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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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he_o may_v go_v which_o nay_o i_o will_v be_v drive_v 2_o though_o we_o have_v say_v much_o already_o 18._o already_o see_v before_o on_o our_o form_n of_o argument_n on_o these_o text_n matth._n 19_o mar_n 10._o luk._n 18._o for_o proof_n that_o of_o such_o must_v relate_v to_o the_o infant_n yet_o we_o now_o add_v this_o 1_o that_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v give_v as_o a_o reason_n why_o the_o disciple_n shall_v suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v unto_o he_o for_o say_v he_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n now_o this_o will_v have_v be_v but_o a_o strange_a piece_n of_o sense_n from_o christ_n mouth_n suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v etc._n etc._n for_o heaven_n belong_v to_o humble_a man_n of_o ripe_a year_n 2_o that_o therefore_o the_o reason_n may_v hold_v good_a child_n must_v at_o least_o be_v include_v in_o such_o as_o a_o part_n 3_o that_o little_a child_n must_v be_v main_o include_v because_o these_o be_v propound_v as_o the_o original_a as_o it_o be_v the_o humble_a man_n but_o the_o copy_n these_o man_n do_v but_o write_v after_o those_o infant_n as_o their_o sample_n or_o pattern_n obj._n but_o mr._n t._n say_v christ_n expound_v the_o word_n such_o mar._n 10.15_o luk._n 18.17_o of_o man_n who_o in_o humility_n of_o mind_n be_v little_a child_n ans_fw-fr mr._n t._n must_v not_o call_v christ_n occasional_a discourse_n and_o allusion_n exposition_n see_v luk._n 14.15_o for_o at_o a_o civil_a feast_n he_o take_v occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o a_o spiritual_a eat_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o the_o exposition_n of_o that_o a_o multitude_n of_o like_a instance_n may_v be_v give_v so_o when_o christ_n say_v here_o mar._n 10.15_o whosoever_o
thus_o 3_o exercit._fw-la sect._n 3_o if_o baptism_n be_v not_o grant_v to_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n than_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n will_v be_v more_o restrain_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n then_o in_o the_o old_a but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v affirm_v therefore_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n of_o believer_n these_o be_v all_o the_o form_n of_o argument_n from_o gen._n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la 17.7_o etc._n etc._n as_o mr._n t._n report_n but_o he_o report_v not_o all_o the_o form_n nor_o the_o all_o of_o those_o form_n he_o report_v for_o with_o great_a injury_n to_o these_o three_o argument_n some_o material_a thing_n be_v leave_v out_o of_o every_o one_o of_o they_o by_o mr._n t._n as_o we_o shall_v plain_o declare_v when_o we_o come_v to_o animadvert_v upon_o his_o answer_n to_o they_o mean_a while_n let_v we_o tell_v the_o reader_n that_o there_o be_v other_o form_n of_o argument_n draw_v from_o gen._n 17.7_o etc._n etc._n and_o long_a since_o in_o print_n anabaptist_n see_v mr._n ainsworths_n answer_n to_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o those_o to_o our_o apprehension_n very_o considerable_a and_o to_o be_v put_v in_o the_o first_o place_n in_o this_o dispute_n according_a to_o order_v of_o method_n if_o not_o of_o nature_n too_o therefore_o let_v the_o reader_n that_o ingenuous_o read_v to_o know_v and_o not_o to_o quarrel_v that_o he_o may_v not_o know_v patient_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o set_v they_o down_o and_o brief_o urge_v the_o vigour_n of_o they_o and_o then_o we_o will_v lay_v aside_o all_o to_o give_v he_o those_o short_a note_n we_o have_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o exercitation_n our_o first_o form_n of_o argument_n from_o gen._n 17.7_o etc._n etc._n be_v this_o urge_v by_o mr._n ainsw_n in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n where_o there_o be_v a_o command_n for_o a_o thing_n never_o remand_v or_o contramand_v there_o the_o thing_n be_v still_o in_o force_n but_o there_o be_v a_o command_n for_o signe_v the_o infant_n of_o a_o believer_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n gen._n 17.7.9_o never_o yet_o remand_v or_o contramand_v therefore_o the_o sign_v believer_n child_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n namely_o baptism_n now_o be_v still_o in_o force_n so_o he_o for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o minor_n if_o any_o where_n there_o be_v any_o institution_n of_o baptise_v only_a man_n of_o ripe_a year_n then_o in_o matth._n 28._o but_o not_o there_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v more_o after_o mean_v while_o the_o argument_n hence_o against_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n lie_v not_o 1_o in_o the_o order_n of_o word_n for_o the_o order_n be_v invert_v and_o contrary_a mar._n 1.4_o 2_o not_o in_o the_o affirmativenesse_n one_o affirmative_a without_o a_o determinate_a word_n express_v do_v not_o take_v off_o another_o affirmative_a 3_o the_o universal_a term_n can_v note_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n viz._n all_o nation_n for_o then_o all_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d will_v answer_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o answer_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d observe_v that_o nation_n here_o mention_v well_o answer_v to_o nation_n gen._n 17._o explain_v rom._n 4._o gal._n 3._o that_o as_o infant_n of_o believe_a abraham_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v so_o the_o infant_n of_o believe_a gentile_n to_o be_v baptize_v 4_o not_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o that_o must_v needs_o signify_v make_v disciple_n for_o 1_o its_o unlikely_a that_o so_o great_a a_o controversy_n as_o the_o anabap_n make_v of_o the_o subject_a of_o baptism_n shall_v have_v no_o clear_a a_o institution_n than_o a_o gr._n criticism_n of_o take_v one_o sense_n of_o a_o word_n that_o be_v take_v divers_a way_n for_o significat_fw-la &_o docere_fw-la in_o mat._n 28._o legh_n crit._n s._n novar_n in_o mat._n 28.20_o aliquando_fw-la est_fw-la verbum_fw-la transit_fw-la pro_fw-la docere_fw-la ut_fw-la mat._n 28._o whitak_n descript_n the_o great_a arias_n render_v it_o only_o docete_fw-la teach_v so_o the_o renown_a vatablus_n so_o the_o syr●_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o arab._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o many_o other_o which_o for_o brevity_n we_o omit_v 2_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o v._o 19_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v._n 20._o therefore_o most_o likely_a in_o v._o 19_o it_o signify_v only_o a_o general_a teach_n and_o so_o the_o great_a critic_n &_o learned_a man_n in_o gr._n tongue_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o teach_v they_o that_o be_v stranger_n to_o doctrine_n that_o they_o may_v become_v disciple_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o teach_v they_o that_o be_v disciple_n so_o that_o here_o in_o v._o 19_o be_v not_o mean_v a_o exact_a complete_a platform_n of_o christ_n commission_n to_o the_o apostle_n for_o here_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n but_o only_o the_o name_n of_o the_o two_o more_o usual_a thing_n viz._n teach_v and_o baptise_v and_o not_o the_o matter_n of_o subject_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n 3_o the_o holy_a ghost_n render_v this_o text_n mar._n 16.15_o by_o plain_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preach_v the_o gospel_n 4_o if_o the_o greek_a word_n shall_v be_v take_v in_o that_o peculiar_a sense_n than_o the_o sentence_n will_v run_v thus_o therefore_o make_v all_o nation_n disciple_n which_o for_o these_o 1600_o year_n be_v never_o do_v in_o any_o nation_n 5_o nor_o can_v the_o gender_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answer_v to_o the_o neuter_a gender_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v that_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v for_o if_o we_o stick_v so_o precise_o to_o the_o gender_n than_o woman_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v if_o we_o keep_v to_o the_o gender_n as_o to_o relate_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d than_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v call_v disciple_n act._n 15._o 10._o they_o upon_o who_o neck_n the_o false_a teacher_n will_v put_v the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n be_v call_v disciple_n but_o the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n be_v put_v upon_o child_n as_o well_o as_o man_n and_o according_a to_o their_o institution_n upon_o child_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a gen._n 17.12_o and_o so_o to_o continue_v unless_o in_o some_o great_a impediment_n as_o in_o the_o wilderness_n and_o therefore_o out_o of_o doubt_v those_o false_a teacher_n that_o urge_v here_o that_o the_o grow_v disciple_n shall_v be_v circumcise_v urge_v that_o their_o child_n shall_v be_v circumcise_v also_o therefore_o child_n be_v call_v disciple_n for_o which_o two_o reason_n 1_o the_o child_n be_v reckon_v with_o the_o parent_n in_o all_o ordinance_n communicable_a to_o both_o by_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n as_o till_o the_o jew_n be_v break_v off_o rom._n 11._o till_o the_o vineyard_n be_v let_v out_o luke_n 20._o circumcision_n go_v along_o with_o the_o parent_n