Selected quad for the lemma: child_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
child_n write_v year_n young_a 317 4 6.1482 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A35787 A treatise concerning the right use of the Fathers, in the decision of the controversies that are this day in religion written in French by John Daille ...; Traité de l'employ des saints Pères pour le jugement des différences qui sont aujourd'hui en la religion. English Daillé, Jean, 1594-1670. 1675 (1675) Wing D119; ESTC R1519 305,534 382

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

be_v often_o observe_v to_o have_v do_v this_o very_a thing_n we_o be_v therefore_o to_o conclude_v that_o they_o have_v be_v force_v to_o it_o out_o of_o some_o special_a design_n and_o that_o they_o do_v it_o as_o they_o use_v ●o_o speak_v by_o oeconomy_n or_o particular_a dispensation_n se●ing_n that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o be_v very_o able_a men._n st._n hierome_n by_o namo_n recommend_v the_o go_n in_o pilgrimage_n to_o jerusalem_n go_v thus_o far_o as_o 〈◊〉_d say_v †_o that_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o our_o faith_n to_o go_v and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o ●●ose_a place_n where_o the_o foot_n of_o our_o saviour_n once_o st●●d_v and_o to_o 〈◊〉_d a_o sigh●_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d which_o at_o this_o day_n continue_v fresh_a both_o of_o his_o nativity_n cross_n and_o passion_n now_o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o large_a discourse_n fruimur_fw-la which_o he_o have_v make_v in_o another_o place_n to_o a_o quite_o contrary_a sense_n namely_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o paulinus_n where_o at_o length_n conclude_v he_o give_v he_o this_o reason_n of_o the_o length_n of_o his_o discourse_n *_o to_o the_o end_n 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o thou_o may_v not_o think_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v want_v to_o the_o complete_n of_o thy_o faith_n because_o thou_o have_v not_o visit_v jerusalem_n or_o that_o we_o be_v any_o whit_n the_o better_a for_o have_v the_o opportunity_n of_o dwell_v in_o this_o place_n and_o here_o he_o concur_v with_o gregory_n n●ssen_n who_o ●ath_v write_v a_o discourse_n express_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o those_o †_o who_o account_v it_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o part_n of_o pi●●y_a to_o have_v visit_v jerusalem_n let_v any_o rational_a man_n therefore_o now_o judge_n whether_o or_o no_o this_o course_n must_v not_o necessary_o embroil_v and_o inwrap_v in_o a_o world_n of_o almost_o inexplicable_a difficulty_n the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n for_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o we_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o judge_v when_o they_o speak_v as_o they_o think_v protulisse_fw-la and_o when_o not_o whether_o they_o mean_v real_o what_o they_o say_v or_o whether_o they_o make_v but_o a_o flourish_n only_o whether_o the_o bread_n which_o they_o show_v we_o be_v to_o deceive_v or_o to_o feed_v we_o whether_o the_o problem_n they_o propose_v be_v solid_a or_o slippery_a one_o whether_o their_o position_n be_v dogmatical_a or_o oeconomical_a certain_o if_o our_o court_n judgement_n be_v frame_v after_o this_o manner_n we_o shall_v never_o hope_v to_o have_v a_o end_n in_o any_o suit_n of_o law_n for_o as_o for_o that_o which_o s._n hierome_n say_v that_o a_o intelligent_a and_o favourable_a reader_n ought_v to_o judge_v of_o those_o thing_n which_o seem_v hard_a out_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o discourse_n and_o not_o present_o to_o accuse_v any_o author_n of_o blockishness_n for_o have_v deliver_v in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o boo●_n two_o contrary_a opinion_n i_o confess_v that_o this_o be_v very_o true_a but_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o remove_v the_o difficulty_n for_o how_o intelligent_a and_o discern_a a_o man_n soever_o the_o reader_n be_v it_o will_v very_o often_o be_v impossible_a for_o he_o to_o make_v a_o right_a judgement_n in_o this_o particular_a as_o for_o example_n when_o those_o other_o thing_n be_v want_v which_o s._n hierome_n will_v have_v a_o man_n to_o make_v the_o measure_n of_o his_o judgement_n or_o when_o one_o bring_v we_o no_o more_o of_o a_o author_n save_v only_o a_o bare_a sentence_n the_o chapter_n and_o book_n where_o these_o word_n be_v which_o have_v need_v to_o be_v explain_v be_v quite_o out_o of_o his_o memory_n and_o how_o many_o such_o be_v allege_v every_o day_n in_o our_o disputation_n what_o can_v we_o now_o do_v or_o which_o way_n shall_v we_o turn_v ourselves_o if_o meet_v with_o a_o passage_n out_o of_o any_o of_o the_o