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A96895 A just account of truth and peace, given-in by brethren, lovers of and fellow-helpers to both, wherefore they must open their matters to the view of the world, speaking them, in their respective places, as upon the house-tops, which else had been spoken in darknesse privately, and as in the eare. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1656 (1656) Wing W3493; Thomason E868_5; ESTC R207686 17,576 27

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or don by him was childish while he was a child so happely in the next step of our life which is youth he that is a youth thinks as a youth speaks as a youth acts as a youth all in him or don by him is youthfull that is subject to miscarriages and mistakes therefore wee as wee were saying regarded little what the son said speaking of his own nor can wee think it strange that a youth should act like a youth every age of our life having something peculiar to its self But this we think strange That the son charged our book so in the presence of his father and where two learned and pious Divines as is meete for us to judge were present at the same time whose names wee shall mention in the ensuing papers You have heard our case wee will detaine thee no longer when wee have added this That having offered our matters succeslesly to that Minister returning them with such a castigation as the like wee think hath not been heard or read though wee were charged by him to give him our perswasion and the reason thereof in reference to the matters aforesaid we find our selves constrained to make our matters publick which we doe the more cheerfully being confident of this thing That there is nothing here or in that which may follow after which is against piety or charity for wee had rather our bones should be scattered like chips about the hewing-place than that our pen which hath the advantage of the tongue more hearers should as others doe in this scribling age scatter errour and wickednesse among the people as the Scorpion its poyson Wee trust the Good Hand of Him our onely leane-to and that leads into all truth so far as that wee hope you shall find Truth all along and mannaged in our measure as becometh sons of truth and fellow-helpers of the same This Good Spirit direct your heart to the love of Christ which onely is constraining to love Truth and peace and to keepe both as thou keepest the apple of thine eye or thy chiefest Treasure Amen In the Name and by the appointment 10. 5. 55. of their Pastour HEZEKIAH WOODVVARD SECT 1. TRue is the Proverb Sir The beginning of strife is as when one lets-out water stirred quickly not so quickly stinted so like water it is of a spreading nature or as like unto fire which may breake-forth from a bramble and devour a Cedar There is no such feare of our fire as you are pleased to call it though being now let-out it may spread like water and so it shall doe if wee can help the spreading of it That it may appeare how and where it began with the rise and originall of it how it was raised yea forced From whence you may learne and studie to be quiet and meddle in your own matters walking peaceably in your owne way so pleasing in your owne eyes And not meddle with others in theirs fully resolved from the word of God to be the way of Truth and of Holinesse Surely it had been no contemptible point of your wisdome and might have argued good Discretion To have left this contention before it was meddled with which to render according to th' originall you may better skill of than we Onely this we would say as to the stirring in this strife againe That wee did not use lightnesse nor did wee purpose according to the flesh never more to meddle therein for so we said to you in our last intending it the last you should ever have from us either by Letter word or otherwise in reference to those matters under Debate For as wee said then To what end we had given our opinion as you willed us and there might have been an end Wee have experienced this Truth That Errour is as binding upon the Conscience and as strongly embraced by the affections as Truth is binding of us and Embraced by us not in the name of an Errour but of Truth And men are therefore wedded to and in love with their owne Conceptions because how monstrous and hard-favoured soever in themselves yet nothing is more beautifull in their eye than they No man saith the Apostle ever hated his owne flesh but loveth and cherisheth it The flesh of our minds such are all false principles and positions is more loved and cherished by us than the flesh of our Bodyes A light intimation we proceed in his words upon Iob 22 verse or onely the appearance of a probability will amount to a proof against either persons or doctrines which we like not But the clearest Demonstration will hardly raise a jealousie against what we like You have given Sir we feare a very sad experience of this very thing For how stubborne and unmoved are you from Mr H s his errour in point of