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A09869 Want of charitie iustly charged, on all such Romanists, as dare (without truth or modesty) affirme, that Protestancie destroyeth salvation in answer to a late popish pamphlet intituled Charity mistaken &c. / by Christopher Potter ... Potter, Christopher, 1591-1646. 1633 (1633) STC 20135.3; ESTC S4420 135,510 274

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qu. 2. punct 4. in fin Articuli fidei in Symbolo contenti sunt veluti prima principia fidei Christianae in quibus continetur summa Euangelicae doctrinae quam omnes tenenrur explicitè credere Ita judicant Sancti Patres quum affirmant ab Apostolis compositum esse illud Symbolum fidei ur omnes haberent brevem summam corum quae sunt credenda sparsim continentur in Scripturis Gregory of Valence The Articles of the Creed are the first principles of Christian doctrine wherein the summe of the Gospell is comprized which all are bound expressely to beleive So say the Ancient Fathers that this Creed was framed by the Apostles to the end that all Christians might have a short abridgement of those things that must be beleeved f Vinc. Filiucius Moral Quaest Tract 22. c. 2. num 34. Nulla brevior accommodatior assignari potest regula in Ecclesia unde scire possunt fideles quaenam credenda sint populo Christiano explicitè eâ quae continetur in Symbolo cujus Articuli sunt prima rudimenta fidei Vincentius Filiucius There cannot be assigned a shorter and fitter rule of faith in the Church by which Christian people may be instructed in matters to be explicitely beleived then that which is contained in the Apostles Creed the Articles whereof are the first rudiments of our faith g Puteanus in 2. 2. Qu. 2. Art 3. Dub. ult Concl. ult Ideo Symbolum hoc fuit ab Apostolis compositum ut Christiani formam aliquam haberent quâ possent se Catholicos profiteri Ita D. Th. art 5. qu. hujus Puteanus late professor at Tholouse This Creed was made by the Apostles purposely that Christians might by this forme of faith professe themselves to be truly Catholiques as Aquinas here saith The great Cardinall of France h Instruction du Chrestien Leçon premiere Le Symbole des Apostres est le sommaire l'abbregé qu' ils ont faict de la foy necessaire au Chrestien Ces saincts personnages ayant receu commandement de Jesus Christ de s' espandre par tout le monde pour y prescher l'Evangile y planterla foy de toutes parts estimerent qu'il estoit du tout necessaire de reduire en abbregé ce que tout Chrestien doit sçavoir à fin que separiez en diverses parties du monde i●● preschassent vne mesme chose ce d'autant plus aisé à retenir qu' elle seroit reduitte à peu Pour cét effect ils appellerent cét abbregé Symbole qui signifie marque signe parce qu' il leur servoit de marque pour distinguer les vrays Chrestiens qui l'embrassoient des infidelles quila rejettoient Richelieu in his Homelies published for the instruction of his Diocesse The Apostles Creed is the abridgement of that faith which is necessary for a Christian For those holy persons being by the commandement of Iesus Christ to disperse themselves over the world and in all parts by preaching the Gospell to plant the faith esteemed it very necessary to reduce into a short summe all that which Christians ought to know and believe to the end that being separated in diverse quarters of the earth they might all jointly preach one and the same faith in a forme short and briefe that it might be the better remembred Therefore they called this abridgemēt the Symbole that is a marke or signe which might serve to distinguish true Christians which embraced it from Infidels and misbeleevers It were easie to multiply testimonies to this effect out of their late ancient Schoole-Doctors if it were not tedious All agree that the Creed briefly comprehends all fundamentall principles or rudiments of faith that it is a distinctive note or Character severing Orthodox beleevers from Infidels and Heretiques that it is a full perfect and sufficient summary of the Catholique faith And their judgement herein seemes full of reason For how can it be necessary for any Christian to haue more in his Creed then the Apostles had and the Church of their times May the Church of after ages make the narrow way to heaven narrower then our Saviour left it Shall it be a fault to streiten and encomber the Kings high way with publique nuisances and is it lawfull by adding new Articles to the faith to retrench any thing from the latitude of the King of Heavens high way to eternall happinesse The yoke of Christ which he said was easie may it justly be made heavier by the Governours of the Church in after ages The Apostles professe they revealed to the Church the i Act. 20. 27. whole Counsell of God keeping backe nothing needfull for our salvation what tyranny then to impose any new unnecessary matters on the faith of Christians especially as the late Popes have done under that high commanding forme Qui non crediderit damnabitur If this may be done why then did our Saviour reprehend the Pharisees so sharpely for k Mat. 23. 