to_o child_n when_o parent_n lose_v it_o the_o child_n lose_v it_o when_o ishmael_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n his_o posterity_n be_v not_o circumcise_v that_o we_o read_v of_o by_o the_o same_o proportion_n baptism_n go_v along_o from_o parent_n to_o child_n 2_o there_o be_v a_o double_a preach_n and_o a_o double_a sacrament_n a_o preach_v to_o the_o heart_n and_o to_o the_o ear_n a_o innitiate_a and_o a_o corroborate_n sacrament_n god_n can_v preach_v to_o the_o heart_n when_v not_o to_o the_o ear_n he_o a_o spirit_n can_v preach_v to_o a_o spirit_n without_o sentence_n and_o so_o to_o child_n this_o preach_v be_v most_o suitable_a to_o infant_n because_o thus_o man_n be_v altogether_o passive_a so_o the_o innitiate_a sacrament_n be_v fit_a for_o infant_n because_o in_o that_o they_o can_v be_v but_o passive_a the_o soul_n of_o a_o infant_n be_v out_o of_o the_o body_n all_o one_o with_o a_o angel_n and_o therefore_o one_o define_v a_o soul_n a_o angel_n in_o a_o body_n if_o the_o body_n can_v act_v yet_o god_n can_v act_v without_o the_o body_n as_o we_o see_v great_a revelation_n vision_n etc._n etc._n be_v give_v when_o the_o body_n be_v asleep_a and_o unuseful_a see_v the_o patriarch_n etc._n etc._n and_o paul_n see_v a_o most_o glorious_a vision_n when_o he_o have_v no_o use_n of_o his_o body_n 2_o cor._n 12._o to_o make_v the_o inward_a work_n of_o grace_n to_o depend_v on_o the_o body_n be_v like_o the_o pelagian_o and_o arminian_o yea_o worse_a to_o make_v a_o work_n depend_v not_o only_o on_o reason_n but_o on_o sense_n 2_o form_n of_o argum._n from_o gen._n 17._o be_v this_o to_o who_o the_o covenant_n in_o force_n run_v in_o the_o same_o tenor_n in_o the_o
of_o circumcision_n be_v only_o accidental_o and_o extraordinary_o except_v upon_o the_o aforesaid_a reason_n no_o more_o than_o the_o israelite_n forty_o year_n journey_n in_o the_o wilderness_n hinder_v circumcision_n so_o long_o do_v detract_v from_o the_o ordinary_a institution_n and_o ground_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o we_o ans_fw-fr to_o both_o the_o conclusion_n that_o the_o claim_n to_o this_o promise_n which_o mr._n tomb_n confess_v 3._o confess_v exercitat_fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 2._o 3._o to_o be_v evangelical_n in_o the_o substance_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o of_o thy_o seed_n be_v the_o adequate_a reason_n in_o the_o ordinary_a prosecution_n of_o circumcise_n for_o though_o the_o institution_n than_o be_v to_o abraham_n family_n and_o to_o the_o male_n etc._n etc._n yet_o the_o ground_n be_v the_o promise_n i_o be_o thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n and_o so_o federate_a and_o to_o be_v sign_v be_v convertible_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o ground_n upon_o which_o it_o follow_v that_o abraham_n be_v to_o have_v a_o gentile_a seed_n rom._n 4._o gal._n 3._o to_o which_o the_o same_o promise_n shall_v run_v i_o be_o your_o god_n therefore_o the_o god_n of_o your_o seed_n however_o if_o federate_a and_o to_o be_v sign_v be_v not_o convertible_a term_n but_o only_o this_o true_a that_o all_o federate_a be_v to_o be_v sign_v as_o thus_o such_o as_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v give_v i_o be_o your_o god_n and_o so_o of_o your_o seed_n be_v circumcise_v their_o child_n by_o nature_n or_o adoption_n as_o it_o be_v gen._n 17.12_o 13._o ought_v to_o be_v circumcise_v thus_o much_o will_v serve_v our_o turn_n out_o of_o gen._n 17._o for_o the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n child_n though_o we_o can_v not_o turn_v the_o proposition_n convertible_o that_o all_o circumcise_a or_o baptize_v be_v true_o and_o effectual_o federate_a in_o covenant_n but_o how_o it_o may_v be_v turn_v we_o have_v show_v afore_o and_o thus_o i_o leave_v the_o ingenuous_a reader_n to_o judge_v how_o great_a or_o how_o little_a reason_n mr._n t._n have_v to_o deny_v the_o major_a or_o minor_a proposition_n of_o the_o 1_o argument_n out_o of_o gen._n 17._o and_o to_o his_o reason_n of_o deny_v the_o minor_a 5._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 5._o because_o say_v he_o those_o child_n of_o believe_a gentile_n be_v abraham_n child_n who_o be_v his_o spiritual_a seed_n according_a to_o the_o election_n of_o grace_n by_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o know_v to_o we_o but_o by_o profession_n or_o special_a revelation_n we_o answer_v that_o we_o must_v beware_v of_o circumcise_n and_o cut_v off_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o covenant_n take_v only_o thus_o much_o as_o many_o do_v i_o be_o thy_o god_n or_o draw_v it_o out_o beyond_o its_o length_n as_o other_o do_v thus_o i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n feed_v but_o take_v it_o even_o up_o as_o god_n lay_v it_o down_o just_a thus_o i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o give_v the_o 1._o sign_n or_o seal_n and_o than_o it_o be_v easy_o resolve_v who_o be_v abraham_n seed_n and_o to_o be_v sign_v among_o the_o gentile_n namely_o he_o that_o believe_v that_o god_n be_v his_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o his_o seed_n may_v sign_n his_o seed_n with_o baptism_n the_o parent_n know_v his_o child_n belong_v to_o it_o by_o the_o revelation_n of_o the_o word_n and_o his_o own_o confession_n of_o faith_n in_o his_o heart_n and_o mouth_n chap._n iii_o 2_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n be_v thus_o form_v 2._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 2._o to_o who_o circumcision_n do_v agree_v to_o they_o baptism_n do_v agree_v *_o but_o to_o infant_n circumcision_n do_v agree_o therefore_o also_o baptism_n the_o major_n be_v thus_o prove_v if_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n succeed_v into_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n than_o baptism_n belong_v to_o they_o that_o circumcision_n belong_v to_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a there_o also_o the_o consequent_a the_o minor_a be_v prove_v to_o be_v true_a because_o colos_n 2.11_o 12._o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o colossian_n be_v circumcise_v because_o they_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n in_o baptism_n here_o we_o must_v complain_v again_o animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o somewhat_o be_v most_o injurious_o leave_v out_o of_o the_o minor_a proposition_n of_o the_o former_a syllogism_n namely_o of_o that_o proposition_n above_o note_v with_o *_o but_o to_o infant_n circumcision_n do_v agree_o where_o the_o word_n of_o believer_n be_v leave_v out_o which_o shall_v necessary_o have_v be_v put_v in_o thus_o but_o to_o infant_n of_o believer_n circumcision_n do_v agree_v the_o leave_v out_o of_o which_o word_n how_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n it_o will_v bring_v to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n etc._n etc._n every_o ordinary_a capacity_n will_v easy_o conceive_v for_o answer_v 5._o exercit._fw-la p._n 5._o this_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n suppose_v baptism_n to_o succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n which_o may_v be_v understand_v divers_a way_n 1_o so_o as_o that_o the_o sense_n be_v that_o those_o person_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o heretofore_o by_o god_n command_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v and_o in_o this_o sense_n the_o argument_n must_v proceed_v if_o it_o conclude_v to_o the_o purpose_n but_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v false_a for_o no_o female_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v which_o yet_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v act._n 16.14_o 15._o and_o believer_n out_o of_o abraham_n house_n as_o lot_z melchisedech_n job_n be_v not_o to_o be_v circumcise_v but_o believe_v gentile_n be_v universal_o to_o be_v baptize_v we_o answer_v 1._o animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o collation_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n must_v be_v adidem_fw-la to_o the_o very_a point_n in_o hand_n thus_o that_o those_o person_n that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o material_a sign_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v as_o those_o which_o be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v by_o god_n command_n but_o all_o male_a infant_n of_o believer_n of_o abraham_n race_n be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v according_a to_o god_n command_n unless_o some_o extraordinary_a let_v step_v in_o for_o a_o time_n as_o in_o moses_n child_n and_o in_o the_o israelite_n for_o forty_o year_n in_o the_o wilderness_n therefore_o all_o infant_n of_o believer_n both_o male_a and_o female_a be_v capable_a of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v unless_o this_o rule_n be_v observe_v we_o shall_v hardly_o allow_v any_o deduction_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o our_o use_n in_o the_o new_a 2_o in_o our_o illation_n and_o inference_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n we_o must_v not_o throw_v away_o all_o the_o command_n upon_o a_o promise_n there_o because_o the_o new_a testament_n practice_n extend_v it_o further_o upon_o the_o same_o promise_n it_o be_v 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2._o p._n 27._o of_o 1_o edit_n there_o be_v that_o conceive_v &_o that_o not_o improbable_a that_o in_o ancient_a time_n the_o child_n baptize_v in_o the_o church_n