admission of all filthinesse all over and wallowing therein as swine in the mire admitted notwithstanding to all Church-Communions the Lords Supper and all Though the strongest winds of Truth have breathed yea blowne hard upon it That you might not be willingly ignorant of this very thing and withall to shew our deare respects unto you wee told you That foure Worthies of the Lord had Encountred with Mr H s about the premises and with as much ease to phrase it as one doth and with like successe as the fire doth the dried stubble and yet he stubbornely holds to it for ought we know we know you doe remaining in the same minde with him that foreforne man Generally we think deceived by the Godly all over the Land as a Mountaine unmoved to this very houre Wee know not which is worse but leave it to you to judge Vnsetlednesse in the Truth and an Easinesse to let it goe or tenaciousnesse in an error and an hardnesse to let it goe Nor doe we know well which is worse a readinesse to take up hard thoughts of our Brethren or unreadinesse to lay them downe onely this we know Were the lawes of Zeale for God observed and of Love to man you could not as we thinke Despise the day of small things or rhe least breathings or faintest endeavours of any how meane and weake soever as babes in Christ use to be enquiring after Truth and that old but now forsaken way of holinesse Asking the way to Zion with their faces thetherward saying Come c. Ier 50. 5. And did you observe the Law of Charity to man it would cause you to examine every ground of suspicion against a Brother twice before you did indeed suspect him once And you would rejoyce in any appearance of his innocence whereby you might discharge your owne Spirit of all suspicions concerning him These words we hope will not be as wind with you though ours are and have been to this time Therefore as we said we had sorborne to speak nay we doe forbeare to speake more unto you unlesse you happen to light on it but forbeare to speake we may not we cannot for
brothers booke he saw clearely That the Tenets your brother holds-to there are the pillar and ground Free Admission of all to all Church-Communions beareth upon The very Tenour it holds-by vvhereupon vve saw it clearely our dutie for vvee vvere questioned about it and not our Pastour so what he undertook and hath don it was upon the account of Truth and for our sakes after we had done our worke in order to your satisfaction to returne unto it againe and to make a distinct Worke or Treatise of it And hereof we gave you and him intimation in our Epistle to you and in that other to him and his fellow-brethren as also in our first Treatise by an insertion there And all this that we might doe as becommeth all things according to the Gospell Rule and right order vvee made tender of our booke againe and againe that hee might have the fight of it for vvee vvould rather offend our selves than him or your selfe or any good man But upon what account he and you best know it was refused And so after two moneths expectation and then a flat deniall together with somewhat more you wott off We ceased as in point of good manners it was fit for us to doe for vvhat could we say or doe more Indeed we know not we saw our papers that were sent returned with contempt and more They might fare the worse for their Authour For the counsell is seldome loved if the Counseller be not though yet Truth is lovely what ever the Speaker bee The other three vvee prepared we offered and yee refused them We say againe vvhat could we doe more and being fully resolved we have done full-up to our duty our Pastour willed us to tell you farther That whereas he purposed his said bookes and that said Treatise the sixt in order should see the light not before the Authour thereof be carried to the place of Darknesse That then his bookes may speake for the way of Truth fellow-walkers therein and helpers of the same so monstrously opposed now adayes and for the vindication of that he We are taught to vindicate our Credit when the Truth is wounded through the sides thereof accounts better than riches when his body must be laid in the place of Silence For why may it not be hoped at least why not endeavoured That when his body is laid to sleep in the Dust of Death his Name may rise from the Dust of Debasement however the will of the Lord be done But so he intended and fully purposed in his heart then and not till then to send that and other Treatises abroad into the world But observing some signall providence This 1 That Mr Hs pleadings for free Admission c. should be so pleaded for by a Minister of the Gospell and Steward in His house a leading man and a Carrying man with the most of the professors in the County he lives-in And this after foure Worthies of the Lord have stood up in the might of God against him speaking so much and so clearely from the Holy Scriptures to that point of non-admission of all that it had been enough to stop the mouth of the Devill Preface to B. Cat p. 68. himselfe which one said of