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be_v true_a pag._n 127._o and_o yet_o in_o the_o very_a same_o page_n he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o say_v we_o do_v not_o say_v our_o assembly_n be_v church_n as_o parish_n but_o that_o they_o be_v church_n in_o parish_n and_o in_o that_o sense_n parish_n church_n and_o in_o the_o page_n before_o he_o think_v the_o truth_n of_o some_o of_o our_o church_n as_o to_o their_o essence_n he_o can_v prove_v a_o church_n may_v be_v in_o a_o parish_n as_o well_o as_o in_o a_o country_n or_o city_n as_o ephesus_n corinth_n yea_o as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o world_n by_o this_o you_o may_v conceive_v what_o a_o good_a friend_n he_o be_v like_a to_o be_v to_o our_o parish_n church_n against_o anabaptist_n and_o brownist_n that_o although_o he_o account_v they_o rigid_a separatist_n they_o will_v grant_v that_o there_o be_v some_o parish_n in_o england_n that_o some_o that_o be_v godly_a and_o real_a member_n of_o christ_n dwell_v in_o they_o which_o they_o will_v confess_v be_v the_o matter_n 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3.25_o 26._o &_o 5.31_o rom._n 15.8_o 9_o 2_o cor._n 6.16.18_o &_o 7.1_o compare_v these_o scripture_n prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v usual_o apply_v those_o old_a free_a grace_n promise_n with_o the_o end_n of_o christ_n come_v into_o the_o world_n to_o confirm_v they_o to_o the_o gospel_n church_n but_o if_o any_o please_v to_o enter_v their_o exception_n against_o these_o my_o notion_n about_o the_o covenant_n i_o shall_v be_v glad_a both_o of_o a_o occasion_n and_o opportunity_n to_o insist_v more_o large_o upon_o they_o for_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o think_v there_o be_v not_o many_o that_o be_v very_o right_a about_o the_o nature_n and_o largeness_n of_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n make_v to_o the_o church_n and_o that_o straighten_v the_o covenant_n too_o much_o occasion_n very_o much_o division_n and_o schism_n in_o the_o
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say_v to_o be_v object_n of_o god_n first_o free_a grace_n for_o doubtless_o god_n give_v grace_n to_o none_o that_o be_v out_o of_o that_o covenant_n himself_o grant_v that_o the_o elect_v be_v enrol_v in_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n and_o many_o of_o they_o may_v be_v in_o the_o church_n i_o hope_v though_o in_o a_o state_n of_o unbelief_n in_o his_o sense_n and_o doubtless_o it_o be_v for_o the_o elect_v sake_n that_o we_o have_v a_o external_a administration_n a_o church_n consist_v of_o most_o bad_a that_o his_o elect_a may_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o sinner_n and_o other_o leave_v without_o excuse_n be_v this_o wise_a contrivance_n of_o the_o ever_o bless_v god_n and_o hence_o this_o mingle_a state_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a must_v grow_v together_o until_o the_o harvest_n experience_n do_v tell_v we_o what_o precious_a wheat_n have_v spring_v out_o of_o the_o root_n of_o wicked_a tare_n and_o wicked_a tare_n have_v spring_v out_o of_o the_o root_n of_o the_o choice_a wheat_n let_v that_o convince_v we_o mr._n collins_n say_v that_o argument_n about_o baptism_n have_v be_v answer_v again_o and_o again_o the_o argument_n be_v this_o if_o parent_n that_o be_v ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a in_o the_o church_n be_v so_o much_o in_o covenant_n as_o to_o give_v their_o child_n right_a unto_o holy_a baptism_n a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n than_o themselves_o have_v right_a to_o the_o holy_a supper_n it_o be_v but_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n the_o antecedent_n be_v grant_v by_o mr._n collins_n and_o all_o that_o be_v friend_n to_o his_o judgement_n and_o yet_o they_o deny_v the_o consequence_n because_o they_o say_v more_o be_v require_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n then_o unto_o baptism_n unto_o this_o i_o answer_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o in_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n more_o be_v require_v unto_o the_o supper_n then_o to_o baptism_n of_o person_n of_o year_n it_o be_v clear_a enough_o that_o which_o prepare_v they_o for_o baptism_n bring_v they_o into_o the_o church_n and_o that_o be_v once_o within_o they_o have_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n according_o be_v without_o question_n less_o be_v require_v unto_o covenant_n