4. binding heavy burdens and laying them upon mens shoulders And why did he teach them that in l Mat. 15. 30. vaine they worshipped God teaching for doctrines mens traditions And why did the Apostles call it a m Act. 15. 10. tempting of God to lay those things upon the neckes of Christians that were not necessary It is true to guard the depositum committed to her charge and to defend it and every part of it from the incursion of heretiques and to maintain the ancient sence of it against their new and adulterate glosses the Church hath authority and hereto shall not faile of assistance But to adde to it is high presumption almost as great as to detract from it All that can be replyed to this discourse is this that the whole faith of those times is not contain'd in the Apostles Creed which is all one as if a man should say This is not the Apostles Creed but a part of it For the Apostles and the Church of their times in giving it this name doe they not plainly tell us that the summe and substance of their Credenda is comprized in it For to call it Creed and to leave out of it any necessary Article of faith what had it been but to deceive the world The Ancient Church appointing her Infants to be instructed for matter of beleefe n De consecrdist 4. can Ante viginti Symbolum Baptizandos Nonliceat onely in the Creed admitting her Catechumens upō their professiō of the Creed to baptisme into the nūber of the faithfull exacting of strangers the same profession before they could be received into the Cōmunion of Catholiques did she not by all this evidently declare her judgement that the profession of this Creed and these Articles alone was an absolute profession of the Catholique faith Nay whereas the laudable custome of the Catholique Church required that each new o Marcus Ephesius in Concil Florent Sess
but beleeued not that it was necessarie and therefore did not proceed rashly and peremptorily to censure others but left them to their libertie and finally he had a teachable and tractable minde willing to alter his Opinion if hee had seene reason and to yeeld to Truth if it had beene cleared vnto him or if hee had liued to heare the judgement of the Nicene Fathers And this good disposition kept him from falling further into such errours as the pride and obstinacy of the Donatists plunged them For contrarily the Donatists whilest they suriously contended for one false Opiniō fell by degrees into many more and worse Such as were these doctrines of theirs That u Aug. Ep. 167. De Bap. tismo dicere solent tunc esse verum Baptismum Christi cum ab homine justo datur vide evnd de vnit Ecclesiae cap. 21. the efficacy of Sacraments depends on the dignity of the Minister that being no true Baptisme which is not giuen by a just man That w Aug. cont Epist Parmen lib. 3. Passim the Church ought not to tolerate evill persons in her communion That communion with such persons pollutes and prophanes the Church and makes it no Church That therefore x Aug. de Haer. ad Quodvultd cap. 69. Donatistae pertinaci dissensione in Haeresin Schisma verterunt tanquam Ecclesia Christi propter crimina Caeciliani seu vera seu quod magis judicibus apparuit falsa de toto terrarum orbe penerit vbi futura promissa est atque in Africa Donati parte remanserit in aliis rerrarum partibus quasi contagione communionis extincta all the Churches of the World were perished because they communicated with Caecilianus Bishop of Carthage whom they accused y Vide Gesta purgationis Faelicis Opt. lib. 1. falsely too to haue beene ordained by such as were Traditors or had giuen vp the Bible to bee burn't in times of persecution Consequently z Aug. de vnit Eccl. cap. 13. perijsse dicunt de caetero mundo Ecclesiam in parte Donati in sola Africâ remansisse ibi mox totus mundus inquiunt apostatavit nos autem in Ecclesia remansimus iterum suam paucitatem commendare conantur in sanctis Ecclesiae multitudinem toto orbe diffusam blasphemare non cessant that the Church remained only with them in the part of Donatus and that themselues were the only Christians Now to omit the rest this last errour was in the matter and nature of it properly Hereticall against that Article of the Creed wherein we professe to beleeue the holy Catholique Church For by limiting the Church only to such as were of their owne communion in Africa Rome or elsewhere excluding all others they denied the Church to be Catholique And when they were pressed with this absurdity by the Catholiques for a shift they divised a new and vaine interpretation of the Word Catholique saying that the Church was called Catholique a Aug. Ep. 48. ad Vincentium Acutum aliquid videris dicere cùm Catholicae nomen non ex totius orbis communione interpretaris sed ex observatione omnium praeceptorum divinorum omnium Sacramentorum Brevic. Collat. cum Donatistis die 3. cap. 2. Donatistae responderunt non Catholicum