father_n that_o need_v to_o be_v explain_v we_o can_v find_v no_o other_o place_n in_o he_o concern_v the_o same_o point_n or_o if_o there_o be_v none_o find_v but_o what_o be_v as_o doubtful_a as_o the_o other_o or_o that_o be_v not_o in_o some_o other_o book_n controvert_v itself_o who_o shall_v regulate_v we_o amid_o such_o contradiction_n as_o these_o but_o which_o be_v yet_o worse_o those_o thing_n which_o s._n hierome_n prescribe_v we_o for_o a_o rule_n and_o direction_n to_o our_o judgement_n be_v now_o in_o these_o day_n of_o we_o very_o unseasonable_a as_o be_v harsh_a as_o to_o the_o one_o side_n and_o please_v to_o the_o other_o according_a to_o man_n several_a affection_n and_o interest_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v wont_n to_o interpret_v and_o judge_v of_o the_o father_n whereas_o we_o shall_v rather_o search_v in_o they_o which_o way_n we_o be_v to_o direct_v our_o judgement_n and_o that_o favourableness_n which_o s._n hierome_n require_v in_o we_o can_v be_v here_o of_o any_o use_n at_o all_o but_o may_v possible_o beside_o do_v very_o much_o hurt_v for_o the_o great_a the_o affection_n be_v that_o we_o bear_v to_o any_o father_n the_o great_a care_n and_o pain_n will_v we_o take_v in_o vindicate_v his_o word_n and_o interpret_n they_o in_o a_o sense_n as_o far_o different_a as_o we_o can_v from_o what_o we_o have_v long_o since_o condemn_v as_o erroneous_a and_o unsound_a though_o possible_o this_o may_v have_v be_v his_o real_a sense_n and_o opinion_n as_o for_o example_n in_o those_o passage_n before-cited_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n and_o gregory_n nyssen_n the_o protestant_n account_v that_o a_o very_a harsh_a piece_n of_o doctrine_n which_o yet_o his_o adversary_n be_v very_o well_o please_v with_o the_o one_o of_o they_o sweat_v and_o torment_v himself_o much_o in_o the_o explain_n of_o such_o a_o passage_n as_o appear_v very_o easy_a to_o the_o other_o the_o one_o take_v that_o for_o text_n which_o the_o other_o account_v but_o as_o a_o gloss_n and_o thus_o the_o great_a affection_n man_n bear_v to_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o any_o one_o of_o the_o father_n the_o more_o do_v they_o labour_v and_o use_v their_o utmost_a endeavour_n to_o bring_v he_o over_o to_o speak_v to_o their_o opinion_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o plain_a truth_n to_o force_v he_o out_o of_o his_o own_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o we_o shall_v hold_v both_o opinion_n at_o once_o we_o shall_v here_o therefore_o conclude_v that_o how_o clear_a and_o express_v so_o ever_o the_o word_n of_o the_o father_n may_v be_v yet_o nevertheless_o will_v it_o very_o often_o so_o fall_v out_o as_o that_o we_o can_v have_v any_o assurance_n that_o we_o have_v their_o sense_n express_v in_o they_o whether_o it_o be_v in_o their_o exposition_n of_o the_o scripture_n or_o in_o their_o homily_n and_o sermon_n before_o the_o people_n or_o last_o in_o their_o disputation_n with_o their_o adversary_n touch_v their_o faith_n chap._n vii_o reason_n vii_o that_o the_o fathèr_n have_v not_o always_o hold_v one_o and_o the_o same_o belief_n but_o have_v sometime_o change_v some_o of_o their_o opinion_n according_a as_o their_o judgement_n have_v grow_v ripe_a through_o study_n or_o age._n among_o all_o the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n the_o pen_n man_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n only_o have_v receive_v the_o knowledge_n of_o divine_a thing_n by_o a_o extraordinary_a inspiration_n the_o rest_n have_v acquire_v their_o knowledge_n by_o the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o instruction_n reading_n and_o meditation_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o that_o this_o knowledge_n come_v not_o unto_o they_o in_o a_o instant_n as_o it_o do_v to_o the_o other_o but_o increase_v in_o they_o by_o degree_n ripen_v and_o grow_v up_o by_o little_a and_o little_a in_o proportion_n as_o they_o grow_v in_o year_n whence_o it_o be_v that_o their_o write_n be_v not_o all_o of_o they_o of_o the_o same_o weight_n nor_o of_o the_o same_o value_n for_o who_o see_v not_o that_o what_o they_o as_o it_o be_v sport_o write_v in_o their_o young_a year_n be_v of_o much_o less_o consideration_n than_o those_o other_o piece_n which_o they_o write_v in_o their_o ripe_a age_n who_o for_o instance_n nepot_n will_v equal_v the_o authority_n of_o that_o epistle_n of_o s._n hierome_n to_o heliodorus_n write_v by_o he_o when_o he_o have_v but_o new_o leave_v the_o rhetoric_n school_n be_v yet_o a_o child_n and_o full_a of_o that_o innocent_a and_o inconsiderate_a heat_n which_o usual_o attend_v those_o year_n to_o that_o of_o those_o other_o grave_a piece_n which_o he_o afterward_o send_v abroad_o into_o the_o church_n when_o he_o have_v now_o arrive_v to_o his_o full_a strength_n and_o ripeness_n of_o wi●_n and_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o study_n s._n augustine_n have_v leave_v we_o a_o remarkable_a testimony_n that_o the_o father_n profit_v by_o age_n and_o study_n in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o