an eminently learned and godly man asserting the Truth against gain-sayers 2 And nextly to say the least and as little as can be The defaming of many Ministers and people round about him 3 And which pinches and presses yet more if more can be your pointing us to your Son's handy-worke in his Treatise of Prayer specially the Lords Prayer where he chargeth the Rev Authour with Blasphemy upon Blasphemy here one and there another and there a third for this and that and the other But 4 specially for Truths-sake and the way of Holinesse which as is conceived suffers much herein through the spewings you have given too just an occasion to be cast thereupon he will endeavour his utmost to give all that will a sight of all that is written making this Assuance withall to his Reader First That how evilly-soever he is spoken off and dealt withall yet he can doe nothing against the Truth but in desire and endeavour all he possibly can for it the promoting of the same in the hearts and lives of Gods people And 2 That they who are helpers together with him of That Blessed thing shall be helped by him to the utmost of those abilities his Lord and heavenly Father is pleased to Communicate to him And he is perswaded That This God Whom he hath Trusted will as He hath done hitherto so to th' end help both him and them And in the last place This he added more That rather than he would in the least greive the Least of the Lords little ones knowingly he would his tongue should cleave to the roof of his mouth rather and his pen to his Fingers ends That his hand should fall off from his arme and his arme from his shoulder-blade We come now to the fourth and last and Then we have done SECT VI. 4. SO we give you Sir to know That our Pastour with our selves have taken full notice as you willed us of your Sons handy-worke in the Margent of that Treatise our Pastour hath written about forms of Prayer and in speciall the Lords-Prayer whereof you were more than an occasion or causa sine quâ non we have as we were sayiug well observed your Sons Charge of blasphemy there And Truely had it not been your Son whom we have knowne so well we had wondred at it Besides he is but young a youth-full Man Yet these words may fit very well An evill time sure sad things are comming The Child shall behave himselfe proudly against the Auncient and which aggravates the fault we thinke the Son shall doe this the Father standing-by and giving allowance to it and which might in some mens thoughts highten it to a Crime the father of the Childe a Minister of the Gospell allowing his Son so dealing with his fellow-Minister and little lesse than boasting of it if not glorying in it when it was so done Your owne acknowledgement Sir Mr Ford and Mr Owen with your selfe were at your Sons Elbow at least he was within the sound of your words which were these Take heed Son what you write that it be no more than what you can Answer I 'le warrant you for that said he Say we should you have taken his warrant being so youthfull a Man and knowne so to be Say you for we make bold to question you about this matter though were vve as much above you in place as vve are below you we would not be so bold with you as you know who was vvhen the Childe offended in the presence of the Father he excused the Son à tanto if not à toto and laid all the blame upon the Father and gave him a box on the eare withall suffering the Childe to doe a thing so unbecomming in the
A just Account Upon the Account of truth and peace given-in by Brethren lovers of and fellow-helpers to both wherefore they must open their matters to the view of the world speaking them in their respective places as upon the house-tops which else had been spoken in darknesse privately and as in the eare They take away the righteousnesse of the righteous from them Isa 5. 23. Every day they wrest my words Psal 56. 5. Which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest as they also doe other Scriptures 2 Pet. 3. 16. Wee are made manifest unto God 2 Cor. 5. 11. LONDON Printed according to Order for Henry Cripps in Popes-head-Alley 1656. TO THE READER WEE are angariated wee make bold with that Persian word our English being so short in our seeming to expresse the enforcement that lyeth upon us compelled as one was to beare the Crosse or as a tired horse to goe his Stage so we to put-forth our matters as we intend to doe one after another for others to judge betwixt us and a Minister of Mr Hs perswasion in Reference to the Discipline of Gods House free Admission of all to all Church-Communions It is possible and but after the manner of men and more ordinary with such as we are to judge amisse of our own performances too partially and fatherlike for libri quasi liberi books are like children we over-look their faults or we deal too tenderly with them as others may too rashly and rigedly Therefore as things now stand the world must judge betwixt us or as many of them as are fitted with patience to sit out the hearing of so meane matters as they are