seal_v of_o person_n bear_v in_o the_o church_n they_o be_v free_a bear_v to_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o this_o spiritual_a corporation_n then_o of_o those_o that_o be_v alien_n and_o stranger_n by_o birth_n these_o obtain_v their_o freedom_n upon_o the_o term_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a be_v in_o as_o good_a a_o capacity_n of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n as_o their_o child_n be_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o lord_n they_o be_v under_o church_n indulgence_n first_o they_o be_v in_o a_o active_a capacity_n of_o exercise_v the_o understand_a heart_n and_o conscience_n memory_n with_o all_o the_o external_o require_v unto_o that_o service_n their_o child_n be_v mere_o passive_a for_o the_o other_o second_o parent_n be_v in_o possession_n of_o the_o feal_v of_o themselves_o but_o their_o child_n before_o baptism_n be_v not_o parent_n in_o the_o church_n derive_v as_o much_o right_n from_o their_o ancestor_n as_o their_o child_n do_v until_o they_o be_v discovenant_v if_o not_o more_o as_o be_v a_o generation_n near_o that_o right_a if_o parent_n covenant_n relation_n be_v sufficient_a to_o give_v right_a to_o the_o seal_n for_o his_o child_n then_o sure_o for_o himself_o beside_o the_o contradiction_n in_o the_o other_o opinion_n of_o mr._n collins_n as_o first_o he_o plead_v the_o counaâ—nt_n for_o the_o parent_n unto_o their_o child_n baptism_n and_o then_o dispute_v they_o out_o of_o covenant_n in_o his_o admission_n unto_o the_o holy_a supper_n they_o shall_v be_v account_v believer_n as_o to_o the_o one_o but_o unbeliever_n as_o to_o the_o other_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o they_o and_o their_o child_n in_o order_n unto_o baptism_n but_o then_o in_o order_n to_o the_o holy_a supper_n there_o be_v no_o more_o promise_n belong_v unto_o they_o then_o unto_o pagan_n and_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n make_v to_o any_o that_o have_v not_o faith_n to_o apply_v they_o and_o so_o exclude_v child_n from_o the_o promise_n too_o at_o last_o for_o they_o have_v not_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o to_o apply_v the_o promise_n thus_o you_o may_v see_v he_o be_v a_o presbyterian_a in_o practice_n and_o a_o anabaptist_n in_o opinion_n for_o if_o his_o judgement_n be_v true_a about_o baptism_n then_o it_o be_v false_a about_o the_o holy_a supper_n if_o his_o judgement_n be_v true_a about_o the_o supper_n then_o it_o be_v false_a about_o baptism_n for_o both_o be_v the_o same_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n exhibit_v only_o by_o different_a fign_n people_n have_v need_n be_v well_o settle_v and_o satisfy_v of_o themselves_o in_o these_o time_n that_o keep_v their_o station_n in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o have_v such_o teacher_n and_o meet_v with_o such_o opinion_n that_o destroy_v all_o the_o truth_n be_v our_o straightness_n in_o the_o one_o and_o largeness_n in_o the_o other_o do_v destroy_v itself_o and_o do_v occasion_n most_o intelligent_a christian_n either_o to_o fall_v off_o from_o infant_n baptism_n or_o else_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o those_o that_o be_v judge_v fit_a to_o be_v receive_v into_o holy_a communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v it_o not_o be_v for_o our_o own_o scruple_n about_o admit_v to_o the_o supper_n cast_v off_o the_o most_o of_o church-member_n from_o communion_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a we_o have_v never_o know_v of_o these_o exorbitance_n in_o the_o church_n which_o now_o we_o suffer_v under_o by_o the_o separation_n it_o be_v a_o easy_a thing_n for_o mr._n collins_n to_o say_v the_o argument_n be_v answer_v again_o and_o again_o not_o tell_v we_o by_o who_o nor_o how_o but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o better_o answer_v than_o he_o have_v do_v it_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o mr._n barksdel_n he_o must_v answer_v it_o again_o or_o else_o it_o must_v be_v unanswered_a and_o cleave_v close_o unto_o he_o still_o as_o such_o a_o church-rent_a that_o he_o will_v never_o free_v himself_o of_o unless_o he_o alter_v his_o judgement_n which_o he_o will_v find_v the_o ready_a way_n of_o the_o two_o in_o his_o 15._o pag._n to_o mr._n barksdel_n 10._o argument_n for_o free_a admission_n he_o put_v in_o three_o exception_n he_o grant_v child_n be_v baptize_v in_o their_o parent_n right_a but_o yet_o can_v see_v