nomen ex Vniversitate gentium sed ex plenitudine Sacramentorum institutum Et Gaudentius Donatista Coll. 3. cap. 102. Hoc est Catholicum nomen quod Sacramentis plenum est quod perfectum quod immaculatum not because it is spred over the whole World or to import the Vniversality of Nations but because their Church retained all the Sacraments and observed all Gods Commandements and was perfect and unspotted This perverse confining of the Catholique Church was the principall Heresy of the Donatists which the Catholique Writers Optatus St Austin and others did most of all detest and oppose in them And in their disputations of this point they convince their Adversaries not by any authority or definitions of the Church as our Mistaker pretends but by testimonies of Scripture as hath beene obserued before b Aug. Collat Carth 3. cap. 187. Sola divina testimonia ad Ecclesiam demonstrandam sufficient mox Sola divina loquatue authoritas sola Dei Scriptura cui vtrique subdimur in medium proferatur Et ib. cap. 155. volumus optamus negotium Ecclesiae non nisi divinis eloquijs terminare Id. de vnit Eccl. cap. 3. Non audiamus haec dico haec dicis sed audiamus Haec dicit Dominus sunt libri Dominici ibi quaeramus Ecclesiam ibi discutiamus causam nostram Auferantur illa de medio quae adversus nos invicem non ex divinis Canonicis Libris sed aliunde recitamus fic passim and every where summon them to the judgement of Scripture alone St Austin purposely debates this matter with them in his Treatise de unitate Ecclesiae and therein professes almost in each page that he will waue all other reasons or arguments and confute them only by Scriptures And that not by Scriptures c Aug. de vnit Eccl. cap. 5. Illa interim sunt seponenda quae in Scripturis obscurè sunt posita figurarum velaminibus involuta secundum nos secundum illos possunt interpretari anted iam praedico propono vt quaecunque aperta manifesta eligamus mox Prorsus quae alicuius interpretationis indigent seponamus vide c. 24. darke or doubtfull but so d Aug. ib. c. 19. Aliquid proferte quod non contra vos veriùs interpretetur quod interprete omninò non egeat Sicut non eget interprete in semine tuo benedicentur omnes Sicut non eget interprete terra tua orbis terrarum Sicut non eget cap. 20. Nullo interprete indigent Canonicarum Scripturarum testimonia quae commendant Ecclesiam in totius orbis communione Et cap. 25. Ostendant Donatistae aliqua manifesta de Canonicis libris testimonia cap. 4. notissimis apertissimis testimonijs contradicunt cap. 15. Manifestissimis testimonijs asservimus Ecclesiam toto orbe diffusam cleare that they need not to be expounded so full and expresse that they cannot be avoided or eluded Briefly such as the Donatists could not resist without wilfull e Aug. vbi supra cap. 1. De Scripturis sanctisita sunt omnia prolata probata vt ea negare non possit nisi qui illarum Scripturarum inimicum se esse profitetur ib cap. 7. Quis tam surdus tàm demens tàm mente caecus vt his tam evidentibus testimonijs obloquatur Sed ad manifestiora veniamus ib. cap. 11. Istae divinae voces de vniversa Ecclesia ita manifestae sunt vt contra eas nisi Haereticè animosa perversitate caeco furore latrare non possint malice and blindnesse Now the point which hee proues by so many cleare and full Scriptures is this that the
h Replique liur 1. chap. 10. Perron calls the faith of adherence or non-repugnance may suffice to wit an humble preparation of minde to beleeve all or any thing revealed in Scripture when it is sufficiently cleared By which virtuall faith an erring person may beleeve the truth contrary to his owne error inasmuch as he yeelds his assent implicitely to that Scripture which containes the truth and overthrowes his errour though yet he understand it not This maine distinction of doctrines whereof we speak hath expresse ground in the Scriptures of the N. Testament Therein the Church of Christ is often called i 1. Tim. 3. 15. 1. Pet. 2. 5. Heb. 3. 5. 6. the Spirituall house of God The foundation of this house is either reall personall or dogmaticall and doctrinall The Reall foundation is k 1. Cor. 3. 11. Eph. 2. 20. Christ the Dogmaticall are l Matt. 16. 16. 18. Heb. 6. 1. those grand and capitall doctrines which make up our faith in Christ that is that m Tit. 1. 4. common faith which is n 2 Pet. 1. 1. alike precious in all beeing one and the same in the highest Apostle and the meanest beleever which the Apostle o Heb. 5. 12. elsewhere calls the first principles of the oracles of God and the p 2. Tim. ● 13. forme of sound words These hold the place of the common foundation in which all Christians must be grounded The materialls laid upon this foundation whether they be sound or unsound are named by S. Paul q 1. Cor. 3. 