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A28901 A light from Christ leading unto Christ by the star of his word, or, The rich jewel of Christian divinity practically explained in the principles enlightening the children of God how to meet Christ in his ordinances and by strength from Christ to walk comfortably with Christ in the whole course of their lives ... by way of catechism or dialogue, not to answer verbatim or by wrote ... but each one according to his own sence and understanding of the question / by Immanuel Bourn of Ashover in the county of Derby, now preacher of the Gospel to the congregation in Sepulchres C.L. Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672. 1646 (1646) Wing B3855; ESTC R35779 307,398 743

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faith_n and_o all_o christ_n merit_n with_o the_o grace_n procure_v by_o christ_n in_o his_o death_n passion_n and_o resurrection_n ascention_n and_o all_o he_o have_v do_v for_o our_o good_a both_o for_o this_o and_o a_o better_a life_n all_o which_o be_v lively_o represent_v seal_v and_o communicate_v to_o the_o faithful_a in_o their_o soul_n according_a to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n hold_v forth_o and_o confirm_v in_o this_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n quest_n 4._o but_o since_o christ_n say_v of_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o of_o the_o wine_n this_o be_v my_o blood_n do_v not_o the_o faithful_a receive_v corporal_o and_o carnal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o sacrament_n ans_fw-fr no_o very_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v receive_v corporal_o and_o carnal_o with_o the_o hand_n and_o mouth_n of_o our_o body_n wratsoever_o the_o capernaite_n of_o old_a or_o the_o 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crucify_a dead_a and_o bury_v and_o rise_v again_o for_o we_o and_o our_o salvation_n and_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o there_o be_v glorify_v and_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n the_o father_n in_o power_n and_o glory_n where_o he_o shall_v remain_v make_v intercession_n for_o his_o church_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n when_o he_o shall_v come_v with_o his_o glorious_a angel_n in_o power_n to_o judge_v both_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a quest_n 7._o but_o how_o do_v we_o who_o be_v the_o saint_n receive_v and_o partake_v of_o this_o natural_a crucify_a and_o glorify_a body_n of_o christ_n ans_fw-fr we_o may_v be_v say_v to_o receive_v and_o partake_v of_o this_o natural_a body_n of_o christ_n real_o and_o true_o though_o not_o corporal_o and_o carnal_o by_o eat_v or_o receive_v it_o by_o the_o hand_n or_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n but_o 10.16_o 1_o cor_fw-la 10.16_o first_o spiritual_o and_o by_o faith_n believe_v on_o christ_n as_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n who_o give_v his_o natural_a body_n to_o be_v crucify_v and_o his_o blood_n to_o be_v shed_v for_o our_o sin_n 2.20_o gal._n 2.20_o second_o apply_v christ_n and_o all_o his_o merit_n by_o faith_n to_o our_o soul_n 6._o john_n 6.5_o 6._o three_o receive_v christ_n to_o dwell_v in_o we_o and_o so_o have_v a_o union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n as_o with_o our_o lord_n and_o head_n into_o who_o we_o be_v ingraft_v by_o faith_n four_o to_o partake_v of_o christ_n even_o the_o divine_a nature_n by_o our_o union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n which_o be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n john_n 6.63_o &_o 6.33_o etc._n etc._n &_o 10.18_o eph._n 1.17_o etc._n etc._n &_o 3.16_o etc._n etc._n 1_o cor._n 12.12_o etc._n etc._n &_o 10.16_o etc._n etc._n 2_o pet._n 1.3_o quest_n 8._o what_o be_v the_o second_o kind_n of_o body_n which_o
so_o seal_v promise_n of_o performance_n of_o covenant_n with_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n according_o of_o these_o i_o say_v 1._o the_o first_o be_v not_o act_v by_o the_o child_n for_o that_o can_v desire_v baptism_n 10._o mark_v 10._o but_o it_o be_v act_v by_o the_o parent_n who_o do_v present_v the_o child_n as_o those_o in_o the_o gospel_n and_o dedicate_v and_o consecrate_v it_o to_o god_n in_o christ_n and_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o child_n according_a to_o god_n covenant_n with_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n desire_v baptism_n for_o it_o that_o in_o and_o by_o baptism_n it_o may_v be_v admit_v to_o outward_a visible_a infant-membership_a in_o the_o church_n etc._n see_v the_o ancient_a form_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n reform_v etc._n etc._n 2._o again_o for_o the_o second_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n that_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v do_v by_o the_o infant_n when_o it_o usual_o baptised_a at_o a_o week_n old_a or_o thereabouts_o or_o it_o may_v be_v soon_o that_o profession_n of_o faith_n therefore_o have_v usual_o be_v make_v by_o the_o parent_n at_o least_o in_o a_o declaration_n of_o their_o assent_n and_o consent_n to_o the_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n and_o chief_n sum_n of_o the_o gospel_n three_o for_o the_o intimation_n of_o a_o covenant_n and_o covenant-union_n with_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n in_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n this_o the_o child_n in_o infancy_n can_v perform_v nor_o promise_v therefore_o it_o have_v be_v the_o church_n practice_n that_o the_o parent_n who_o duty_n proper_o it_o be_v or_o the_o pro-parent_n have_v according_a to_o their_o duty_n promise_v and_o engage_v themselves_o to_o do_v their_o best_a endeavour_n by_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n first_o to_o catechise_v and_o instruct_v their_o child_n in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o be_v hold_v forth_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n our_o saviour_n and_o to_o instruct_v they_o in_o that_o promise_n they_o do_v make_v when_o they_o do_v present_v they_o to_o be_v baptize_v to_o bring_v they_o up_o in_o the_o knowledge_n faith_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n according_a to_o the_o power_n and_o mean_v god_n in_o his_o good_a providence_n shall_v afford_v they_o second_o to_o inform_v they_o how_o they_o have_v likewise_o promise_v to_o do_v their_o best_a endeavour_n to_o instruct_v they_o in_o their_o duty_n when_o that_o they_o come_v to_o year_n and_o have_v gain_v knowledge_n and_o faith_n by_o god_n grace_n in_o the_o gospel_n to_o make_v profession_n of_o that_o faith_n and_o declare_v their_o subjection_n in_o their_o own_o person_n unto_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n three_o and_o to_o renew_v the_o covenant_n of_o which_o passive_o they_o receive_v the_o seal_n when_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n and_o to_o declare_v their_o renew_n of_o that_o covenant_n with_o god_n in_o christ_n when_o upon_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n or_o those_o in_o authority_n from_o christ_n they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n four_o and_o last_o to_o instruct_v they_o that_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o engage_v in_o baptism_n to_o this_o end_n among_o other_o in_o this_o or_o the_o like_a manner_n to_o enjoy_v a_o more_o full_a communion_n in_o and_o with_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o thus_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o set_v forth_o the_o manner_n and_o nature_n of_o infant_n outward_a entrance_n and_o solemn_a admission_n with_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n second_o there_o be_v another_o thing_n to_o be_v consider_v in_o and_o concern_v the_o child_n of_o believer_n when_o they_o be_v come_v to_o year_n of_o understanding_n and_o knowledge_n and_o that_o god_n have_v give_v they_o faith_n and_o holiness_n in_o some_o measure_n and_o ability_n to_o profess_v their_o faith_n and_o to_o declare_v their_o desire_n of_o 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