no_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v necessary_o be_v the_o immediate_a parent_n true_o for_o sometime_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o answ_n that_o both_o parent_n may_v be_v excommunicate_a or_o turn_v apostate_n in_o these_o case_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o otherwise_o be_v of_o the_o true_a christian_a church_n and_o faith_n the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a be_v in_o actual_a church-membership_a and_o baptize_v give_v as_o true_a a_o legal_a right_n to_o their_o child_n baptism_n as_o any_o other_o member_n what_o ever_o so_o long_o as_o their_o own_o right_n hold_v their_o child_n right_n do_v also_o and_o that_o immediate_o from_o they_o be_v to_o the_o sober_a unquestionable_a indeed_o if_o parent_n be_v never_o so_o real_o godly_a and_o unbaptise_v their_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n must_v either_o be_v derive_v from_o ancestor_n or_o else_o have_v none_o at_o all_o a_o visible_a peofession_n of_o faith_n in_o person_n baptize_v give_v a_o true_a right_n for_o their_o child_n to_o the_o sacramental_a seal_n and_o consequent_o for_o themselves_o to_o the_o same_o seal_n of_o the_o supper_n there_o be_v the_o same_o danger_n for_o the_o neglect_n of_o the_o passeover_n as_o for_o circumcision_n he_o say_v further_a there_o be_v no_o self-examination_n prerequire_v unto_o baptism_n but_o to_o the_o supper_n a_o man_n must_v
by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n baptise_v they_o as_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a body_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v legal_o put_v out_o of_o church_n communion_n at_o the_o pleasure_n of_o some_o few_o elder_n of_o themselves_o unless_o deligate_v so_o to_o act_v from_o a_o national_a assembly_n of_o presbyter_n though_o the_o right_n of_o discipline_n may_v be_v inherent_a in_o every_o lawful_a presbyter_n yet_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o be_v proper_a only_o unto_o those_o that_o be_v entrust_v therewith_o by_o the_o representatives_n of_o the_o whole_a irregular_a act_n and_o good_a end_n can_v stand_v together_o to_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v be_v not_o only_o dangerous_a but_o damnable_a the_o state_n of_o unregeneracy_n and_o personal_a unworthiness_n in_o the_o church_n do_v not_o bar_v any_o one_o from_o the_o sacrament_n nor_o do_v come_v within_o the_o verge_n of_o the_o church_n to_o judge_v of_o or_o correct_v in_o the_o least_o actual_a unworthiness_n persist_v in_o unto_o obstinacy_n be_v the_o only_a object_n of_o church_n censure_n of_o person_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o all_o actual_a unworthiness_n do_v not_o necessary_o run_v person_n upon_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o lord_n supper_n unworthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n there_o be_v no_o personal_a unworthiness_n in_o the_o church_n in_o a_o relative_a sense_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o sacrament_n or_o any_o uth_a ordinance_n but_o the_o careless_a neglect_n thereof_o be_v most_o unworthy_a and_o punishable_a not_o to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n be_v not_o to_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o common_a bread_n and_o the_o institute_v sign_n set_v a_o part_n by_o word_n and_o prayer_n to_o represent_v the_o death_n of_o christ_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n examination_n be_v a_o private_a duty_n to_o be_v perform_v between_o god_n and_o the_o conscience_n unto_o a_o profitable_a receive_n have_v a_o special_a eye_n to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o whole_a administration_n make_v their_o approach_n there_o according_o external_o at_o least_o there_o be_v a_o real_a difference_n to_o be_v put_v between_o the_o unregenerate_a christian_a and_o a_o unregenerate_a infidel_n the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n believer_n and_o unbeliever_n the_o confound_a of_o these_o have_v run_v we_o into_o brownism_n of_o late_a the_o whole_a church_n be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o be_v the_o immediate_a object_n of_o the_o promise_n but_o the_o world_n lie_v in_o wickedness_n and_o under_o wrath_n without_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o hope_n and_o god_n in_o the_o world_n the_o whole_a church_n be_v under_o all_o gospel_n observance_n the_o whole_a work_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o