than_o a_o thousand_o and_o twenty_o five_o or_o thirty_o year_n or_o thereabouts_o so_o likewise_o when_o locum_fw-la epiphanius_n write_v that_o moses_n be_v but_o thirty_o year_n old_a when_o he_o bring_v forth_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n out_o of_o egypt_n whereas_o the_o scripture_n clear_o testify_v that_o he_o be_v fourscore_o year_n of_o age_n and_o so_o where_o he_o affirm_v 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o take_n of_o the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n happen_v sixty_o five_o year_n after_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o true_o the_o chronology_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_n be_v general_o very_o strange_a and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n very_o far_o wide_a of_o the_o truth_n as_o have_v be_v observe_v and_o also_o prove_v at_o large_a by_o all_o the_o modern_n as_o scaliger_n petavius_n and_o other_o but_o these_o matter_n be_v so_o very_o nice_a and_o ticklish_a that_o oftentimes_o the_o most_o diligent_a inquirer_n into_o they_o may_v chance_v to_o mistake_v i_o shall_v therefore_o forbear_v to_o insist_v any_o long_o upon_o this_o particular_a and_o shall_v now_o lay_v before_o you_o some_o example_n of_o another_o nature_n and_o such_o as_o shall_v most_o evident_o discover_v the_o security_n and_o negligence_n of_o these_o author_n justin_n martyr_n speak_v of_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o lxx_o interpreter_n say_v 〈◊〉_d that_o ptolemy_n king_n of_o egypt_n send_v his_o ambassador_n to_o herod_n king_n of_o judaea_n whereas_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o story_n be_v that_o he_o send_v to_o eleazar_n the_o high_a priest_n two_o hundred_o forty_o and_o odd_a year_n before_o herod_n come_v to_o be_v king_n of_o judaea_n 133._o epiphanius_n tell_v we_o in_o two_o or_o three_o place_n that_o the_o peripatetic_n and_o pythagorean_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o sect_n of_o heathen_a philosopher_n which_o yet_o be_v as_o much_o different_a one_o from_o the_o other_o as_o the_o stoic_n and_o epicurean_o be_v as_o every_o child_n know_v the_o same_o author_n confident_o affirm_v also_o though_o contrary_a to_o the_o say_v of_o all_o ancient_a history_n 1._o that_o the_o several_a sect_n and_o opinion_n in_o philosophy_n spring_v from_o some_o certain_a mystery_n bring_v to_o athens_n by_o orpheus_n 5._o and_o other_o and_o that_o the_o stoic_n believe_v the_o immortality_n and_o transmigration_n of_o soul_n both_o which_o be_v as_o false_a the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o and_o likewise_o 1._o that_o nebuchadonosor_n send_v a_o colony_n into_o the_o country_n about_o samaria_n after_o the_o take_n of_o jerusalem_n whereas_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v salmanassar_n who_o have_v so_o do_v long_o before_o the_o other_o time_n what_o can_v you_o think_v of_o he_o when_o you_o find_v he_o mistake_v in_o such_o thing_n as_o happen_v not_o many_o year_n before_o he_o be_v bear_v as_o namely_o when_o he_o say_v num_fw-la that_o arius_n die_v before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o when_o he_o relate_v the_o story_n of_o meletius_n and_o his_o schism_n clean_o otherwise_o than_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o be_v justin_n martyr_n likewise_o assure_v we_o for_o a_o certain_a truth_n 〈◊〉_d that_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o the_o emperor_n claudius_n there_o be_v erect_v at_o rome_n a_o statue_n to_o simon_n magus_n in_o the_o river_n tiber_n betwixt_o the_o two_o bridge_n with_o this_o inscription_n to_o the_o holy_a god_n simon_n whereas_o as_o our_o learned_a tertuk_n critic_n now_o inform_v we_o it_o be_v only_o a_o inscription_n to_o one_o of_o the_o pagan_a demigod_n in_o these_o word_n ●semoni_fw-la deo_fw-la sanco_n which_o this_o good_a father_n mistake_v instead_o of_o semoni_n read_v simoni_n and_o for_o sanoo_o read_v sancto_n 250._o eusebius_n say_v and_o eustoch_n st._n hierome_n divers_a time_n repeat_v it_o after_o he_o that_o josephus_n the_o jewish_a historian_n report_v that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o our_o saviour_n passion_n the_o heavenly_a power_n forsake_v the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a noise_n hear_v and_o a_o voice_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v we_o depart_v hence_o and_o yet_o nevertheless_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o