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A25573 An Answer to the Athenian Mercury, vol. 4, numb. 14, concerning infant-baptism with an account of divers queries sent by the author (and some others) to the Athenian Society, which they have not yet answered : to which are added, some remarks by way of reply to their Mercury on the same subject, num. 18, published Novemb. 28. 1691 (1691) Wing A3386; ESTC R15319 31,117 26

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for_o the_o practice_n of_o infant-baptism_n you_o answer_v the_o certain_a ground_n be_v from_o the_o scripture_n and_o first_o from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o commission_n matth._n 28._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d disciple_n all_o nation_n and_o then_o follow_v baptise_v they_o in_o the_o name_n etc._n etc._n from_o the_o order_n of_o which_o word_n you_o say_v infant_n be_v not_o exclude_v from_o baptism_n as_o be_v general_o believe_v by_o anabaptist_n a_o person_n may_v be_v baptise_a before_o he_o be_v teach_v for_o say_v you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mathetusate_n signify_v to_o disciple_v all_o nation_n personal_o and_o subjective_o be_v a_o general_a word_n it_o contain_v the_o other_o two_o that_o follow_v viz._n baptise_v and_o teach_v it_o be_v a_o word_n of_o the_o imperative_fw-it mode_n and_o the_o other_o two_o only_a participle_n so_o that_o the_o commission_n of_o it_o be_v that_o and_o the_o mode_n of_o it_o these_o but_o in_o the_o mode_n baptise_v they_o precede_v teach_v they_o to_o observe_v all_o thing_n etc._n etc._n reply_n because_o there_o be_v a_o teach_v follow_v baptism_n do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o sacred_a commission_n there_o be_v no_o teach_v indispensible_o to_o go_v before_o the_o person_n be_v baptize_v you_o have_v cause_n to_o tremble_v for_o trifle_v and_o base_o invert_v the_o order_n of_o the_o commission_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n what_o though_o the_o greek_a word_n discipliz_n or_o make_v disciple_n be_v a_o word_n of_o the_o imperative_fw-it mode_n o_o strange_a have_v you_o find_v it_o out_o will_v this_o do_v your_o business_n do_v it_o therefore_o contain_v the_o other_o two_o i_o ask_v you_o whether_o a_o man_n may_v not_o be_v make_v a_o disciple_n and_o not_o be_v baptise_a or_o be_v baptise_a and_o yet_o not_o be_v disciple_v matth._n 13.52_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d