their_o conversion_n and_o salvation_n the_o pagan_a world_n for_o the_o most_o part_n never_o have_v the_o advantage_n of_o so_o much_o as_o any_o part_n of_o that_o work_n the_o gospel_n be_v hide_v to_o they_o that_o perish_v salvation_n be_v of_o the_o christian_a church_n but_o no_o salvation_n out_o of_o it_o how_o can_v they_o call_v on_o he_o in_o who_o they_o have_v not_o believe_v and_o how_o can_v they_o believe_v in_o he_o of_o who_o they_o have_v not_o hear_v and_o there_o be_v salvation_n in_o no_o other_o name_n whatsoever_o save_v only_o in_o jesus_n christ_n that_o the_o legal_o unclean_a be_v not_o so_o much_o debar_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o passeover_n as_o other_o sacrifice_n or_o spiritual_a observance_n in_o that_o church_n that_o the_o moral_a uncleanness_n then_o be_v no_o more_o bar_n to_o the_o passeover_n then_o unto_o all_o other_o observance_n in_o the_o church_n nay_o that_o be_v either_o punish_v by_o the_o judge_n according_a unto_o their_o judicial_a proceed_n or_o otherwise_o cleanse_v from_o it_o by_o a_o continual_a course_n of_o sacrifice_n and_o therefore_o no_o bar_n at_o all_o against_o any_o that_o no_o person_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n or_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a read_v of_o in_o scripture_n be_v ever_o debar_v the_o passeover_n or_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n and_o allow_v the_o benefit_n of_o all_o the_o other_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n hence_o i_o can_v but_o conceive_v that_o suspension_n from_o the_o sacrament_n alone_o usual_o call_v the_o minor_a excommunication_n be_v but_o a_o humane_a invention_n in_o the_o church_n more_o be_v require_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n then_o to_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o less_o be_v require_v to_o the_o holy_a supper_n of_o they_o that_o be_v church-member_n then_o of_o heathen_n unto_o baptism_n we_o must_v distinguish_v of_o real_a and_o relative_a personal_a worthiness_n the_o whole_a visible_a church_n not_o under_o church_n censure_n be_v personal_o worthy_a in_o a_o relative_a sense_n and_o hence_o there_o be_v no_o personal_a unworthiness_n in_o the_o church_n 2._o of_o believe_v in_o a_o large_a sense_n and_o of_o believe_v in_o a_o strict_a sense_n both_o to_o be_v account_v true_a believer_n in_o scripture_n sense_n the_o denomination_n of_o a_o believer_n be_v as_o well_o derive_v from_o a_o right_a object_n believe_v on_o as_o from_o the_o right_n and_o holiness_n of_o the_o subject_a believe_v 3._o of_o enter_v into_o the_o covenant_n and_o of_o continue_v in_o the_o covenant_n the_o former_a be_v proper_a for_o infidel_n the_o latter_a concern_v the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o all_o in_o the_o church_n have_v enter_v the_o gospel_n covenant_n and_o in_o the_o church_n we_o must_v distinguish_v of_o transgress_v the_o covenant_n and_o renounce_v the_o covenant_n of_o break_v and_o renew_v it_o and_o whosoever_o be_v enter_v into_o the_o covenant_n come_v under_o the_o whole_a administration_n thereof_o and_o can_v be_v disoblige_v from_o any_o observance_n thereof_o but_o by_o the_o bind_a power_n of_o the_o key_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n exercise_v juridical_o belove_a friend_n i_o have_v now_o give_v you_o a_o account_n of_o the_o most_o of_o my_o principle_n that_o i_o build_v upon_o and_o conclude_v free_a admission_n to_o the_o holy_a supper_n from_o and_o i_o judge_v they_o be_v such_o that_o have_v their_o rise_n from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o be_v rational_a deduction_n draw_v from_o thence_o which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o least_o loosen_v nor_o shake_v by_o mr._n collins_n nor_o any_o other_o of_o his_o judgement_n nor_o i_o think_v never_o will_v notwithstanding_o his_o forwardness_n of_o spirit_n in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o book_n to_o cry_v up_o a_o victory_n when_o he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o rout_v i_o in_o any_o one_o thing_n in_o all_o my_o book_n which_o argue_v a_o bold_a conceited_a vapour_a spirit_n a_o little_a too_o much_o therefore_o now_o in_o short_a i_o shall_v collect_v some_o of_o his_o main_a strength_n and_o magisterial_a principle_n make_v use_v of_o to_o undermine_v the_o foundation_n of_o i_o either_o 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