12. super structions which are conclusions either in truth or in appearance deducible from those principles Concerning all which superstructures the generall rule is that the more neere they are to the foundation of so much greater importance be the truthes and so much more perilous be the errors as againe the further they are removed off the lesse necessary doth the knowledge of such verities prove to be and the swarving from the truth lesse dangerous It is cleere then that some points are fundamentall others not so But here all Protestants are defied by the Mistaker not onely particulars but in corps their Colledges Universities all or any of them dared to give him in a list or Catalogue of fundamentall points So high a Challenge in a subject of this nature might better have beseemed his betters some Cardinall rather then a * See Char. Mist pag. 1. Cavallier It seems the man thinks excellently of his owne learning and judgement and that conceit fills him with this courage But his strength is not answerable They that have tried it say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The prudent Vlysses in r Iliad ss 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Et ad Ther 's 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Homer gave good counsell to some busie persons that were forward to meddle in matters beyond their Spheere the Mistaker stands in neede of it and may do well to follow it By fundamentall points of faith for of them alone the Mistaker expresly speakes in this discourse we understand as hath been noted not the necessarie duties of Charity which are comprehended in the Decalogue nor the necessarie acts of hope contained in the Lords prayer there beeing the same object both of our prayers and of our hope though both these vertues of Charity and Hope are fundamentally necessary to the salvation of Christians but we meane those Prime and Capitall doctrines of our Religion which make up the holy Catholique and Apostolique faith once for all delivered to the Saints which faith is the same which Jude 3. the Church received from the Apostles the Apostles from Christ Christ from God as Tertullian speakes that faith which essentially constitutes a true Church and a true Christian These fundamentalls are all contained in the rule of faith which rule being cleerely but diffusedly set downe in the Scriptures hath been afterwards summed up and contracted into the Apostles Creed either by the Apostles themselves or by the Church of their times from them This Creed taken in a Catholique sence that is as it was further opened and explaned in some parts by occasion of emergent Heresies in the other Catholique Creeds of Nice Constantinople Ephesus Chalcedon and Athanasius is said generally by the Schoolemen and Fathers to comprehend a perfect Catalogue of fundamentall truths and to imply a full rejection of fundamentall heresies and hath beene received by Orthodox Christians of all ages and places as an absolute summary of the Christian faith For proof wherof we will first argue ad hominem and teach the Mistaker how to esteeme of his Creed out of his own Masters whom he will not distrust or gainsay Begin with the a Concil Trident Sess 3. Symbolum Apostolorum est principium illud in quo omnes qui fidem Christi profitentur necessariò conveniunt ac fundamentum Ecclesiae firmum ac unicum Councell of Trent The Apostles Creed is that principle wherein all that professe the faith of Christ do necessarily agree that being the firme and onely foundation of the Church The b Catec Trident pag. 13. ac 14. Apostoli hanc Christianae fidei ac spei formulam composuerunt veritatis summa ac fundamentum primò ac necessariò omnibus credendum Catechisme of Trent to the same pupose The Apostles composed this profession of Christian faith and hope as a summary and foundation of that truth which is necessarily to be beleived of all c Azor. par 1. lib. 8. cap. 5. Symbolum Aposto●orum est brevis fidei complexio ac summa omniū credendorum veluti nota quaedam signum quo Christiani homines ab impiis infidelibus qui vel nullam vel non rectam Christi fidem profitentur discernendi ac internoscendi sunt Huic Symbolo add●ta sunt alia duo Nicaenum Athanasianum ad uberiorem explicationem fidei Azorius This Creed briefly comprehends the faith and all things to be beleived is as it were a signe or cognisance whereby Christian men are differenced from the ungodly and misbeleivers who have either no faith at all or hold not the right faith To this the other Creeds of Nice and Athanasius were added onely for further explanation d Jacob. Gordon Hunt Controv 2. cap. 10. num 10. Regula fidei continetur expressè in Symbolo Apostolorum in quo continentur omnia prima fundamenta fidei Neque enim adeò obliviosi fuerunt Apostoli post acceptum Spiritum S. ut in Symbolo fidei quod omnibus credendum tradiderunt praetermitterēt primum praecipuum fidei fundamentum Huntley a Scottish Iesuite The rule of faith is expressely contained in the Apostles Creed wherein are contained all the prime foundations of faith For the Apostles were not so forgetfull as to omit any fundamentall point in that Creed which they delivered to be beleived by all Christians e Greg. de Val. in 2. 2. disp 1.