story_n be_v that_o josephus_n report_v this_o to_o have_v happen_v at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o the_o city_n be_v besiege_v that_o be_v to_o say_v above_o thirty_o five_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o our_o saviour_n eccles_n the_o same_o author_n and_o in_o a_o manner_n all_o other_o after_o they_o have_v constant_o deliver_v as_o a_o certain_a truth_n that_o philo_n judaeus_n in_o that_o book_n of_o he_o entitle_v de_n vitâ_fw-la contemplatiuâ_fw-la describe_v unto_o we_o the_o manner_n of_o life_n of_o the_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o monk_n and_o yet_o that_o book_n of_o philo_n which_o we_o have_v at_o this_o day_n under_o this_o title_n proclaim_v loud_a enough_o that_o he_o there_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o christian_n but_o of_o the_o essenes_n who_o be_v one_o of_o the_o three_o sect_n among_o the_o jew_n as_o have_v be_v observe_v by_o 1._o scaliger_n and_o by_o divers_a other_o after_o he_o we_o have_v touch_v how_o gratian_n st._n ambrose_n without_o give_v we_o any_o account_n of_o his_o reason_n why_o he_o do_v so_o understand_v by_o gog_n and_o magog_n mention_v in_o 33._o ezckiel_n the_o nation_n of_o the_o goth_n who_o in_o his_o time_n overrun_v all_o christendom_n he_o tell_v we_o in_o another_o place_n with_o the_o very_a same_o confidence_n that_o luc._n zacharias_n the_o father_n of_o john_n baptist_n be_v the_o high_a priest_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o yet_o 69._o baronius_n have_v clear_o prove_v to_o be_v false_a thus_o you_o see_v how_o little_a the_o late_a writer_n be_v behold_v to_o those_o that_o go_v before_o they_o as_o to_o this_o particular_a 〈◊〉_d epiphanius_n affirm_v that_o pison_n which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o four_o river_n that_o water_v the_o terrestrial_a paradise_n mention_v by_o moses_n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o indian_n and_o ethiopian_n call_v ganges_n and_o the_o greek_n indus_n which_o river_n pass_v at_o length_n through_o ethiopia_n discharge_v itself_o at_o last_o into_o the_o ocean_n at_o cales_n what_o wonderful_a strange_a geography_n have_v we_o get_v here_o if_o at_o least_o we_o may_v call_v it_o by_o this_o name_n which_o jumble_v together_o the_o east_n and_o the_o west_n and_o confound_v and_o make_v all_o one_o place_n which_o be_v very_o near_o a_o whole_a hemisphere_n distant_a from_o each_o other_o etc._n st._n basil_n also_o who_o be_v otherwise_o a_o excellent_a author_n have_v mistake_v likewise_o though_o not_o so_o much_o the_o course_n of_o the_o river_n danubius_n for_o he_o have_v only_o make_v it_o to_o spring_v out_o of_o the_o pyrenean_n mountain_n the_o speak_n of_o these_o river_n put_v i_o in_o mind_n that_o alii_fw-la all_o the_o father_n do_v unanimous_o understand_v by_o gihen_n one_o of_o the_o river_n of_o paradise_n the_o river_n nilus_n which_o have_v so_o deceive_v cardinal_n ●50_n perron_n also_o as_o that_o he_o so_o deliver_v it_o to_o we_o as_o the_o express_a text_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o this_o mean_n make_v it_o guilty_a of_o a_o manifest_a absurdity_n how_o innocent_a soever_o in_o itself_o it_o be_v and_o free_a from_o intend_v any_o such_o thing_n see_v that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o neither_o in_o the_o hebrew_n greek_a nor_o latin_a text_n it_o be_v ever_o say_v that_o the_o river_n nile_n water_v the_o land_n of_o paradise_n it_o be_v only_o a_o dream_n of_o the_o father_n that_o one_o of_o these_o river_n of_o paradise_n must_v needs_o have_v be_v the_o nile_n though_o this_o fancy_n of_o they_o as_o 371._o scaliger_n make_v it_o appear_v and_o as_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o †_o petavius_n also_o be_v build_v upon_o no_o ground_n or_o reason_n at_o all_o neither_o have_v their_o philosophy_n also_o be_v sometime_o less_o wonderful_a than_o their_o geography_n as_o for_o example_n when_o 19_o tertullian_n maintain_v that_o plant_n be_v endue_v both_o with_o sense_n and_o understand_v too_o so_o likewise_o where_o 90._o epiphanius_n hold_v that_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o dead_a man_n to_o return_v to_o life_n again_o without_o the_o reunion_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o the_o body_n as_o also_o where_o sumpserit_fw-la s._n ambrose_n say_v that_o the_o sun_n to_o the_o end_n he_o may_v allay_v his_o extreme_a heat_n refresh_v himself_o with_o the_o nourishment_n which_o he_o draw_v up_o from_o the_o water_n and_o that_o from_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o we_o sometime_o see_v he_o appear_v as_o it_o be_v all_o over_o wet_a and_o drop_v with_o dew_n and_o so_o again_o where_o you_o have_v some_o of_o they_o entertain_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o spherical_a figure_n of_o the_o heaven_n with_o very_o great_a scorn_n and_o autolye_a maintain_v that_o it_o be_v only_o as_o it_o be_v a_o arch_n which_o be_v
