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A13774 The true copy of tvvo letters, with their seuerall answeres, contayning the late apostasie of the Earle of Lauall, after his returne from Italy VVherein the principall poynts in controuersie with the papists, are learnedly and fully confuted. By D. Tilenus. Faythfully translated by D.D.S. Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Coligny, Guy Paul de, 1555-1586, attributed name.; D. D. S.; Laval, Antoine de, 1550-1631, attributed name. 1605 (1605) STC 24072; ESTC S118417 23,042 42

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great fame and his disgrace shall stand Inrol'd fer euer with a Brittaynes hand D. D. S. The Aduertisement of the Authour to the Christian Reader CVriosity and pleasure are two dangerous diseases and euery one apart is strong ynough to ouercome his patient how much more while being both together they conioyne to assayle him as it were agreeing both by the body and the soule the one ingendring himselfe within the spirit the other within the flesh each of them consuming and destroying the parts that breed it euen as the Worme destroyeth the Apple the Viper her mother They symbolize in many things and as two sister-like twinnes they attyre thēselues with one selfe same habit the definition of the one not much disagreeing frō the nature of the other So that to this end an ancient Father sayd That Adultery was nothing else but a curiosity of an other mans pleasure the one alienating the spirit of the patient from the knowledge of saluation and causing him to take appetite to those things wherof the ignorance is wisdome and the practice damnable maketh him the disciple of the father of lyes subiect to the Prince of darknesse the first inuenter of those mysteries of hell the other changeth his body which ought to be the member of Iesus Christ the temple of the holy Ghost into the member of an harlot and habitation of vncleane spirits both of them be bad very fit to corrupt youth to seduce it to the stewes of Antichrist where there is somewhat to please both those intising humours for what doth more resemble the curiosity of Magicke then the charmes of hallowed Agnus Dei of the Transsubstantiation to the characters of Soccrers then the marks of the beast deciphered in the book of Reuelation A great part of this deuillish Art bewrayeth itselfe by auricular confession imitating the forme of interrogatories registred in the decrees of Buchart Bishop of Wormes As touching the pleasure of the flesh where may a man find the exercise more free the excesse more enormous then within the great Babylon where the bodily lust hath no lesse sway then the spiritual Where haue bin inuented these sacred Canons which do not only with the Council of Toledo permit concubines but also commaund and ordaine the community of wiues with Plato and of goods with the Anabaptists Behold these two rocks which as wel as ambition couetousnes ouerwhelme the faith of many by lamentable shipwrack This is the course wherin lately the Earle of Laual ouerthrew himselfe to the great griefe of those who hoped hee would one day succeede to the piety and vertue of his predecessors but these qualities are gifts personall not hereditary as the name temporall goods After that he had languished a long time in these diseases possessing both his spirit his flesh there was also marked in him diuers symptomes and signes of an euil successe and among other things was perceiued a fact direct cōtrary to that which S. Luke describes for hauing past to change the ayre in Italy a country which is not thoght very good for those persons that be most wholsome and whole he did not refuse all kind of pleasures for his body besides made prouision of mortall receits for his soule buying at a high rate writings like to those which the disciples of the Apostles cast into the fire notwithstāding they were of great value so soone as they did imbrace the christiā faith at Ephesus by which purchase he declared very well to be more disposed to take place in the Temple of the great Diana of the Papists thē to haue preserued that wherwith it pleased God to haue honored him in his true Church who condēneth those detestable curiosities and in the end the Apostem beginning to grow gorge forth the venome contained in these his two letters in which he propoūdeth diuers questions not so much as to receiue light of his doubts wherin such diseases had tane away both his desire vnderstāding but because after a iust refusall of a verbal conferēce made vnto his vniust demaūds being addressed to those who vnderstood that resolutiō which he had already taken he had need thē of some other mask to end the Catastrophe of his Tragedy instead of extreme vnction funerall preparations of his religiō dead in his soule long time before dissembling in the mean time this spiritual death toward these who did their indeuour for his preseruatiō as appeares in matters of estate who cōceale for certaine dayes the death of their great Princes but seeing he could not so wel coūterfet the voyce of Iacob but that the hands of Esau did discouer him neither was he able himself to support any longer the pestilēt smel which his neutrality did breathe forth amōg the liuing the dead betwixt the preaching of the Gospel the Idolatrous masse but that he was forced to discouer his maske And hauing trāsported himselfe to the Couent of the Capucians in Paris he burted solemnly his religion accōpanied with many exorcismes abiurations confessions pentiencies and such ceremonies which did serue him no lesse to his obsequ●es thē did the desperate painting attiRes to Iesabel which she did take in the instāt houre she was to be cast Forth of the window to break her neck They had great desire to adorne the lamentable pompe of the poore young Earle by some pray which they thought to haue caught on our professors and to this effect after the refusall of the verball conference which he demanded the Iesuits had perswaded him to aduise in that same instant vpon the said doubts with diuers persons in diuers places hoping that in diuersity of stile they might incoūter certain differēces of beleeuing in those that should answer but not finding one iust subiect on our part to fal in any such inconuenience but rather to alienate him frō the wickednes of the corrupters of his youth We supposed nothing should diuert vs frō putting to light the obiections made on the one part the answers giuen on the other side to the end that cōFerring the one with the other euery one who hath eyes to see may vnderstād that those which wil not know that which is should imagine to thēselues to see that which they see not which be the two kinds of blindnes wherwith God by his iust iudgement doth punish those that forsake the spirit for the flesh the truth for vanity the light for darknes the Sauiour of the world for the son of perdition neuerthelesse we hope God willing that those who haue not much edified Christs Church by their life shall farre lesse ruine the same by their death seeing that their voluntary separation from our cōmunion doth no other thing then ease vs frō the necessary trouble of cutting thē off frō our society no more then the wind which driueth away the chaffe in the ayre easing thē which in the meane time are about to clense the floore
