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A86328 The foundation of the font discovered to the view of all that desire to behold it. And, the baptizing of men and women when they believe (in rivers and fountains) proved to be a standing ordinance in the Church of Cchrist to the end of the world; by plain Scripture-proof. In answer to Mr. Cook's Font uncovered, for infant-baptism; and Mr. Baxter's Plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership and baptism. With a word sometimes upon occasion to Mr. Hall's Font-guarded; which is more fully answered by Thomas Collyer. By Henry Haggar, a servant of Christ, and the congregations of his saints. Haggar, Henry. 1653 (1653) Wing H186; Thomason E711_1; ESTC R207114 109,478 143

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then_o little_a child_n that_o can_v neither_o consider_v what_o it_o will_v cost_v nor_o yet_o resolve_v in_o themselves_o what_o to_o do_v can_v possible_o be_v christ_n disciple_n but_o none_o can_v be_v christ_n disciple_n without_o they_o have_v the_o use_n of_o their_o will_n reason_n and_o affection_n so_o far_o as_o to_o consider_v before_o what_o it_o will_v cost_v and_o to_o resolve_v after_o whatsoever_o it_o cost_v to_o forsake_v all_o and_o their_o own_o life_n also_o as_o be_v prove_v by_o all_o these_o scripture_n luk._n 14.26_o 27_o 28_o 29_o 30_o 31_o 32_o 33._o compare_v with_o matth._n 10.37_o 38._o and_o mark_v 8.34_o matth._n 16.24_o 25._o therefore_o they_o which_o say_v little_a child_n that_o can_v do_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n be_v christ_n disciple_n it_o be_v much_o to_o be_v fear_v that_o they_o never_o yet_o learned_a to_o know_v what_o a_o disciple_n of_o christ_n be_v and_o be_v none_o themselves_o thus_o have_v show_v the_o deceit_n of_o mr._n cook_n 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