book_n of_o his_o de_fw-fr anima_fw-la he_o also_o with_o irenaeus_n shut_v up_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n after_o they_o be_v depart_v this_o life_n into_o a_o certain_a subterraneous_a place_n where_o they_o be_v to_o remain_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n the_o heaven_n not_o be_v to_o be_v open_v to_o any_o of_o the_o faithful_a till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n only_o he_o allow_v the_o martyr_n their_o entrance_n into_o paradise_n which_o he_o fancy_v to_o be_v some_o place_n beneath_o the_o heaven_n and_o here_o he_o will_v have_v they_o continue_v till_o the_o last_o day_n clausâ_fw-la it_o be_v thy_o blood_n say_v he_o which_o be_v the_o only_a key_n of_o paradise_n and_o this_o place_n whither_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a go_v be_v to_o continue_v close_o shut_v up_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n according_a to_o he_o who_o beside_o be_v of_o a_o quite_o contrary_a opinion_n from_o that_o of_o justin_n martyr_n speak_v of_o before_o and_o maintain_v that_o all_o apparition_n of_o dead_a man_n be_v only_o mere_a illusion_n and_o deceit_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o that_o this_o enclosure_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n shall_v continue_v till_o such_o time_n as_o the_o city_n of_o the_o resurgentium_fw-la new_a jerusalem_n which_o be_v to_o be_v all_o of_o precious_a stone_n shall_v descend_v miraculous_o from_o heaven_n upon_o the_o earth_n and_o shall_v there_o continue_v a_o thousand_o year_n the_o saint_n so_o long_o live_v in_o it_o in_o very_o great_a glory_n and_o that_o during_o this_o space_n the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v to_o be_v accomplish_v by_o degree_n some_o of_o they_o rise_v up_o soon_o and_o some_o late_a according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o their_o merit_n and_o hence_o be_v we_o to_o interpret_v that_o which_o he_o say_v in_o another_o place_n to_o wit_n that_o luendum_fw-la small_a sin_n shall_v be_v punish_v in_o man_n by_o the_o lateness_n of_o their_o resurrection_n and_o that_o etc._n when_o the_o thousand_o year_n be_v expire_v and_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o conflagration_n of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v past_a we_o shall_v all_o be_v change_v in_o a_o moment_n into_o the_o nature_n of_o angel_n i_o pass_v by_o his_o invective_n against_o second_a marriage_n and_o also_o his_o evil_a opinion_n of_o all_o marriage_n in_o general_n these_o fancy_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o discipline_n of_o montanus_n his_o paraclete_n but_o as_o for_o his_o opinion_n touch_v the_o baptism_n of_o heretic_n he_o have_v many_o fellow_n among_o the_o father_n who_o hold_v the_o same_o namely_o that_o their_o admittitur_fw-la baptism_n signify_v nothing_o and_o therefore_o they_o never_o receive_v any_o heretic_n into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o they_o first_o rebaptise_v he_o cleanse_v he_o say_v he_o both_o in_o the_o one_o and_o in_o the_o other_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n by_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o truth_n account_v a_o heretic_n to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o or_o rather_o in_o a_o worse_a condition_n than_o any_o pagan_a and_o as_o for_o the_o rest_n he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o press_v man_n to_o the_o baptise_v of_o their_o child_n while_o they_o be_v young_a which_o yet_o be_v the_o present_a custom_n of_o these_o time_n that_o he_o allow_v and_o indeed_o persuade_v the_o contrary_a not_o only_o in_o child_n but_o even_o in_o person_n of_o riper_n year_n counsel_v they_o to_o defer_v it_o every_o man_n according_a to_o his_o etc._n condition_n disposition_n and_o age._n and_o as_o his_o opinion_n touch_v this_o particular_a be_v not_o much_o different_a from_o that_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n of_o our_o time_n so_o do_v he_o not_o much_o dissent_n from_o they_o neither_o in_o some_o other_o for_o he_o will_v not_o allow_v no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v that_o a_o christian_n shall_v take_v upon_o he_o or_o execute_v any_o office_n of_o judicature_n or_o discinxit_fw-la that_o he_o shall_v condemn_v or_o bind_v or_o imprison_v or_o examine_v any_o man_n or_o that_o he_o shall_v make_v war_n upon_o any_o or_o serve_v in_o war_n under_o any_o other_o say_v express_o that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n by_o