acted by us as mean as the meanest and may be presented to their eye and eare in their order and respective places Meane we say as acted by us but in their relation to the house of God the Church of the living God the management of matters by the Steward 's there they may appear to be matters high and Glorious just according to the manner they are mannaged if after the due order then high and glorious if otherwise then low and inglorious Now be not discouraged Reader at our meannesse though so meane wee are as thou canst think us We would gladly suppose thee a blessed man the bent of whose Spirit is such that he cannot stirre or make the least motion against the Truth And then it is a blessed comfort to this blessed man to thee if thou be hee that though wee should put forth our strength not ingorantly onely but wickedly which through grace is as far from us as wee would have that to be which is an abomination to us against the truth yet we shall never prevail against it which undoubtedly will be the great Conquerour at last is gaining every day luster and Glory by our most inglorious actings against it Questionless it is ventilated winnowed and purged by the blastings of men of corrupt minds upon it surely it is cleared from the dross which would cleave to it passing through so many heated hands and fiery mouths as so many fining pots though intended by man utterly to extinguish and consume it oh the glorious advantages truth hath gained all along these feirce and perilous times while errour sate in state or as we may say in its Throne like to be as might be conceived by some a perpetuall Dictator against it It is the Lords doing is it not marvelous in your eyes But to stay thee no longer we come to our case which in brief is this we were desired so wee would rather say than charged or commanded wee should be judged else to walke by a fancy in the matters of our Lord by a Minister of the same perswasion with a world but argumentum pessimum turba commonly the most are worst of Ministers to give our reasons for our dissent from him in point of free admission of all to all Church Communions upon account of their infant Baptism As also to the declaring against the observation of the day wee will call because we would be understood Christmas Day in reference also to forms of prayer and in speciall to the Lords prayer and foure Queries thereupon These foure Treatises for so wee have digested them with three Epistles together with an introduction holding forth by way of preface the way of Christ with His people and their walke with Him by the guidance of his good Spirit in the directions of His Word these wee were saying wee sent to the said Minister one after another as wee could take a transcript of the same some two months after he returned us the Epistles Preface and first Treatise of Baptisme with some exceptions against some expressions or passages in all three whereunto we thought our selves bound upon the account of truth to make some Reply whereof you may be judge if please you For truely our Humours or our principles the one or both are so contrary that though we are bound to judge our selves yet neither must wee nor will wee be judged in our matters though indeed we think them to be right and well agreeing with the Word of God if that said Minister fixed in Mr H s way and firme to his perswasion be in an errour as to these matters Quickly after the receite of this our Reply to his exceptions as aforesaid he returned together with that Reply the three other Treatises all he had or would receive from us whereas there were three more in our hands in a readinesse for him with so much heate as might argue his spirit somwhat discomposed Notwithstanding though some might think here was some offence given in returning our Papers wee expected no more than wee doe the returne of our waters where they neither ebb nor flow yet truely there was no offence taken they were received and little regarded by us having as wee said a transcript of them Some three weekes after the said Minister asked one amongst us whether wee had looked into our papers he had returned to us answer was made no he bad us look into our Treatise of prayer wherein our endeavour and care was to be studiously curious and there wee should see what his son had written Wee did as hee desired and quickly found his sons handy work for some leaves together as pleased him or him that appointed him false glosses unjust constructions the blackest lines did that young man draw-over ours in many places and at length down-right blasphemy charged he upon us Whereat we were startled a little at present not because the son of that Minister charged us so deeply for he was as some say very youthfull till of late when the hands of the Presbytery were laid upon him what change was wrought upon him at that time or since that day they should know who live neere him heare his Doctrines and see his practise But youthfull he was as is said after the manner of young folk and then as Paul said all in him