be_v not_o receive_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o into_o the_o full_a fruition_n of_o all_o church-liberty_n until_o that_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o year_n do_v public_o before_o the_o church_n profess_v their_o faith_n and_o ratify_v the_o covenant_n make_v for_o they_o in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v as_o they_o call_v it_o in_o their_o church_n estate_n which_o be_v not_o do_v without_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o some_o judicious_a divine_n have_v conceive_v to_o be_v one_o cause_n why_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v reckon_v as_o one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n hebr._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church_n estate_n and_o order_n now_o than_o if_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v ancient_o confirm_v in_o the_o full_a fruition_n of_o the_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n than_o there_o be_v none_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o have_v receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n much_o more_o the_o ruling-elders_a who_o over_o and_o above_o the_o former_a be_v ordain_v to_o their_o public_a office_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o so_o have_v receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n themselves_o they_o may_v more_o free_o lay_v hand_n on_o other_o so_o mr._n cotton_n by_o all_o this_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o christ_n on_o these_o little_a child_n in_o the_o text_n afore_o quote_v matth._n 17._o mar._n 10._o luk._n 18._o according_a to_o the_o order_n set_v down_o by_o the_o apostle_n hebr._n 6.2_o do_v succeed_v and_o follow_v after_o their_o baptism_n as_o suppose_v and_o grant_v to_o be_v baptize_v afore_o obj._n but_o say_v the_o anabaptist_n it_o be_v in_o the_o text_n of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v of_o man_n like_o infant_n answ_n 1._o we_o hear_v afore_o how_o mr._n beza_n render_v it_o of_o these_o and_o the_o like_a as_o relate_v to_o little_a child_n and_o his_o grave_n and_o learned_a pious_a judgement_n be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v credit_v as_o any_o anabaptist_n in_o say_v it_o be_v so_o or_o so_o 2_o the_o greek_a author_n do_v oft_o take_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o for_o hoc_fw-la this_o plaet_fw-la bud._n const_n plaet_fw-la 3_o if_o render_v such_o it_o be_v far_o more_o natural_a and_o not_o so_o far_o fetch_v to_o say_v of_o such_o little_a child_n of_o who_o the_o story_n be_v then_o of_o such_o man_n but_o fourthly_a come_v to_o reason_n christ_n mar._n 10.16_o speak_v of_o they_o who_o he_o take_v up_o in_o his_o arm_n vessius_fw-la pass_n vessius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o arm_n luk._n 2.28_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ulna_fw-la per_fw-la epenthesin_n literarum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o he_o take_v up_o not_o the_o man_n but_o the_o little_a child_n into_o his_o arm_n and_o lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o and_o bless_v they_o therefore_o of_o they_o he_o speak_v and_o show_v that_o heaven_n and_o the_o blessing_n of_o heaven_n belong_v to_o they_o 5_o that_o by_o discourse_n upon_o this_o v._o 15._o whosoever_o shall_v not_o receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n as_o a_o little_a child_n shall_v not_o enter_v therein_o be_v also_o for_o we_o for_o the_o thing_n and_o the_o comparison_n must_v agree_v in_o the_o main_a scope_n but_o man_n must_v as_o little_a child_n receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n therefore_o little_a child_n be_v in_o a_o
that_o it_o be_v a_o sleight_n conjecture_v if_o any_o infant_n be_v here_o that_o they_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v in_o this_o house_n as_o sure_o they_o be_v baptize_v as_o that_o they_o be_v the_o gaoler_n six_o to_o that_o ver_fw-la 34._o he_o rejoice_v believe_v god_n ●●●h_v all_o his_o household_n which_o be_v one_o of_o mr._n tomb_n his_o evince_a argument_n we_o say_v that_o the_o greek_a must_v be_v accurat_o heed_v that_o we_o may_v speak_v just_a so_o as_o the_o spirit_n speak_v for_o first_o that_o which_o divers_a render_v confident_o with_o all_o his_o house_n be_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o adverbe_n which_o signify_v neither_o with_o nor_o he_o nor_o house_n but_o throughout_o or_o over_o all_o the_o house_n or_o family_n 2_o that_o the_o point_v and_o place_v of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o english_a do_v not_o answer_v so_o well_o to_o the_o best_a greek_a copy_n as_o it_o may_v for_o the_o greek_a copy_n that_o arius_n pagn_n old_a lat_fw-la which_o follow_v a_o ancient_a greek_a and_o therefore_o very_o considerable_a in_o its_o various_a reading_n of_o word_n and_o point_n say_v learned_a usher_n put_v away_o the_o point_n at_o rejoice_v so_o that_o no_o more_o can_v be_v evince_v but_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v this_o he_o joy_v with_o exultation_n or_o triumph_n over_o towards_o or_o throughout_o all_o his_o house_n or_o family_n he_o have_v believe_v god_n so_o just_a according_a to_o the_o true_a idiom_n and_o propriety_n and_o order_n of_o word_n in_o all_o greek_a copy_n and_o according_a to_o the_o point_v in_o the_o best_a reason_n assent_v for_o why_o do_v he_o exult_v or_o skip_v as_o in_o a_o dance_n of_o a_o galliar_a as_o the_o greek_a import_v with_o triumph_n but_o because_o he_o believe_v he_o believe_v rejoice_v triumphant_o he_o rejoice_v with_o triumph_n his_o family_n joy_n be_v raise_v and_o lighten_v even_o child_n smile_v when_o the_o parent_n rejoice_v let_v they_o therefore_o look_v to_o this_o that_o mash_n the_o text_n and_o un_fw-fr pronounce_v unperson_n and_o unnumber_v the_o word_n and_o dispoint_v the_o sentence_n as_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v read_v the_o gaoler_n rejoice_v because_o all_o his_o family_n actual_o believe_v 7_o that_o though_o mr._n t._n answer_v to_o crispus_n yet_o nothing_o to_o gaius_n it_o gaius_n consult_v 3._o ep_n of_o joh._n v._n 1._o and_o the_o new_a note_n on_o the_o bible_n upon_o it_o for_o sure_a he_o have_v a_o family_n as_o well_o as_o crispus_n nor_o to_o the_o family_n of_o stephanas_n be_v any_o anabaptist_n sure_a there_o be_v no_o infant_n in_o these_o family_n or_o that_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v why_o then_o do_v they_o put_v it_o upon_o we_o as_o a_o infallibility_n that_o no_o infant_n be_v baptize_v in_o these_o family_n or_o any_o else_o for_o that_o of_o crispus_n mr._n t._n and_o i_o must_v leave_v it_o as_o we_o find_v it_o it_o appear_v not_o evident_o in_o the_o grammar_n of_o the_o word_n that_o crispus_n be_v baptize_v chap._n ix_o some_o other_o argument_n occur_v exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la which_o make_v a_o number_n without_o strength_n why_o then_o do_v mr_n tomb_n reckon_v upon_o cipher_n animadver_n animadver_n 〈◊〉_d examine_v exercitat_fw-la §_o 5._o the_o argument_n from_o general_a promise_n for_o infant-baptisme_n examine_v it_o be_v argue_v from_o general_a promise_n make_v to_o the_o godly_a and_o their_o seed_n exod._n 20.6_o psal_n 112.2_o etc._n etc._n whence_o it_o be_v gather_v that_o god_n make_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o child_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o the_o wicked_a that_o he_o promise_v blessing_n to_o those_o not_o to_o these_o therefore_o the_o child_n of_o the_o godly_a be_v to_o be_v baptize_v not_o the_o other_o answ_n the_o promise_v recite_v be_v first_o general_n and_o indefinite_a second_o for_o the_o most_o part_n concern_v corporal_a good_a thing_n three_o with_o the_o exception_n of_o free_a election_n fourthly_a to_o be_v understand_v with_o the_o employ_v condition_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o serve_v not_o to_o this_o purpose_n we_o reply_v to_o the_o first_o if_o general_a and_o indefinite_a from_o god_n animadver_n animadver_n therefore_o not_o to_o be_v restrain_v by_o man_n from_o all_o those_o god_n mention_n to_o the_o second_o if_o for_o the_o mostpart_n concern_v corporal_n yet_o mr_n t._n dare_v not_o say_v altogether_o if_o some_o spiritual_n mean_v it_o be_v to_o the_o purpose_n second_o in_o exod._n 20.6_o the_o judgement_n there_o on_o sin_n must_v needs_o signsfie_v those_o that_o be_v spiritual_a therefore_o by_o the_o antithesis_fw-la spiritual_a mercy_n must_v be_v understand_v three_o in_o that_o 112._o psal_n v._o 2._o to_o expound_v that_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o upright_o shall_v be_v bless_v that_o be_v with_o outward_a thing_n be_v to_o say_v they_o shall_v have_v no_o more_o than_o what_o multitude_n if_o not_o most_o of_o wicked_a man_n child_n have_v which_o in_o gospell-english_a be_v to_o say_v they_o be_v curse_v their_o table_n may_v be_v make_v a_o snare_n psal_n 69.22_o and_o these_o be_v the_o ungodly_a that_o prosper_v in_o the_o world_n psal_n 73.12_o to_o the_o three_o that_o the_o promise_n to_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n also_o be_v with_o the_o exception_n of_o free_a election_n so_o rom._n 9.18_o speak_v of_o they_o that_o stand_v in_o opposition_n over_o against_o rebellious_a pharaoh_n to_o the_o four_o we_o say_v first_o that_o promise_n must_v be_v considerable_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n so_o