disarm_v s._n peter_n have_v from_o henceforth_o take_v off_o every_o soldier_n belt_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v that_o the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n allow_v not_o of_o the_o profession_n of_o soldiery_n so_o that_o i_o can_v but_o extreme_o wonder_v at_o the_o confidence_n shall_v i_o say_v or_o rather_o the_o inadvertency_n of_o 7._o some_o who_o will_v needs_o persuade_v we_o from_o a_o certain_a passage_n of_o this_o author_n which_o themselves_o have_v very_o much_o mistake_v that_o this_o so_o innocent_a and_o peaceable_a father_n maintain_v that_o heretic_n be_v to_o be_v punish_v and_o to_o be_v suppress_v by_o inflict_v upon_o they_o temporal_a punishment_n which_o rigorous_a proceed_n be_v as_o far_o from_o his_o thought_n as_o heaven_n be_v from_o earth_n i_o shall_v add_v here_o before_o i_o go_v any_o further_a that_o etc._n he_o hold_v that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n suffer_v death_n in_o the_o thirty_o year_n of_o his_o age_n which_o be_v manifest_o contrary_a to_o the_o gospel_n and_o he_o think_v also_o that_o the_o 10._o heavenly_a grace_n and_o prophecy_n end_v in_o st._n john_n baptist_n the_o fullness_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v from_o henceforth_o transfer_v unto_o our_o saviour_n christ_n st._n cyprian_n who_o be_v tertullia_n very_o great_a admirer_n call_v he_o absolute_o the_o master_n and_o significans_fw-la who_o never_o let_v any_o day_n pass_v over_o his_o head_n without_o read_v something_o of_o he_o have_v confident_o also_o maintain_v some_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a opinion_n as_o namely_o among_o other_o that_o of_o the_o nullity_n of_o baptism_n by_o heretic_n passim_fw-la which_o he_o descend_v every_o where_o very_o stiff_o have_v also_o the_o most_o eminent_a man_n of_o his_o time_n consent_v with_o he_o in_o this_o point_n as_o namely_o cypr._n firmilianus_n metropolitan_a of_o cappadocia_n eccles_n dionysius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n together_o with_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n cappadocia_n pamphilia_n and_o bythinia_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o anger_n and_o the_o excommunication_n also_o of_o stephen_n bishop_n of_o rome_n etc._n who_o for_o his_o part_n hold_v a_o particular_a opinion_n of_o his_o own_o allow_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o heretic_n without_o rebaptise_v any_o of_o they_o as_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o lxxiv_o epistle_n of_o st._n cyprian_n whereas_o the_o church_n about_o some_o lxv_o year_n after_o at_o the_o 〈◊〉_d council_n of_o nice_a declare_v null_a the_o baptism_n of_o the_o samosatenian_o by_o permit_v as_o it_o seem_v that_o all_o other_o heretic_n whatsoever_o shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n without_o be_v rebaptise_v but_o the_o father_n of_o the_o *_o ii_o general_a council_n go_v yet_o further_o rebaptise_v all_o those_o no_o otherwise_o than_o they_o will_v have_v do_v pagan_n who_o come_v in_o from_o the_o communion_n either_o of_o the_o eunomian_o montanist_n phrygian_n or_o sabellian_o or_o indeed_o any_o other_o heretic_n whatsoever_o save_v only_o the_o arrian_n macedonian_n sabbatians_n novatian_o quartodecimani_n and_o apollinarian_o all_o which_o they_o receive_v without_o rebaptization_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o greek_a copy_n of_o the_o say_a council_n and_o the_o vii_o canon_n which_o canon_n you_o also_o have_v in_o the_o greek_a code_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a num._n clxx_o and_o thus_o you_o see_v that_o stephen_n and_o cyprian_n maintain_v each_o of_o they_o their_o own_o particular_a opinion_n in_o this_o point_n the_o one_o of_o they_o admit_v and_o the_o other_o utter_o reject_v the_o baptism_n of_o all_o manner_n of_o heretic_n whereas_o the_o two_o aforenamed_a general_n council_n neither_o admit_v nor_o reject_v save_v only_o the_o baptism_n of_o some_o certain_a heretic_n only_o but_o st._n cyprian_n however_o seem_v to_o have_v deal_v herein_o much_o more_o fair_o than_o his_o adversary_n see_v that_o amoventés_fw-fr he_o patient_o endure_v and_o be_v not_o offend_v with_o any_o of_o those_o who_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n as_o it_o appear_v clear_o by_o the_o synod_n of_o carthage_n and_o as_o it_o be_v also_o prove_v by_o etc._n st._n hierome_n whereas_o stephen_n according_a to_o his_o own_o hot_a choleric_a temper_n 204._o declare_v public_o against_o firmilianus_n his_o opinion_n and_o firmil_n excommunicate_v all_o those_o that_o dissent_v from_o himself_o the_o same_o bless_a putares_fw-la martyr_n of_o our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n be_v carry_v away_o with_o that_o error_n also_o of_o his_o time_n touch_v the_o necessity_n of_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n to_o all_o person_n when_o they_o be_v baptise_a and_o