but a man before distempered after sound and healthy In the prime grounds or principles of Christian Religion wee haue not forsaken the Church of Rome wee leaue her onely in her intolerable errors and abuses Shee hath mingled with Gods Bread her owne sowre leauen and with good milke some drammes of poison We haue cast out onely this poison and leauen and feed Gods people with the true bread of life and the sincere milk of his word Where the late Popes wander in by-paths we leaue them that wee may more safely walke with the old good Bishops of Rome in the old and good way And in the issue that which distinguishes a true Papist from a true Protestant is no more but this the former will needs be a Romane the latter only a Catholique The difference at this day betweene the Reformed part of the Westerne Church and the Romane consists in certaine points which they of Rome hold for important and necessary articles of the Christian faith which the Protestants cannot beleeue or receiue for such Whereas contrarily the things which the Protestants beleeue on their part and wherein they b Voiez Vray vsage des Peres par Iean Daillé Ch. 1. iudge the life and substance of Religion to be comprized are most if not all of them so evidently and indisputably true that their Adversaries themselues doe avow and receiue them as well as they For they are verities cleerely founded vpon Scripture expressely acknowledged by all Ancient Councells and Doctors of the Catholique Church summarily deliuered in their Symboles or Creeds vnanimously receaued by the most part of Christians that haue ever beene in the world Such are the verities which make vp the faith of Protestants and which are c Semper vbique ab omnibus credita Lirin properly Catholique hauing carried the consent of all ages and Parts of the Church vniversall And if all other Christians could be content to keepe within these generall bounds d Erasm Epist ded ad Arch. Warhamum Praefat. 2. Tomo Epift. S. Hieron speaking of the Apostles Creed faith Nunquam suit sincer or castiorque Christiana fides quàm cùm vnoillo eoque breuissiino Symbolo contentus esset Orbis Vide eundem in Praefat. ad Hilar. in Paracles ad Lector ante Edit N. T. an 1519. Bafil the wofull Schismes and ruptures of Christendome worthy to be lamented with teares of bloud might the more easily bee healed and all the Disciples of the Prince of peace blessedly vnited in an holy linke of Faith and Charity of Loue and Communion The piety and wisdome of Antiquity did thinke fittest to walke in this latitude and cleerely rested satisfied with the simplicity of such a Catholique confession But no bounds of reason could ever limit the vnbounded extravagancies and excesses of the Court of Rome That body of faith which the Ancients thought complete enough to them seemes defectiue Therefore they haue adjoyned to that old Body many new Articles And to those twelue which the Apostles in their Creed esteemed a sufficient summary of wholsome doctrine they haue added many more in their new Romane Creed Such are for instance their Apocryphall Scriptures and vnwritten dogmaticall Traditions their Transubstantiation and dry Communion their Purgatory Invocation of Saints Worship of Images Latine Service traffique of Indulgences and shortly all the other new Doctrines and Decrees canonized in their late Synod of Trent These and the like very vaine imaginations our Mistaker calls the prime and maine points of Christian Religion Let him but change Christian Religion as his faction hath done into the Romane faith and he saies true hee is not mistaken Vpon these and the like new Articles is all the contestation betweene the Romanists and Protestants while they are obtruded on the one side as vndoubted verities and on the other side reiected as humane inventions cunningly devised to advance ambition and avarice without any solid ground or countenance of Scripture Reason or Antiquitie The most necessary and fundamentall truths which constitute a Church are on both sides vnquestioned and for that reason e Iunius lib. de Eccl. cap. 17. Falluntur qui Ecclesiam negant quia Papatus in eâ est D. Rain Thes 5. negat tantùm esse Catholicam vel sanum ejus membrum See the iudgment of many other of our writers in the Advertisement annexed to the Old Religion by the Reverend Bishop of Exeter The very Anabaptists grant it Fr. Johnson in his Christian plea pag. 123. learned Protestants yeeld them the name and substance of a Christian Church though extreamely f August de Donatistis Nonideo se putent sanos quia dicimus eos habere aliquid sanum De Bapt. contra Donat. lib. 1. cap. 8. defiled with horrible errors and corruptions And if they had fairely propounded their new opinions to bee discussed by the learned with reservation of liberty in iudgement conscience to themselues and others they had erred much more tolerably and much lesse disturbed the peace of the Church But they are farre from this modesty and moderation