as_o to_o come_v &_o wait_v under_o the_o press_v they_o or_o else_o they_o will_v not_o be_v comfortable_a mean_n to_o work_v actual_a faith_n and_o repentance_n in_o they_o second_o that_o mr_n t._n can_v say_v that_o infant_n be_v uncapable_a of_o faith_n for_o if_o john_n baptist_n while_o a_o child_n be_v full_a of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n sure_o he_o have_v that_o fruit_n of_o it_o faith_n in_o the_o habit_n and_o those_o little_a one_o ghrist_n bless_v can_v not_o be_v bless_v without_o union_n with_o christ_n which_o be_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o faith_n second_o examine_v exercistat_fw-la §_o 9_o the_o argument_n from_o isa_n 49.22_o for_o infant-baptisme_n examine_v from_o isai_n 49.22_o it_o be_v foretell_v that_o gentile_n shall_v therefore_o the_o prophet_n foresee_v in_o spirit_n the_o baptism_n of_o the_o little_a one_o of_o the_o gentile_n answ_n first_o little_a one_o may_v be_v bring_v for_o other_o end_n than_o baptism_n as_o mat._n 19.15_o second_o i_o will_v use_v the_o word_n of_o francis_n junius_n in_o his_o annotation_n on_o the_o place_n all_z these_o thing_n be_v say_v allegorical_o of_o the_o spiritual_a amplification_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o prophet_n be_v wont_a they_o be_v fulfil_v in_o the_o persuasion_n in_o which_o the_o gentile_n exhort_v their_o child_n to_o embrace_v christ_n we_o reply_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o the_o first_o that_o infant_n in_o that_o place_n mat._n 19.15_o be_v bring_v for_o a_o high_a thing_n than_o baptism_n as_o we_o show_v and_o mr_n t._n confess_v afore_o on_o that_o text_n therefore_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o a_o low_a viz._n baptism_n second_o sure_o they_o shall_v bring_v their_o child_n to_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o king_n and_o prince_n shall_v submit_v spiritual_o as_o constantine_n etc._n etc._n do_v and_o this_o the_o gentile_a parent_n shall_v do_v for_o their_o child_n in_o bring_v they_o upon_o the_o lift_n up_o of_o god_n hand_n and_o standard_n that_o be_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o mr_n t._n his_o junius_n note_n son_n that_o place_n and_o therefore_o must_v bring_v their_o child_n who_o they_o be_v fain_o to_o carry_v in_o their_o arm_n and_o on_o their_o shoulder_n for_o somewhat_o these_o child_n may_v have_v from_o the_o gospel_n or_o else_o as_o good_a they_o have_v be_v leave_v at_o home_n in_o the_o cradle_n or_o bed_n and_o there_o be_v no_o former_a or_o low_a ordinance_n for_o child_n then_o the_o first_o seal_n as_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n so_o in_o the_o new_a to_o the_o second_o the_o word_n of_o junius_n we_o reply_v first_o so_o the_o gentile_n may_v exhort_v their_o child_n but_o it_o must_v be_v long_o after_o they_o cease_v to_o carry_v they_o in_o their_o arm_n and_o on_o their_o shoulder_n when_o they_o can_v more_o than_o go_v of_o themselves_o 2._o take_v calvin_n word_n into_o the_o balance_n with_o junius_n the_o prophet_n pronounce_v that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o gentile_n shall_v be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n but_o how_o if_o not_o in_o and_o by_o the_o first_o ordinance_n if_o not_o the_o least_o baptism_n examine_v exercitat_fw-la §_o 20._o the_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 10.2_o ●isme_n examine_v three_o from_o 1_o cor._n
pet._n 2.9_o examine_v which_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o the_o israelite_n exod._n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 6._o therefore_o believer_n of_o the_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n which_o the_o israelite_n have_v and_o therefore_o the_o child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o child_n of_o the_o israelite_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v mr_n t._n his_o answer_n be_v first_o if_o this_o argument_n proceed_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o there_o be_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n as_o of_o old_a among_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v which_o i_o will_v have_v understand_v in_o this_o sense_n there_o be_v now_o no_o such_o nationall-church_n as_o among_o the_o israeliet_n so_o as_o that_o a_o person_n shall_v be_v account_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o englishman_n sco●_n dutchman_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o speech_n joppose_v not_o they_o which_o affirm_v note_n note_n the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n second_o exod._n 19.5_o 6._o god_n speak_v not_o of_o a_o privilege_n flow_v from_o birth_n but_o obedience_n three_o the_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o the_o disperse_a jew_n and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n lie_v liable_a to_o exception_n when_o it_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o be_v say_v of_o the_o jew_n as_o if_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o gentile_n four_o the_o sense_n be_v you_o which_o believe_v ver_fw-la 7._o who_o god_n have_v call_v out_o of_o darkness_n be_v a_o holy_a nation_n whither_o jew_n or_o gentile_n by_o spiritual_a regeneration_n as_o believer_n be_v call_v a_o family_n or_o kindred_n ephess_n 3.15_o the_o household_n of_o faith_n gal._n 6.10_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 1_o tim._n 3.15_o a_o people_n 1_o pet._n 2.10_o wherefore_o in_o this_o family_n kindred_n house_n people_n be_v only_a believer_n who_o not_o carnal_a birth_n but_o spiritual_a cause_v to_o be_v reckon_v in_o that_o number_n we_o reply_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a thus_o the_o argument_n in_o my_o eye_n do_v not_o proceed_v to_o suppose_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n for_o it_o do_v not_o say_v the_o nation_n of_o believer_n but_o the_o believer_n of_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n beside_o it_o recite_v a_o text_n write_v to_o the_o jew_n who_o be_v scatter_v from_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n throughout_o pontus_n galatia_n cappadocia_n asia_n and_o bythinia_n chap._n 1._o v._n 1._o and_o when_o they_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n a_o person_n be_v not_o count_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n quatenus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la precise_o as_o he_o be_v a_o jew_n but_o as_o he_o be_v circumcise_v or_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o circumcise_a and_o so_o to_o be_v circumcise_v also_o a_o jew_n be_v cut_v off_o if_o not_o circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o institution_n to_o abrabraham_n gen._n 17._o and_o a_o gentile_a though_o a_o gentile_a be_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n if_o circumcise_v ibid._n gen._n 17._o just_o as_o a_o englishman_n as_o a_o englishman_n be_v not_o reckon_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o church_n in_o england_n if_o unfit_a to_o be_v baptise_a but_o keep_v out_o or_o a_o damnable_a heretic_n after_o baptism_n but_o be_v cast_v out_o or_o if_o one_o be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o baptize_v though_o mr_n tomb_n seem_v to_o oppose_v nationall_n church_n yet_o he_o set_v they_o up_o thus_o far_o wherein_o those_o of_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n i_o mean_v the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o approve_v mr_n tomb_n that_o the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n nor_o will_v mr_n tomb_n please_v himself_o with_o the_o direct_a inference_n that_o will_v follow_v from_o his_o express_a word_n which_o inference_n be_v this_o that_o if_o a_o nationall_n synod_n in_o england_n shall_v determine_v that_o infant_n of_o believer_n shall_v be_v baptize_v while_o infant_n mr._n t._n must_v subject_a to_o it_o and_o lay_v down_o all_o his_o exercitat_fw-la examination_n and_o appendix_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n as_o labour_v in_o vain_a cancel_v writing_n a_o old_a almanac_n for_o mr_n tomb_n have_v not_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a consequence_n reserve_v to_o himself_o by_o any_o express_v here_o so_o much_o as_o this_o exception_n that_o he_o will_v not_o submit_v in_o case_n they_o determine_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o his_o judgement_n but_o that_o he_o will_v have_v his_o liberty_n to_o stand_v out_o against_o the_o determination_n if_o any_o can_v at_o the_o first_o sight_n of_o this_o sudden_o divine_a and_o edict_n by_o proclamation_n that_o this_o exception_n be_v suppose_v it_o may_v be_v as_o sudden_o and_o rational_o argue_v back_o again_o that_o this_o will_v have_v be_v soon_o understand_v of_o the_o vulgar_a and_o ready_a be_v believe_v of_o the_o wise_a if_o it_o have_v be_v here_o express_v but_o if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o suppose_v than_o the_o question_n will_v be_v first_o whether_o mr_n t._n according_a to_o his_o design_n have_v prevent_v all_o offence_n to_o any_o of_o who_o he_o will_v be_v right_o understand_v touch_v nationall_n synod_n second_o what_o great_a thing_n have_v he_o say_v than_o divers_a other_o with_o who_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v close_o in_o point_n of_o church-government_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o reply_n touch_v exod._n 19.6_o that_o the_o place_n be_v speak_v to_o the_o parent_n