THE True Copy of tvvo Letters with their seuerall Answeres contayning the late Apostasie of the Earle of Lauall after his returne from Italy Wherein the principall poynts in controuersie with the Papists are learnedly and fully confuted By D. TILENVS Faythfully translated by D. D. S. LONDON Printed by Simon Stafford for Nathanael Butter and are to be sold at his shop in Paules Churchyard neere S. Austens Gate 1605. To the most Christian and mighty Monarch James by the grace of God King of great Brittayne Fraunce and Ireland Defender of the true ancient and Catholike Fayth MOst mighty and renowmed King behold I offer to your Maiesty these vnexpected and vntimeous letters wherein the fine and pure gold of Saba is mingled with the olde and corrupt drosse of Egypt to be tryde by the diuine touchstone of your sacred wisdome perswading myselfe that the reading of them shal not be so picasant to your Maiesties eares as the discontentment in beholding the sudden fall and miserable Apostasie of so great a personage and of my knowledge so greatly deuoted to your Maiesties seruice besides that great hope and expectation which was had throughout all France of him to be one day a helpe and comfort to Christs true Church there I may here very well compare him to the folly of the Lark which while it playes with the feather and stoopeth is caught in the Fowlers net so he dallying in his youth prime of yeres being deceyued by the beautifull feathers glasses of pleasant Italy was caught by the charming intisemēts of those Antichristian Vipers with whose venome being once stung hard was it to find such medicine for the cure of so dāgerous a discase not doubting in this mean time but as your Maiesty would be glad to heare of his healing and rising againe to the imbracing of the truth from whence he fell so likewise on the other part I am fully perswaded that your Maiesties wonted care shall continue in this your newe Monarchy that no person of any quality and marke hereafter shall bee licenced to trauell especially to Spaine Italy places most dangerous for practising of treasons betraying of their own soules yea the liues of their owne Kings and countries but with such a strict caueat that if they continue not constant in the profession of the truth wherin they haue bin taught that at their returne They shal expect the rigor of your lawes to be executed against them more seuerely then heretofore haue bin lest by their ouersight and daily increase they may not onely indanger Christes Church in your dominiōs but also your Maiesties person state which God forbid should euer come to passe in this our age or in any other following I craue humble pardon that remēbers other mens matters to your Maiesty in forgetting my self for charity should begin at her selfe praying in all submission that this small mite of mine may be receyued with that accustomed fauour which sometime I inioyed more liberally as your Maiesty vseth to accept the rich treasures of others dayly offered to your Maiesty and this to bee but the earnest of a better worke to follow and a remembrance of my dutifull affection humbly submitting my selfe and this my rude Translation to the royal most learned censure of your Maiesty who can far better iudge therof then I haue deliuered it I make an end beseeching the Almighty King of Kings long to preserue your Maiesties life to prosper all your good actions and godly enterprises to his glory to the comfort and good of the Church and Common-wealth Your Maiesties most humble and loyall Seruant D. D. S. The Translator NO man Christian Reader can serue two masters saith our Sauiour Christ for the cōfort that is of God is sweet and delectable but this is not for al men but for those only which despise the vanities of this world It is impossible to taste of God and his pleasures to loue disordinately the things of this life All men would inioy gladly the sweet conuersatiō of our Lord but few there be that will forgoe their owne worldly desires and willingly despise their earthly contentmēts they desire greatly to haue the inward comfort of the soule but withall they desire to satisfy their own extraordinary lusts and appetites This may well appeare in the Apostasy of this Noble man very godly carefully broght vp in his tender yeeres in the true Religion who casting off all true feare of God loue of true Religion and the great honour commendations that his house predecessors had for professing maintaining the same against the enemies therof suffering himselfe in the prime of his yeres with pride and preiudice two of his chiefe guides into Italy to be bereft of that precious inestimable pearle of Christs verity for pride insinuating her selfe crept into his soule a most dangerous ghest taking once possession is very hard to be expelled againe Preiudice on the other part so great an enemy to the truth that it makes the mind vncapable of it for if in his heart he had laid a sure groūd all his enemies had not shaken it much lesse ouer thrown his Religion Ye see be loued what it is to serue two masters as he would haue done I compare him vnto those who kindles a fire vnder greene wood and leaues it so soone as it begins to flame leauing off a good beginning for want of seconding it with a suteable proceeding but rather lazily cowardly being ouercome with the pleasures of the coūtry and the curiosity of his young and vayne conceits forgetting the seruice of God wherin he had liued before betook him to the seruice of Antichrist with-drew himselfe as with a discontented mind from the company of his chiefe Gouernour both graue wise and godly giuing himselfe ouer to the company of those deuouring Serpents who neuer left him vntil he was broght into the endlesse Laborinth of their superstitious Idolatry made his soule drunk with the new wine of the cup of the Beast I beseech you therefore all that loue your owne saluation to take here your example and eschue the company of the vngodly wicked but especially such as in the habits of simple Lambs come secretly as Wolues to infect and deuoure your soules vnder the pretence of holinesse and deuotion and so I bid you farewell The Translator to D. Tilenus his ancient acquaintance the Authour hereof THou true TILENVS to thy Lord LAVALL And faithfull Teacher of his tender yeeres Thy learning great and pietie appeares By diuine answeres to repaire his fall Thy truth doth shine his vntruth to deface Thy heauenly dewe distilleth from aboue To heale his soule whom thou so deare didst loue And leadeth him the way to sauing grace But if so be thy counsell hee neglect Yet thousand eyes shall read thy leaues and lindes And shall be scanned by a thousand mindes With endlesse praise thy Trophees to erect Where your