Selected quad for the lemma: christian_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
christian_n	apostle_n	church_n	creed_n	1,331	5	10.2664	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15420	A retection, or discouerie of a false detection containing a true defence of two bookes, intituled, Synopsis papismi, and Tetrastylon papisticum, together with the author of them, against diuers pretended vntruths, contradictions, falsification of authors, corruptions of Scripture, obiected against the said bookes in a certaine libell lately published. Wherein the vniust accusations of the libeller, his sophisticall cauils, and vncharitable slaunders are displayed.	Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621.	1603 (1603)	STC 25694; ESTC S114436	136,184	296

is read obtulit he offered Andrad in 4. defension 2. Bellarmine thus alleageth out of the canon of the Masse Quod tibi obtulit summus tuus sacerdos Melchisedech Which thy high Priest Melchisedech offered vnto thee libr. 1. de Miss cap. 6. 3. The Rhemists affirme that Melchisedech did offer in bread and wine Annot. in Heb. sect 8. It is false therefore that none of them reade obtulit be offered Secondly Bellarmine though he reade protulit he brought foorth yet vpon the vse of that word he groundeth the sacrifice of bread and wine and saith that it is idem quod offerre all one as to say offer the word 〈◊〉 iatsah signifieth to bring foorth yet it is alwaies saith he in the Scripture restrained to sacrifice lib. 1. de Miss c. 6. And againe wherefore with these words saith he brought foorth bread and wine are those ioyned and he was a Priest of the most high God Nisi vt intelligeremus panē vinum à Melchisedecho prolatum vt offerretur Deo but that wee should vnderstand bread and wine to haue been brought foorth of Melchisedech to be offered to God Let any indifferent man now iudge whether Bellarmine doth not by force of that word which is the same as he saith as to offer and the Rhemists which say Melchisedech offered in bread and wine establish the sacrifice of the Masse Both these lies then and vntruths are forged out of the Detectors malicious braine and shaped in his vncharitable conceit so that we may say to him in Augustines words Homini homo falsus docendus fallax cauendus prius magistrum bonum posterius discipulum cautum desyderat A false man is to be instructed a deceitfull to be auoided the first requireth a good teacher the latter a warie learner Academic 2. 5. Though I be out of hope to reforme this false slaunderer yet I trust the reader will take heede of such a deceiuer The third Slaunder SYnops. p. 63. of the latter edition because it is affirmed that the Communion in one kind was forged and inuented and decreed in the Councell of Constance not aboue two hundred yeeres agoe A grosse vntruth saith the Detector because both Thomas Aquinas and Alexander Hales long before allow the Communion vnder one kind and the same Councell of Constance saith it was consuetudo ab ecclesia diutissimè obseruata a custome long obserued of the Church The Defence FIrst who seeth not the cauilling spirit of this Libeller that hunteth after syllables and catcheth after words the defender was not ignorant that this superstitious vse of receiuing in one kinde was in hammering and deuising before the Councell of Constance but that it then onely began to be enforced and decreed as necessarie to be obserued of all that no Priest vnder paine of excommunication should minister vnder both kinds to the people so that the forging inuenting decreeing spoken of is vnderstood of the necessitie of so receiuing whereas it was free before which was first inuented forged and imposed by that Councell Secondly that no such thing was generally obserued before it is euident Concil Matisconens 2. can 4. celebrate about anno 600. and Concil Vormatiens can 31. anno 800. and Concil Bracarens 3. can 1. anno 670. or thereabout all which Councels allow the Communion vnder both kinds as they are alleaged Synops. pag. 560. to the which I referre the reader Thirdly Alexander Hales cited by the Libeller is alleaged by Bellarmine to bee of a contrarie iudgemēt to the rest of the Schoolmen whose opinion was that more spiritual fruite was receiued by communicating vnder both kinds then in one in 4. part sum qu. 53. memb 1. Fourthly what though this superstition might begin before the Councell of Constance yet it is cleere that it was but an humane inuention which is the thing the Defender would shew and this may appeare by the confession of the Councell it selfe that non obstante notwithstanding Christ did minister the Sacrament vnder both kindes of bread and wine c. similiter licet in primitiua ecclesia c. and likewise though in the Primitiue church this Sacramēt were receiued of the faithfull vnder both kinds yet for all this it was decreed that this custome was rationabiliter introducta brought in vpon good reason I say then with Augustine to this shamelesse gainsayer that laboureth to conquer with lies Non bonum est homini hominem vincere sed bonum est homini vt eum veritas vincat volentem quia malum est homini vt eum veritas vincat inuitum It is not good for a man to ouercome a man but it is good for a man willingly to giue place to the truth for it is euil for a man against his will to be ouercome of the truth epistol 174. So it were better for this slaunderer to be ouercome of the truth and to confesse his fault then to seeke to ouercome with li●s The fourth Slaunder SYnops. pag. 6● the name Christian was vsed in the Apostles time and by the Apostles themselues allowed but it is not certaine that the name Catholike came from the Apostles This the Libeller calleth a certaine vntruth and a lie because in the Apostles Creede we are taught to beleeue the holie Catholike Church and S. Iames Epistle hath the title of Catholike Epistle The Defence FIrst though it might be proued that the Apostles were the authors of the name Catholike yet is it not so certaine as that the name Christian came from them because this is directly expressed in scripture Act. 11. vers 26. The disciples of Antioch were the first that were called Christians but for the name Catholike no such proofe out of Scripture can be alleaged Wherefore in a charitable construction the words may be taken comparatiuely that one is not so certaine as the other The Creed called the Apostles is no Scripture but collected out of it and agreeable to it neither is it certaine whether it were made by the Apostles as it may appeare by that which Cyprian writeth of the article of the descension Sciendum est quod in Ecclesiae Romanae symbolo non habetur additum c. It is to be knowne that in the symbole of the church of Rome it is not added he descended into hell nor in the Churches of the East Cyprian in symbol If then the Apostles by their Apostolicall authoritie had set foorth the Creed it had been great presumption afterward to haue added vnto it Pacianus also Epistol ad Symprosian thus saith Sed sub Apostolis c. But thou wilt say vnder the Apostles no man was called Catholike admit it was so yet graunt this when after the Apostles there were heresies c. did not the Apostolike people require their surname whereby they might distinguish the vnitie of the incorrupt people c. Pacianus seemeth here to grant that the surname Catholike was not vsed in the Apostles time let