suppose_v upon_o condition_n of_o obedience_n do_v no_o way_n infringe_v that_o the_o child_n of_o those_o obedient_a parent_n shall_v be_v count_v of_o that_o holy_a nation_n that_o be_v among_o the_o repute_a holy_a of_o that_o nation_n witness_v their_o circumcision_n and_o their_o no-capacity_n of_o disobedience_n to_o the_o three_o particular_a we_o reply_v that_o this_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o the_o disperse_a jew_n lean_v pron_o for_o application_n to_o the_o gentile-beleever_n that_o though_o they_o be_v as_o a_o disperse_a people_n among_o the_o unchristian_a christian_n called-nation_n yet_o their_o infant_n with_o they_o be_v to_o be_v account_v indefinite_o holy_a as_o the_o child_n of_o circumcise_a jew_n be_v count_v holy_a to_o mr_n t._n his_o four_o particular_a we_o reply_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o do_v evince_v that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o regenerate_v shall_v not_o be_v account_v federal_o among_o the_o believe_a gentile_n of_o the_o more_o more_o glorious_a new_a testament_n as_o among_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o shadow_a old_a testament_n six_o it_o will_v be_v answer_v say_v m._n t._n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la fail_v not_o examine_v §_o 13._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o church_n sail_v if_o infant-baptsme_a be_v not_o lawful_a examine_v but_o we_o must_v say_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v fail_v if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o lawful_a ergo._n mr_n t._n answ_n 1._o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v consist_v without_o baptism_n as_o in_o the_o crucify_v convert_v thief_n etc._n etc._n second_o neither_o perhaps_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v therefore_o incumbent_a three_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n ludou._n vives_z in_o his_o comment_n upon_o aug._n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 27._o have_v these_o word_n no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n unless_o he_o be_v of_o grow_v age_n already_o and_o when_o the_o same_o person_n know_v what_o that_o mystical_a water_n mean_v and_o desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o it_o and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o a_o image_n of_o which_o thing_n we_o see_v yet_o in_o our_o baptism_n of_o infant_n for_o as_o yet_o the_o infant_n though_o bear_v the_o same_o day_n or_o the_o day_n before_o be_v ask_v whether_o he_o will_v be_v baptize_v and_o that_o thry_n for_o who_o the_o surety_n answer_v that_o he_o will_v i_o bear_v in_o some_o city_n in_o italy_n that_o the_o old_a custom_n for_o a_o great_a part_n be_v yet_o preserve_v we_o reply_v to_o the_o first_o particular_a first_o do_v one_o convert_v these_o continue_v the_o church_n animadver_n animadver_n 2_o or_o if_o a_o accident_n that_o many_o by_o divine_a providentiall_a necessity_n be_v bolt_v and_o debar_v from_o a_o ordinance_n for_o a_o certain_a time_n do_v not_o interrupt_v the_o church_n succession_n when_o god_n by_o his_o prerogative_n will_v continue_v it_o can_v at_o another_o time_n wilful_a neglect_n of_o a_o ordinance_n in_o a_o right_a manner_n yea_o the_o apply_v of_o it_o gross_o to_o the_o
19.4.8_o argue_v from_o the_o institution_n of_o marriage_n against_o divorce_n for_o a_o light_a cause_n and_o polygamy_n because_o it_o be_v say_v two_o not_o more_o shall_v be_v one_o flesh_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o may_v be_v here_o argue_v christ_n say_v baptise_v they_o and_o not_o other_o therefore_o these_o and_o not_o other_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v we_o answer_v the_o case_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la and_o marriage_n be_v far_o different_a from_o this_o of_o baptism_n 1._o that_o as_o there_o be_v clear_a precedent_n foregoing_a institution_n of_o marriage_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o to_o those_o institution_n the_o word_n of_o christ_n and_o paul_n express_o relate_v 2._o that_o therefore_o those_o repetition_n mr._n t._n quote_v be_v not_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o those_o two_o but_o a_o application_n of_o the_o first_o institution_n unto_o exact_a practice_n according_o to_o they_o 3._o that_o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o repetition_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o those_o two_o be_v gross_a abuse_n in_o both_o express_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o christ_n for_o which_o there_o be_v no_o fair_a pretence_n but_o a_o apparent_a offend_n against_o the_o first_o institution_n as_o that_o a_o man_n shall_v for_o every_o light_a cause_n put_v away_o his_o wife_n which_o be_v not_o only_o against_o the_o first_o institution_n gen._n 2.24_o matth._n 5_o 32.-19.4_a 5_o 8._o but_o against_o moses_n his_o dispensation_n deut._n 24.1_o which_o be_v not_o to_o put_v she_o away_o unless_o he_o find_v some_o uncleanness_n that_o hinder_v cohabitation_n according_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o marriage_n matth._n 19.8_o so_o likewise_o these_o be_v gross_a abuse_n first_o that_o man_n at_o the_o communion_n shall_v not_o tarry_v one_o for_o another_o but_o every_o faction_n they_o of_o paul_n by_o themselves_o they_o of_o peter_n or_o cephas_n by_o themselves_o and_o first_o come_v first_o serve_v as_o we_o say_v shall_v partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n second_o that_o after_o their_o holy_a supper_n some_o that_o be_v rich_a make_v such_o large_a feast_n of_o charity_n which_o christ_n institute_v not_o of_o the_o collection_n that_o they_o be_v drink_v while_o the_o poor_a come_v after_o be_v hunger-bit_n have_v nothing_o lest_o for_o they_o now_o for_o the_o business_n of_o baptism_n in_o this_o 28._o of_o matt._n it_o be_v quite_o otherwise_o in_o all_o the_o say_v three_o particular_n for_o as_o for_o the_o first_o particular_a either_o as_o we_o say_v in_o circumcision_n be_v a_o full_a and_o sufficient_a forego_v institution_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n and_o then_o christ_n need_v not_o say_v more_o here_o but_o go_v teach_v and_o baptise_v as_o refer_v we_o to_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o first_o seal_n circumcision_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n where_o after_o believe_v abraham_n be_v teach_v gen._n 12._o gen._n 15._o and_o after_o circumcise_v gen._n 17._o he_o according_o circumcise_v his_o child_n and_o therefore_o so_o it_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o parent_n be_v teach_v and_o baptize_v their_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v also_o or_o else_o as_o the_o anabaptist_n say_v there_o be_v no_o precede_a or_o foregoing_a institution_n of_o baptism_n before_o christ_n time_n and_o that_o baptism_n differ_v much_o from_o circumcision_n but_o if_o this_o be_v true_a how_o do_v this_o place_n of_o matth._n 28.19_o agree_v with_o those_o quote_v place_n of_o marriage_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n there_o be_v nothing_o foregoing_a this_o as_o there_o be_v afore_o they_o to_o make_v we_o punctual_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o it_o at_o least_o in_o every_o main_a particular_a especial_o in_o matter_n of_o main_a difference_n from_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o first_o seal_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o therefore_o to_o the_o second_o particular_a we_o say_v that_o if_o this_o 28._o of_o matth._n be_v the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n first_o as_o it_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o the_o place_n of_o marriage_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v a_o application_n of_o a_o former_a institution_n of_o baptism_n to_o a_o exact_a practice_n so_o our_o faithful_a christ_n must_v needs_o have_v speak_v plain_a and_o full_a in_o a_o institution_n to_o have_v prevent_v so_o gross_a a_o abuse_n if_o it_o have_v be_v abuse_n that_o man_n shall_v apply_v this_o sacrament_n to_o any_o infant_n if_o to_o they_o it_o shall_v not_o belong_v for_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v prevent_v but_o from_o the_o institution_n at_o least_n and_o how_o from_o the_o institution_n if_o christ_n will_v not_o there_o speak_v it_o so_o for_o the_o three_o and_o last_o particular_a as_o baptism_n of_o believer_n infant_n have_v you_o will_v yield_v at_o least_o a_o fair_a religious_a pretence_n for_o it_o out_o of_o gen._n 17._o so_o the_o lord_n christ_n or_o john_n baptist_n or_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o intimate_v any_o where_n that_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n child_n be_v a_o abuse_n as_o be_v intimate_v about_o that_o of_o marriage_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o therefore_o we_o can_v attend_v to_o any_o such_o intention_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o least_o in_o this_o of_o matth._n 28._o to_o prevent_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n infant_n bat_n mr._n t._n in_o his_o argument_n afore_o out_o of_o matth._n 28._o object_v that_o if_o any_o gather_v thence_o that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o christ_n command_v all_o nation_n to_o be_v baptize_v that_o first_o he_o be_v faulty_a in_o cast_v away_o that_o restriction_n that_o christ_n have_v put_v second_o