place_n bernard_n worthy_o answer_v epist_n 77._o saying_n mark_v when_o christ_n say_v he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v wary_o and_o well_o be_v say_v not_o but_o he_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v shall_v be_v damn_v but_o only_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v therefore_o say_v their_o carthusian_n on_o john_n 3._o 5._o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o baptism_n be_v necessary_a if_o occasion_n serve_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n otherwise_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n suffice_v else_o the_o believe_a thief_n on_o the_o cross_n have_v be_v exclude_v out_o of_o paradise_n the_o four_o place_n be_v gen._n 17._o 4._o the_o uncircumcised_a child_n shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o his_o people_n but_o circumsion_n be_v no_o more_o necessary_a to_o the_o isralits_n say_v he_o than_o baptism_n be_v to_o christian_n to_o who_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v the_o contempt_n of_o that_o sacrament_n that_o be_v mean_v and_o not_o the_o want_n thereof_o if_o occasion_n serve_v not_o to_o receive_v the_o same_o