circumstance_n which_o be_v necessary_o requisite_a for_o the_o enlighten_v and_o clear_v the_o same_o as_o for_o example_n when_o we_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o scope_n and_o drift_n of_o the_o author_n and_o of_o the_o connexion_n and_o dependency_n of_o his_o discourse_n and_o other_o the_o like_a particular_n which_o be_v requisite_a for_o the_o penetrate_a into_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o writer_n for_o it_o be_v with_o man_n word_n as_o it_o be_v with_o p●eces_n of_o picture_n they_o must_v have_v their_o proper_a light_n to_o show_v themselves_o according_a to_o the_o meaning_n and_o intention_n of_o the_o author_n and_o according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o light_n we_o see_v they_o by_o they_o also_o have_v a_o different_a appearance_n as_o for_o example_n if_o any_o one_o shall_v now_o 〈◊〉_d alone_o and_o bare_o without_o reference_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o discourse_n and_o history_n of_o its_o author_n this_o short_a passage_n of_o dionysius_n alexandrinus_n where_o he_o call_v the_o son_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o workmanship_n or_o manufacture_n of_o the_o father_n 〈◊〉_d and_o add_v certain_a other_o very_a shange_v term_n also_o touch_v this_o particular_a as_o we_o daily_o see_v the_o custom_n of_o some_o be_v in_o the_o business_n of_o our_o present_a controversy_n to_o produce_v the_o like_a shred_n and_o little_a short_a passage_n sever_v from_o the_o main_a body_n of_o the_o discourse_n whereof_o they_o be_v a_o part_n which_o of_o we_o how_o able_a so_o ever_o he_o be_v can_v possible_o imagine_v ●ny_n thing_n e●se_n but_o that_o this_o be_v a_o absolute_a 〈◊〉_d expression_n and_o such_o as_o can_v be_v interpret_v to_o any_o other_o sense_n and_o yet_o athanasius_n in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v make_v it_o plain_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o and_o by_o the_o advantage_n of_o those_o through_o light_n which_o he_o have_v in_o the_o subject_a there_o treat_v of_o by_o the_o author_n he_o demonstrate_v unto_o we_o that_o this_o expression_n of_o dionystus_n how_o strange_a soever_o it_o appear_v have_v notwithstanding_o a_o good_a and_o allowable_a sense_n in_o that_o place_n and_o that_o we_o may_v be_v able_a more_o full_o to_o apprehend_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o our_o assertion_n we_o shall_v in_o the_o next_o place_n take_v into_o consideration_n some_o other_o cause_n of_o the_o obscurity_n of_o the_o father_n among_o which_o i_o shall_v rank_v in_o the_o first_o place_n their_o have_v sometime_o purposely_o and_o upon_o design_n endeavour_v either_o whole_o to_o conceal_v their_o conception_n from_o we_o or_o at_o least_o to_o lay_v they_o down_o not_o naked_a and_o open_a but_o as_o it_o be_v with_o a_o curtain_n and_o that_o sometime_o a_o very_a thick_a one_o too_o draw_v over_o they_o to_o the_o end_n that_o none_o but_o those_o of_o the_o quick_a and_o most_o pierce_a eye_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o penetrate_v into_o they_o some_o of_o their_o meditation_n have_v be_v such_o as_o they_o themselves_o account_v either_o less_o useful_a or_o else_o perhaps_o such_o as_o it_o be_v not_o so_o safe_a to_o commit_v to_o weak_a vulgar_a spirit_n whether_o this_o practice_n of_o they_o be_v raise_v upon_o good_a ground_n or_o not_o i_o shall_v not_o here_o stand_v to_o examine_v it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o to_o show_v that_o it_o be_v usual_a with_o they_o as_o may_v appear_v among_o the_o rest_n 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o clement_n alexandrinus_n about_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o stromateis_n where_o give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o design_n of_o his_o book_n he_o say_v that_o he_o have_v pass_v over_o some_o thing_n in_o silence_n fear_v to_o write_v that_o which_o he_o make_v some_o simple_a even_o to_o speak_v of_o not_o that_o he_o envy_v his_o reader_n any_o thing_n but_o fear_v rather_o lest_o they_o may_v happy_o out_o of_o a_o misunderstanding_n of_o they_o fall_v into_o error_n and_o so_o he_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v put_v a_o sword_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o child_n he_o add_v further_a that_o he_o have_v handle_v something_n clear_o and_o some_o other_o obscure_o lay_v the_o one_o open_a to_o our_o view_n but_o wrap_v up_o the_o other_o in_o riddle_n but_o that_o which_o make_v most_o to_o our_o present_a purpose_n be_v that_o they_o be_v know_v to_o have_v take_v