in_o make_v the_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o child_n common_a to_o all_o infidel_n and_o their_o child_n we_o answer_v to_o the_o first_o that_o first_o that_o be_v the_o question_n whether_o christ_n have_v here_o put_v a_o restriction_n against_o believer_n child_n second_o that_o we_o extend_v not_o this_o place_n further_o than_o to_o the_o child_n of_o taught-or-made_a disciple_n understand_v it_o to_o refer_v to_o gen._n 17._o where_o instruct_v abraham_n be_v to_o circumcise_v his_o child_n as_o we_o say_v afore_o yet_o it_o be_v say_v i_o will_v make_v thou_o a_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n and_o in_o thy_o seed_n all_o the_o nation_n shall_v be_v bless_v so_o here_o though_o it_o be_v say_v go_v teach_v and_o baptize_v all_o nation_n yet_o we_o extend_v it_o not_o beyond_o the_o child_n of_o parent_n teach_v and_o baptize_v but_o say_v mr._n t._n however_o assertor_n of_o baptism_n of_o infant_n crack_v of_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o offspring_n yet_o by_o their_o say_n and_o do_n touch_v baptise_v all_o infant_n they_o go_v far_o from_o christ_n institution_n and_o their_o own_o principle_n at_o this_o day_n upon_o which_o they_o be_v now_o busy_a to_o establish_v infant-baptisme_n for_o their_o do_n first_o mr._n t._n urge_v their_o baptise_v all_o infant_n offer_v to_o they_o for_o their_o say_n he_o urge_v augustine_n and_o his_o quotation_n out_o of_o cyprian_a also_o mr._n s._n rutherford_n scot_n and_o mr._n rathband_n answ_n as_o we_o do_v not_o appoint_v cyprian_a august_n john_n gerard_n mr._n rutherford_n or_o mr._n rathband_n to_o speak_v for_o we_o all_o so_o nor_o do_v they_o undertake_v it_o we_o know_v as_o these_o man_n have_v and_o do_v confess_v they_o be_v man_n &_o humanum_fw-la est_fw-la errare_fw-la man_n may_v mistake_v mr._n t._n assume_v not_o to_o himself_o infallibility_n if_o august_n and_o cyprian_a etc._n etc._n do_v err_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n in_o say_v all_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v yet_o this_o do_v not_o infer_v that_o that_o be_v no_o error_n in_o other_o that_o say_v no_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o err_v on_o the_o left_a hand_n and_o though_o we_o may_v excuse_v cyprian_a and_o augustine_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o and_o yet_o be_v excuse_v of_o candid_a man_n for_o so_o do_v that_o there_o be_v not_o no_o difference_n between_o say_v grace_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o any_o man_n and_o say_v all_o infant_n whatsoever_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v let_v they_o that_o can_v consult_v the_o place_n of_o cyprian_a and_o augustine_n yet_o we_o say_v rather_o that_o the_o father_n have_v their_o severell_n naevos_fw-la their_o blemish_n in_o divers_a thing_n as_o danaeus_n on_o augustine_n and_o tossanus_n upon_o all_o the_o father_n note_v they_o augustine_n be_v so_o sensible_a of_o this_o that_o he_o write_v his_o confession_n to_o acknowledge_v the_o error_n of_o his_o life_n and_o his_o retractation_n of_o his_o error_n in_o opinion_n who_o know_v but_o that_o mr._n tomb_n and_o that_o other_o h.d._n that_o be_v sharp_a with_o mr._n martial_n for_o state_v the_o question_n of_o baptise_v believer_n child_n his_o practice_n and_o other_o
in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v 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anabaptiss_n of_o the_o low_a country_n john_n gastius_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n of_o zuitzerland_n melancthon_n ch._n de_fw-fr nielles_fw-fr pontanus_n osiander_n etc._n etc._n sin_n etc._n all_o which_o will_v more_o than_o furnish_v the_o reader_n with_o a_o full_a answer_n to_o the_o 2_o part_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la the_o title_n or_o sum_n whereof_o be_v set_v down_o by_o mr_n t._n that_o antipaedobaptisme_n have_v no_o ill_a influence_n on_o church_n or_o commonwealth_n which_o author_n aforesaid_a have_v too_o many_o sad_a instance_n of_o both_o we_o forbear_v to_o name_v they_o as_o have_v no_o delight_n in_o catalogue_n of_o sin_n yet_o if_o we_o shall_v do_v so_o you_o will_v not_o take_v that_o for_o a_o proof_n of_o the_o doubtfulness_n of_o anabaptism_n or_o antipaedobaptisme_n you_o will_v say_v we_o do_v rather_o endeavour_v to_o disgrace_v it_o then_o to_o confute_v it_o as_o it_o be_v your_o complaint_n against_o mr_n m._n in_o your_o first_o section_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o your_o examen_fw-la why_o then_o do_v you_o here_o labour_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o man_n against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v believer_n child_n with_o a_o aspersion_n that_o some_o odd_a opinion_n and_o tradition_n have_v attend_v it_o 2._o to_o mr_n t._n his_o minor_a we_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o particular_n he_o recite_v but_o in_o some_o age_n say_v he_o after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o use_n first_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v but_o why_o do_v mr_n t._n we_o wonder_v speak_v of_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o 100_o year_n from_o the_o apostle_n for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v infant-baptisme_n to_o be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o the_o first_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n all_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o that_o age_n it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a one_o though_o all_o the_o 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of_o baptism_n chap._n 18._o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o i●_n he_o do_v allow_v it_o as_o mr_n t._n add_v it_o be_v only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o his_o word_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la chap._n 39_o we_o reply_v to_o this_o 1._o that_o both_o these_o place_n of_o tertullian_n be_v before_o allege_v translate_v and_o discuss_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o be_v for_o infant-baptisme_n chap._n 13._o of_o our_o animadvers_fw-la at_o the_o word_n tertul_n in_o the_o margin_n which_o we_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v over_o again_o where_o you_o may_v see_v that_o tertullian_n have_v nothing_o of_o allowance_n of_o infant-baptisme_n only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o if_o the_o place_n be_v well_o weigh_v he_o say_v that_o which_o he_o say_v for_o infant-baptisme_n without_o any_o such_o limitation_n which_o infant-baptisme_n among_o other_o passage_n be_v assert_v by_o tertullian_n in_o those_o word_n that_o the_o child_n 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in_o his_o say_a book_n and_o 8_o chap._n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la that_o child_n be_v not_o holy_a till_o they_o be_v count_v so_o in_o christ_n and_o how_o in_o christ_n when_o they_o be_v by_o mean_n of_o one_o of_o the_o holy_a parent_n under_o the_o promise_n of_o be_v a_o holy_a seed_n and_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n which_o for_o child_n while_o such_o be_v only_a baptism_n and_o whereas_o mr_n t._n bring_v in_o learned_a grotius_n as_o countenance_v he_o in_o rely_v upon_o tertullian_n against_o infant-baptisme_n we_o have_v large_o and_o plain_o lay_v open_a after_z in_o our_o animadversion_n in_o this_o chap._n upon_o the_o six_o section_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la see_v the_o margin_n there_o 1._o that_o grotius_n reject_v tertullia_n opinion_n as_o nothing_o sway_v he_o against_o infant-baptisme_n 2._o that_o grotius_n by_o many_o argument_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n 3._o we_o now_o add_v that_o it_o be_v true_a grotius_n do_v say_v tertullianus_n de_fw-fr aetate_fw-la quâ_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la essent_fw-la qui_fw-la christianae_n disciplinae_fw-la a_o parentibus_fw-la cons●crabantur_fw-la nihil_fw-la definitum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la suis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la docet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o tertullian_n show_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o set_a time_n of_o baptise_v they_o that_o be_v consecrate_a by_o their_o parent_n to_o christian_a discipline_n be_v not_o determine_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o those_o time_n believer_n child_n must_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o they_o be_v out_o of_o their_o parent_n guardianship_n and_o of_o ripe_a year_n 2._o mr_n t._n object_n against_o cyprian_a 7._o examen_fw-la sect._n 7._o that_o indeed_o he_o handle_v infant-baptisme_n at_o large_a in_o his_o 59_o epistle_n ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la and_o say_v in_o that_o epistle_n enough_o for_o it_o and_o more_o then_o enough_o unless_o he_o have_v speak_v to_o better_a purpose_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o very_a 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about_o easter_n near_o that_o age_n do_v plain_o show_v that_o judaisme_n be_v not_o quite_o weed_v out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o chief_a teacher_n among_o christian_n thus_o mr_n t._n we_o answer_v 1_o that_o however_o mr_n t._n despise_v here_o cyprian_n testimony_n animadver_n animadver_n yet_o the_o renow_v pious_a learned_a esteem_v it_o as_o cyrill_n or_o