With vnsufferable tyranny the prevailing faction amongst them presses them vpon all Christians as matters of faith not only of opinion not as disputable problemes but as necessary truths hauing both canonized them in their Councell of Trent with a curse against all gaine-sayers and put them in their Creed by Pope Pius the fourth who hath obliged the whole Clergy of Rome to affirme that Creed by their subscription and solemne oath obliging also all Christians to beleeue it vnder paine of damnation In the latter ages before the Reformation though the Court of Rome by cunning and violence had subdued many noble parts of Christendome vnder her yoake yet the servitude of the Church and her misery was somewhat more supportable because these base and pernicious adjections were not yet the publique decisions or tenets of any Church but only the private conceits of the domineering faction Yet still the best learned and g Notissimae sunt querelae Bernardi Occhami Marsilis Clemangis Alvari Gersonis c. de corrupto Ecclesiae statu vide Espenc in Tit. 1. Digress ● conscientious of Europe called as loud as they could or durst for a Reformation Rome heard their complaints and h Adrian 6. PP Instruct pro Franc Cheregato in Fascic ror exper pag. 173. Sci●nus in hac sanctá sede aliquot jam annis multa abominanda fuisse abusus in spiritualibus excessus in mandatis omnia denique in perversum mutata Nec mi●um si aegritudo à capite in membra à summis Pontificibus in alios iuferiores Praelatos descenderit Omnes nos id est Praelati Ecclesiastici declinavimus vnusquisque in vias suns nec fuit iam diu qui faceret-bonum non fuit vsque ad vnum Subiecimus colla summae dignitati ad deformatam eius sponsam Ecclesiam Catholicam reformandam c. Staplet Relect. Contr. 1. q. 5.
in Religion Now he pretends there is great Unitie in doctrine among his Roman Catholiques With little reason and with as little ingenuitie For certainly if in this point we be not innocent they are much more guilty The truth is that old complaint of Optatus fits our times better then his a Lib. 5. Omnes contentiosi homines sumus there is but too much quarrelling on all sides which exposes our holy faith to the scorne of Infidells and ill beseemes them that pretend as we doe all to serve and follow the Prince of peace But sure the Romanists are not in case to fasten this reproach on us since it will reflect more strongly on themselues who have many more and more weighty Controversies among their owne Doctors then those of ours For our dissensions I have already said enough if not to justifie yet to excuse them To which I now adde by way of just recrimination that they are both for their number and in their nature of farre lesse importance then the dissensions in his Romane Church But our Mistaker answers in the behalfe of his jarring Doctors two things 1. that they differ onely in some schoole-questions of opinion not in matters of faith 2. that they dissent in iudgement onely without breach of charitie But in both the parts of this answer I shall briefly let him see that he is Mistaken His first plea is a very true and reasonable Apologie for our Reformed Churches but not so for his Romane Our controversies are none of them in the substance of faith but onely in disputable opinions not cleerly defined in Scripture wherein learned and charitable men do each one abound in his ow● sence still keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace The summe of our faith is the same which we have received from the Apostles We have no● added any new Articles to the Creed nor do we differ about any of the old ones But they of b Bulla Pii 4. post Concil Trident. Rome have inlarged the Creed of Christians one moity and will needs have the world to beleive many things as points of faith which at the best are but doubtfull opinions among all which there is hardly one wherein themselves do fully agree The c The new title of Cardinalls by the decre of Pope Urban Jun. 10. 1630. See it in the French Merc. Tome 16. pag. 592. most eminent Cardinall Bellarmine in his Controversies against us hath fairly confessed as hath been formerly noted that each opinion almost is controverted amongst themselves A d Contradictiones DD. Rom. Eccl. ex Rob. Bellarmino Autore Joan Pappo Argentorati Ann. 1597. Vide etiam Matthiam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Sectis controversiis religionis Papisticae Basil 1565. German Doctor hath collected out of Him their contradictions and set them down in his owne words to the number of 237. and withall a Catalogue of such Romane Writers as Bellarmine himselfe hath contradicted and confuted which contains the most part of Writers in his owne Church famous for learning in later ages Ioannes de Radae hath filled two grosse volumes with the contentions of the Thomists and Scotists And the Dominicans and Iesuites have filled libraries with their quarrells in the matter of Grace and Freewill wherein either