this_o course_n particular_o in_o some_o certain_a of_o those_o point_n which_o be_v now_o controvert_v among_o we_o as_o namely_o in_o that_o touch_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n for_o as_o they_o celebrate_v their_o holy_a mystery_n in_o secret_a and_o apart_o by_o themselves_o not_o admit_v either_o the_o pagan_n 26._o or_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la nor_o yet_o as_o some_o assure_v we_o any_o person_n whatsoever_o save_v only_o the_o communicant_o to_o the_o sight_n of_o they_o in_o like_a manner_n also_o in_o their_o write_n especial_o in_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v read_v open_o to_o the_o people_n in_o their_o public_a assembly_n they_o never_o speak_v but_o very_o obscure_o and_o dark_o as_o have_v be_v observe_v in_o point_n of_o the_o eucharist_n by_o cardinal_n perron_n and_o by_o casaubon_n 16._o petavius_n and_o other_o in_o the_o point_n of_o baptism_n confirmation_n and_o other_o holy_a ceremony_n of_o the_o christian_n do_v but_o observe_v how_o wary_a theodoret_n epiphanius_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n be_v in_o name_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o eucharist_n describe_v it_o in_o general_a term_n only_o and_o such_o as_o they_o only_o can_v understand_v who_o have_v be_v former_o partaker_n of_o that_o holy_a sacrament_n i_o shall_v not_o here_o take_v upon_o i_o to_o examine_v the_o end_n which_o they_o propose_v to_o themselves_o in_o so_o do_v which_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v to_o beget_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la a_o great_a reverence_n and_o esteem_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o withal_o a_o more_o earnest_a and_o eager_a desire_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o partake_v of_o they_o fear_v lest_o haply_o the_o lay_v open_a and_o discourse_v plain_o of_o the_o matter_n and_o manner_n of_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v something_o take_v off_o from_o one_o of_o these_o two_o affection_n in_o they_o see_v therefore_o that_o not_o only_o in_o this_o but_o in_o divers_a other_o particular_n also_o they_o have_v purposely_o and_o upon_o design_n conceal_v their_o sense_n and_o opinion_n from_o we_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o account_v it_o so_o strange_a a_o matter_n if_o we_o many_o time_n find_v their_o expression_n to_o be_v obscure_a and_o which_o be_v a_o consequence_n of_o obscurity_n if_o they_o sometime_o also_o seem_v to_o clash_v and_o contradict_v one_o another_o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v more_o to_o be_v wonder_v at_o if_o these_o man_n who_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n able_a learned_a man_n have_v a_o purpose_n of_o write_v obscure_o on_o these_o point_n shall_v yet_o have_v leave_v we_o their_o opinion_n clear_o and_o plain_o deliver_v in_o their_o write_n but_o there_o be_v more_o in_o it_o yet_o than_o so_o for_o sometime_o also_o even_o where_o they_o have_v no_o purpose_n of_o be_v so_o they_o yet_o be_v very_o obscure_a and_o sometime_o again_o the_o little_a conversation_n they_o have_v have_v with_o those_o art_n which_o be_v requisite_a for_o the_o polish_n of_o language_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o not_o express_v themselves_o so_o clear_o and_o sometime_o perhaps_o their_o genius_n and_o natural_a disposition_n may_v be_v the_o reason_n hereof_o all_o their_o study_n and_o industry_n they_o can_v take_v not_o be_v able_a to_o correct_v this_o natural_a defect_n in_o they_o i_o believe_v we_o may_v very_o safe_o reckon_v epiphanius_n in_o the_o first_o rank_n of_o these_o kind_n of_o writer_n who_o be_v indeed_o a_o good_a and_o holy_a man_n but_o yet_o have_v be_v very_o little_a conversant_a in_o the_o art_n either_o of_o rhetoric_n or_o grammar_n as_o appear_v sufficient_o out_o of_o his_o write_n where_o you_o shall_v often_o find_v he_o fail_v not_o only_o in_o the_o clearness_n of_o his_o expression_n and_o the_o course_n and_o fit_a contrivance_n of_o his_o period_n but_o also_o even_o in_o the_o order_n and_o method_n which_o be_v the_o true_a light_n of_o all_o discourse_n which_o defect_n must_v necessary_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o much_o obscurity_n in_o very_a many_o place_n as_o indeed_o be_v much_o complain_v of_o by_o the_o interpreter_n of_o this_o father_n other_o perhaps_o there_o have_v be_v who_o have_v endeavour_v to_o polish_v their_o language_n by_o art_n who_o yet_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o compass_v their_o desire_n whether_o it_o be_v because_o they_o begin_v too_o late_o or_o else_o perhaps_o through_o the_o dulness_n of_o their_o wit_n and_o want_v of_o capacity_n as_o we_o see_v all_o nature_n be_v