john_n of_o jerusalem_n gregory_n nazianzen_n chrysostome_n ambrose_n hierom_n augustine_n the_o place_n where_o in_o their_o work_n we_o quote_v a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o margin_n over_o against_o the_o end_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a nor_o do_v ancient_a writer_n only_o esteem_v it_o on_o who_o spirit_n mr_n t._n say_v there_o be_v such_o darkness_n and_o on_o who_o spirit_n be_v there_o not_o some_o at_o this_o time_n of_o great_a light_n but_o also_o late_a learn_v pious_a writer_n even_o mr_n t._n his_o beloved_a vossius_fw-la &_o grotius_n so_o oft_o quote_v by_o he_o vossius_fw-la say_v 19.14_o vossius_fw-la thes_n theolog._n &_o hist_n de_fw-fr paedo_fw-la bapt_v thes_n 9_o grotius_n in_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o this_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a be_v above_o or_o beyond_o all_o exception_n grotius_n say_v that_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n make_v the_o matter_n plain_a that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o doubt_n of_o baptise_v infant_n etc._n etc._n 2_o when_o mr_n t._n urge_v the_o father_n in_o the_o least_o as_o one_o place_n out_o of_o one_o origen_n or_o etc._n etc._n in_o a_o point_n of_o great_a doubt_n we_o must_v entertain_v it_o by_o mr_n t._n his_o intendment_n but_o when_o we_o urge_v many_o place_n out_o of_o many_o then_o say_v he_o they_o be_v this_o and_o that_o 3_o better_a man_n than_o these_o father_n may_v have_v some_o darkness_n john_n baptist_n be_v great_a than_o the_o prophet_n and_o he_o that_o be_v least_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o church_n now_o be_v great_a than_o he_o 4_o many_o man_n may_v in_o these_o day_n hold_v a_o solid_a truth_n yet_o not_o upon_o the_o best_a ground_n of_o it_o for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n of_o they_o 5_o that_o fidus_n thus_o far_o express_o hold_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n to_o be_v abrogate_a that_o baptism_n be_v come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n and_o may_v be_v administer_v at_o least_o as_o soon_o as_o circumcision_n be_v to_o child_n 2._o act._n 21.20_o gal._n 2._o 6_o we_o know_v that_o many_o christian_a jew_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o peter_n himself_o do_v too_o much_o judaize_v shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o receive_v that_o true_a light_n that_o be_v in_o they_o 7_o for_o that_o of_o ester_n we_o know_v the_o controversy_n too_o far_o and_o too_o long_o about_o that_o time_n invade_v christian_a england_n shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o be_v regard_v in_o any_o truth_n martyr_n mr_n fox_n book_n of_o martyr_n yea_o do_v not_o the_o observation_n of_o ester_n reach_v down_o to_o mr_n
premise_n who_o before_o express_o name_v baptism_n and_o join_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d together_o consecration_n or_o sanctification_n thus_o greg._n naz._n on_o who_o word_n learn_v vossius_fw-la speak_v my_o sense_n non_fw-la igitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o say_v vossius_fw-la nazianzen_n do_v not_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n who_o if_o there_o be_v any_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o command_v also_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o judge_v that_o otherwise_o it_o may_v not_o unprofitable_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o three_o or_o four_o year_n which_o be_v only_o one_o doctor_n opinion_n and_o not_o the_o common_a judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n thus_o vossius_fw-la take_v we_o in_o also_o the_o note_n of_o vincent_n lirinens_fw-la cap._n 39_o quicquid_fw-la unus_fw-la vel_fw-la alter_fw-la patrum_fw-la quam●is_fw-la ille_fw-la sanctus_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v whatsoever_o one_o or_o other_o of_o the_o father_n albeit_o he_o be_v holy_a and_o learned_a etc._n etc._n shall_v think_v beside_o or_o contrary_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n let_v that_o go_v among_o his_o own_o proper_a hide_a and_o private_a opiniol_n or_o conceit_n as_o different_z and_z severed_z from_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o common_a judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o last_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o add_v our_o observation_n 1_o that_o according_a to_o the_o design_n in_o hand_n nazianzen_n hold_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n that_o have_v not_o yet_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n not_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o according_a to_o his_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o right_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o paschal_n blood_n on_o the_o doore-post_n exod._n 12._o have_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v hold_v in_o his_o time_n only_o as_o a_o tradition_n he_o have_v not_o argue_v it_o from_o scripture_n 2_o that_o for_o defer_v of_o baptism_n of_o some_o till_o three_o year_n old_a or_o less_o as_o he_o say_v what_o do_v this_o conduce_v more_o to_o that_o which_o some_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n require_v at_o baptism_n as_o manifestation_n of_o true_a grace_n then_o to_o baptize_v they_o at_o eight_o or_o ten_o day_n old_a upon_o god_n covenant_n with_o the_o believe_a parent_n here_o to_o clear_a thing_n as_o we_o go_v we_o must_v answer_v some_o objection_n make_v against_o what_o we_o allege_v out_o of_o nazianzen_n first_o mr._n d._n in_o his_o antichrist_n unmask_v clear_v objection_n of_o h._n d._n against_o nazianzen_n clear_v 1._o obj._n nazianzen_n say_v he_o restrain_v baptism_n of_o infant_n to_o danger_n but_o there_o be_v no_o danger_n if_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v ergo_fw-la nazianzens_n mind_n be_v not_o that_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v answ_n this_o argument_n play_v with_o a_o equivocation_n of_o the_o word_n danger_n h._n d._n mean_v there_o be_v no_o spiritual_a danger_n if_o a_o infant_n die_v before_o it_o be_v baptize_v but_o nazianzen_n mean_v danger_n of_o bodily_a death_n and_o therefore_o give_v it_o as_o a_o precept_n or_o command_n that_o in_o case_n there_o be_v danger_n that_o the_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o it_o be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n let_v it_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o figure_n thereof_o circumcision_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o obj._n 2._o nazianzen_n say_v h._n d._n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o he_o be_v 30._o year_n old_a as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o his_o life_n answ_n if_o that_o in_o nazianzens_n life_n say_v this_o true_o yet_o this_o may_v be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o persecution_n of_o those_o time_n or_o indisposition_n of_o his_o parent_n or_o other_o press_a necessity_n and_o therefore_o do_v infer_v no_o more_o than_o that_o circumcision_n ought_v not_o after_o the_o israelite_n come_v into_o canaan_n to_o be_v administer_v till_o man_n be_v forty_o year_n old_a because_o so_o long_o it_o be_v defer_v in_o the_o wilderness_n christ_n himself_o be_v not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a yet_o the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n of_o this_o that_o only_o those_o of_o just_a that_o age_n must_v be_v baptize_v sure_o enough_o if_o nazianzen_n his_o baptism_n be_v defer_v past_o childhood_n it_o be_v not_o intend_v by_o he_o for_o a_o regulate_a example_n but_o oft_o in_o that_o oration_n forequote_v in_o several_a place_n exhort_v to_o hasten_v baptism_n baptism_n baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n have_v a_o infant_n lest_o improbity_n snatch_v away_o the_o opportunity_n let_v he_o be_v sanctify_v from_o his_o infancy_n meaning_n baptism_n have_v speak_v in_o the_o very_a next_o precede_v word_n against_o delay_n of_o baptism_n naz._n orat._n ●0_n p._n 648._o see_v also_o p._n 646_o think_v all_o time_n to_o be_v certain_a &_o determine_v for_o baptism_n and_o not_o to_o defer_v it_o after_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a lat._n old_a ibid._n p._n 658._o edit_fw-la paris_n graec._n &_o lat._n and_o you_o hear_v in_o the_o place_n quote_v that_o he_o mention_n defer_v in_o any_o case_n but_o till_o 3_o or_o 4_o year_n old_a or_o less_o sometime_o which_o be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n with_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n at_o three_o month_n or_o three_o week_n unless_o the_o mathematical_a consideration_n of_o word_n speak_v without_o knowledge_n as_o persius_n his_o parrot_n speak_v greek_n baptize_v greek_n one_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v if_o one_o confess_v his_o sin_n though_o there_o be_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v prevail_v with_o some_o second_o mr._n tomb_n object_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la against_o nazianzen_n examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o 1._o he_o object_n with_o a_o interrogation_n but_o do_v greg._n nazianzen_n say_v mr._n t._n seem_v only_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o word_n say_v he_o be_v plain_a that_o nazianzen_n give_v the_o reason_n why_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n shall_v be_v