side pretends the definition of the Trent Councell for their contrarie opinions It seemes that Councell like the Devill in the old Oracles hath deluded them both with ambiguous sentences Or if the definition be cleare one of the Factions doth obstinately contradict it Why doth not his Holinesse all this while interpose and give out his infallible judgment in the questions If he will not he wants charity towards his owne children if he cannot how is he the infallible Iudge Or is it rather his wary wisedome not hastily to decide Controversies wherein witty and learned men on both sides are engaged * As Widdrington and his followers have done See Widdringtons Purgation against the Popes Decree wherein he was condemned for an Heretique and no child of the Church lest in stead of changing their opinions they should fall to challenge not onely the infallibility but which were more dangerous the authority of their Iudge and in stead of reforming their owne judgement despise his The most capitall point of all others in their new Creed is that of the Popes authority and that obedience which he challenges in spirituall and temporall matters yet of all others they are most at discord among themselves about this point The old doubts are not yet resolved whether he be under or above a Generall Councell and whether he may erre in his definitive sentence some advance him with priviledges above the condition of men Others thinke more soberly of his power and are bold to resist him when they see him abuse it In the Trent Councel the Spanish Bishops stood stoutly for the independency of Episcopall authority and strongly maintained residence to be de jure divino being overborne onely with most voices by the Italian faction The Divines of Venice in the late quarrells of pope Paule the 5. against that State neglected the Popes Interdict so that he was fain with shame enough to revoke his Censures e Voiez la Declaration de l' Assemblee Generale du Clergé de France An. 1625. Very lately the Bishops of France have brought the Regulars of that Kingdome under their jurisdiction notwithstanding their exemptions by the Pope And whereas his Flatterers tell him that he hath either directly as f Carerius Bosius c. some say or indirectly as g Bell. c. others to the same purpose a Tempor all Monarchy over all the earth that all Princes are his vassals and may be deposed when he thinkes fitt that he may dispense with subjects for their oath of Allegeance and license them to take armes against their Soveraignes Many good Catholiques detest these damnable doctrines and have h Barclay Withrington The Divines of Venice confuted them as tending to bring ruine and confusion on all states and in France the seditious bookes of Mariana Bellarmine Becanus Suarez Santarellus and such like containing these horrible Maximes of the Society have been cast into the fire by the hand of the publique Hangman But among their discords there is none more memorable or of greater consequence then that of the two Popes Sixtus 5. and Clement 8. about their vulgar See Dr James his Bellum Papale and Cortuptions of the Fathers part 3. Latin Bibles When the Councell of Trent declared that Translation only to be authenticall there were abroad in the World above 60. severall Editions of it each differing from other Which Sixtus taking into consideration with great diligence and advise of many Cardinals he compared the Copies and out of them all published one which he straitly commanded to be received as the onely true Vulgar by a solemne Bull abolishing all others which did not exactly ad verbum and ad
salutis humanae anted non portiuncula aliqua fidei nostrae sed quòd Dominus noster in Ecclesia neminem voluit sexus utriusque ignorare Novatianus de Trin. cap. 1. 9. Symbolum regula est veritatis cap. 29. fidei auctoritas Maximus Taurin Homil. de tradit Symboli Signaculum Symboli inter fideles perfidósque secernit Petr. Chrysol Sermon 59. Est placitum fidei pactum gratiae salutis Symbolum Caelestin Episc Rom. in Epist ad Nestorium citante Ioanne Foroliviensi Episcopo in Concil Florent sess 10. Quis unquam non dignus est anathemate judicatus vel adiiciens vel detrahens fidei in Symbolis contentae Plenè enim ac manifestè tradita nobis ab Apostolis nec augmentum nec imminutionem requirunt Bessarion Nicaenus Concil Flor. sess 8. pag. 464. edit Bin. ult Sacro Symbolo nihil est addendum quia in Ecclesia locum obtinet principii ac fundamenti fidei nostrae Marcus Ephesius ibid. sess 3. pag. 431. Arbitramur nihil omissum esse a Patribus in Symbolo fidei neque omnino positum esse quicquam mano●m quod correctione aut additamento indigeat Et haec est potissim● schismatis inter Graecos Latinósque causa praecipientibus Patribus aullum aliud Symbolum esse unquam recipiendum nec esse quicquam addendum vel detrahendum quòdilli omnia satis complexi sunt Andraeas Rhodi Archiepi scopus Latinus ibid. sess 7. pag. 451. Ad illud quod aiebat Dominus Ephesius Symbolum esse perfectum perfecto nihil posse addi respondemus perfection sumi dupliciter vel quoad fidem vel quoad explanationem Et quidem quoad fidem Symbolum esse perfectissimum nec indigere additamento quoad explanationem verò non suisse satis propter haereses quae erant emersurae Augustine to young novices You must know that the Creed is the foundation of the Catholique faith and of the Church laid by the hands of the Apostles and Prophets My margine will adde some more to this cloud of Witnesses and fully make good my word that the Fathers here come in with full consent And now our Mistaker hath his Catalogue of fundamentalls recommended to him by such reason and authorities as I presume will satisfie his longing and content him If so then he is satisfied both for the question which be fundamentalls and for the state of our Church that we agree in fundamentalls If this please him not then it will be in his choice whether he will reject the constant opinion of his owne DDrs and the old Fathers or show us some way how they and he dissenting herein from them may be reconciled If he reject them and their opinion we shall be content to be condemned by him together with the Fathers and his owne Brethren If he approve the perfection of the Creed with them he may be pleased to make answer to his owne objections which if he will calmely consider he may happily finde to be but weake and of small moment His Objections are In the Creed there is no mention 1. of the Canon of Scripture 2. or of the number and nature of the Sacraments 3. or of Iustification whether it be by faith or by works 4. That Doctrine of devills 1. Tim. 4. 1. forbidding marriage and meates is not there condemned 5. Lastly the sence of diverse Articles is questioned as that of the Descent into hell and the other of the Catholique Church Therefore the Creed is no perfect rule of faith Answer To the first The Creed is an abstract or abridgement of such necessary doctrines as are delivered in Scripture or collected out of it and therefore needs not expresse the authority of that which it supposes These Articles are principles which are proved by Scripture the Scripture it self a principle which needs no proofe amongst Christians The Creed containes onely the materiall object of faith or the things which must be beleived expressely according to Scripture The Scripture is further the formall object of faith or the motive and ground whereupon faith is founded being as Philosophers say of light in regard of the sight both the objectum quod in respect of the things therein revealed and objectum quo in respect of that divine verity and authority which reveales them Although the Nicene Fathers in their Creed confessing that the holy Ghost spake by the Prophets do thereby sufficiently avow the divine Authority of all Canonicall Scripture To the 2. we say 1. That the Sacraments are to be reckoned rather among the Agenda of the Church then the Credenda they are rather divine rites and ceremonies then doctrines 2. For their numbers the Mistaker who hath so little moderation as to thinke his Seaven fit matter for the Creed shall be answered in the words of a o Examen pacifique Ch. 1. pag. 22. Prenantce mot de Sacrement propremēt S. Aug. dit de Doctr. Chr. li. 3. ca. 9. qu'il ny en a que deux a sçauoir le Baptesme l'Eucharistie Dauantage c'est vne phrase cōmune parmy nous Catholiques de dire que tous les Sacremens sont coulez du coste de nostre Seigneur Or ne coula de son costé que sang eau Ce que representoit selon l'interpretation de Chrysostome Cyrill autres anciens les deux Sacrements de l'Eglise a sçauoir le Baptesme parl'eau le calice de l'Eucharistie par le sang Et nos Docteurs Catholiques ne font autre responce a ceci si non que ces deux sacremens on t quelque dignité par dessus les autres qui n'est autre chose si non dire qu'ily a deux Sacremens principaux plusieur sinferieurs Ce qui est demesme que les Huguenots disent mais en diuers termes eux disans qu'il ny en a que deux proprement nous qu'il ny en a que deux principalement nous disons aussi qu'il y en a plusieurs inferieurs eux qu'il y en a aussi plusieurs si nous parlons des Sacremens ●● la signification generale Car Calvin dit que l'ordre est vn Sacrement Melancthon ditle mesme y adjouste la penitence Bref ils diron● qu'il y en a sept mais non pas seulement sept de fait il ny a aucun des Anciens Peres qui aye iamais trouue ce nombre de sept moderate Roman Catholique Takeing the word Sacrament properly S. Augustin saith there are but two to wit Baptisme and the Lords Supper And it is a common saying among us Catholiques that all the Sacraments flowed from the side of our Lord. Now there came from his side onely bloud and water which represented according to the interpretation of Chrysostome Cyrill and others of the Ancients the two Sacraments of the Church Baptisme by water and the Chalice in the Eucharist by bloud To which our Catholique Doctors give no other