baptize_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o may_v not_o miss_v of_o the_o common_a grace_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o give_v his_o opinion_n of_o other_o that_o they_o shall_v stay_v long_o that_o they_o may_v be_v instruct_v and_o so_o their_o mind_n and_o body_n may_v be_v sanctify_v thus_o mr._n t._n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v first_o if_o greg._n nazianzen_n do_v give_v reason_n why_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n they_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o live_v to_o be_v of_o ripe_a year_n it_o be_v so_o much_o the_o better_a for_o we_o second_o he_o do_v give_v another_o reason_n beside_o that_o of_o partake_v of_o common_a grace_n namely_o 1_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o it_o be_v better_a they_o shall_v be_v sanctify_v without_o a_o feel_n of_o it_o then_o to_o depart_v without_o the_o seal_n so_o he_o think_v they_o be_v sanctify_v too_o in_o infancy_n as_o well_o as_o at_o ripe_a year_n 2_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o reason_n also_o of_o this_o to_o we_o be_v circumsion_n that_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v on_o the_o eight_o day_n etc._n etc._n three_o we_o answer_v that_o all_o three_o reason_n stand_v in_o force_n as_o well_o for_o all_o believer_n infant_n god_n put_v they_o under_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17._o as_o for_o those_o infant_n that_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o death_n four_o that_o nazianzen_n urge_v divers_a divine_a reason_n to_o he_o evince_v for_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n but_o for_o the_o delay_n of_o other_o not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o give_v my_o opinion_n he_o call_v it_o his_o opinion_n and_o what_o be_v it_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o child_n shall_v stay_v till_o three_o or_o four_o year_n old_a more_o or_o less_o and_o what_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o child_n of_o that_o age_n more_o then_o from_o infant_n towards_o baptism_n for_o nazianzen_n himself_o confess_v that_o though_o they_o may_v then_o hear_v and_o answer_v some_o spiritual_a thing_n yet_o they_o understand_v imperfect_o but_o do_v nazianzen_n give_v we_o there_o any_o scripture_n for_o this_o differ_v none_o do_v he_o give_v any_o reason_n even_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o as_o for_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v in_o mind_n and_o body_n second_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o mr._n t._n object_n upon_o our_o allege_v nazianzen_n against_o all_o the_o greek_a father_n in_o effect_n that_o we_o have_v allege_v and_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n first_o thus_o it_o be_v wonder_n to_o i_o say_v mr._n
by_o they_o in_o many_o author_n mention_v this_o be_v to_o i_o and_o it_o seem_v to_o hugo_n grotius_n annot_n in_o matth._n 19.14_o no_o small_a evidence_n that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n many_o hundred_o year_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n grotius_n add_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o synod_n of_o neo-caesarea_n in_o the_o year_n 313._o determine_v that_o a_o woman_n with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v because_o the_o baptism_n reach_v not_o to_o the_o fruit_n of_o her_o womb_n because_o in_o the_o confession_n make_v in_o baptism_n each_o once_o free_a choice_n be_v show_v we_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o seem_v not_o otherwise_o to_o i_o but_z as_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la and_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o they_o that_o at_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o baptism_n be_v baptize_v at_o ripe_a year_n do_v not_o imply_v but_o that_o baptism_n descend_v to_o their_o child_n while_o child_n yea_o so_o much_o the_o rather_o because_o the_o parent_n be_v baptize_v the_o promise_n then_o be_v actual_o instate_v on_o they_o 2._o act_n 2._o the_o promise_n to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n even_o just_a so_o may_v we_o say_v of_o those_o question_n put_v to_o the_o baptize_v and_o answer_v by_o they_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o though_o be_v gentile_n the_o parent_n at_o first_o be_v to_o make_v confession_n as_o a_o token_n of_o their_o conversion_n from_o hethenisme_n before_o their_o baptism_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o argue_v that_o their_o child_n must_v be_v able_a to_o make_v confession_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v no_o more_o than_o the_o circumcision_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o stranger_n be_v buy_v with_o money_n when_o they_o be_v believer_n of_o ripe_a year_n do_v infer_v that_o all_o christ_n child_n from_o age_n to_o age_n shall_v not_o be_v circumcise_v till_o they_o be_v so_o too_o 2._o touch_v grotius_n we_o answer_v four_o thing_n 1._o that_o he_o in_o discuss_v the_o point_n on_o matth._n 19.14_o touch_v infant-baptisme_n allege_v diverse_a thing_n to_o show_v that_o some_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n in_o several_a age_n do_v not_o baptize_v their_o infant_n but_o have_v no_o such_o passage_n as_o that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n 2._o in_o all_o he_o allege_v touch_v this_o he_o say_v not_o to_o the_o contraty_n but_o that_o the_o non-baptizing_a of_o some_o infant_n may_v be_v because_o their_o greek_a parent_n be_v not_o convert_v from_o gentilism_n 3._o for_o that_o neocaesarian_a synod_n another_o synod_n of_o which_o there_o be_v many_o edition_n vary_v one_o from_o another_o the_o cause_n and_o intent_n of_o it_o in_o part_n at_o least_o may_v be_v as_o be_v intimate_v afore_o out_o of_o clem._n alexand._n a_o greek_a who_o flourish_v long_o before_o the_o neocaesarian_a synod_n and_o therefore_o likely_a this_o synod_n will_v have_v respect_n to_o he_o tertul_n he_o and_o to_o tertullian_n of_o the_o same_o time_n with_o clem._n who_o have_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o clem._n tertulli_n lib._n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la chap._n 39_o 40._o of_o which_o afore_o chap._n 13._o of_o animad_fw-la vid._n in_o mark_fw-mi tertul_n to_o wit_n that_o though_o by_o the_o baptismal_a wash_n of_o the_o parent_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n and_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n the_o seed_n of_o that_o parent_n be_v account_v holy_a yet_o so_o as_o not_o to_o anticipate_v and_o prevent_v the_o baptise_v of_o that_o seed_n when_o it_o be_v bear_v 4._o grotius_n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o interpreter_n do_v take_v the_o word_n of_o that_o synod_n otherwise_o then_o to_o intend_v against_o infant-baptisme_n 5._o for_o grotius_n his_o own_o opinion_n it_o be_v clear_a and_o full_a for_o infant-baptisme_n upon_o that_o 19_o of_o matth._n ver_fw-la 14._o who_o allege_v and_o assert_n these_o particular_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v grateful_a to_o christ_n that_o little_a child_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o he_o as_o the_o design_v once_o of_o holiness_n and_o so_o of_o salvation_n according_a to_o tertullia_n expression_n 2._o that_o according_a to_o irenaeus_n christ_n pass_v through_o every_o age_n he_o become_v a_o infant_n to_o sanctify_v infant_n a_o little_a child_n to_o sanctify_v they_o of_o that_o age_n etc._n etc._n 3._o that_o upon_o this_o text_n of_o christ_n receive_v little_a one_o etc._n etc._n among_o other_o ground_n do_v say_v grotius_n lean_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v little_o one_o and_o infant_n 4._o that_o in_o augustine_n time_n say_v he_o it_o be_v a_o common_a neceive_v practice_n to_o baptize_v infant_n as_o be_v clear_a by_o this_o that_o when_o the_o pelagian_o hold_v some_o how_o against_o infant-baptisme_n be_v press_v with_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n they_o dare_v not_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a 5._o that_o by_o hierom_n and_o augustine_n quotation_n of_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n it_o be_v clear_a say_v grotius_n that_o it_o be_v not_o doubt_v in_o cyprian_n time_n whether_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v but_o only_o some_o stuck_n at_o this_o whether_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v afore_o they_o be_v eight_o day_n old_a and_o it_o be_v determine_v in_o a_o council_n then_o whereof_o cyprian_n be_v one_o that_o baptism_n shall_v not_o be_v deny_v to_o infant_n new_o bear_v if_o they_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o 6._o grotius_n say_v that_o in_o a_o ancient_a book_n entitle_v the_o constitution_n of_o clement_n it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n baptise_v your_o infant_n also_o then_o train_v they_o up_o in_o the_o instruction_n and_o nurture_n of_o the_o lord_n 7._o grotius_n have_v quote_v something_n out_o of_o that_o synod_n of_o balsamo_n and_o zonanas_n walafridus_n strabo_n etc._n etc._n 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erat_fw-la fe●me_fw-la qui_fw-la decim_fw-la &_o ingeni●_n praeveniebat_fw-la multos_fw-la grave_n &_o doctos_fw-la viros_fw-la munera_fw-la tua_fw-la tibi_fw-la co●f●eor_fw-la do_v nine_o deus_fw-la meus_fw-la creator_n omn●um_fw-la &_o mul●um_fw-la potens_fw-la reformare_fw-la nostra_fw-la deformia_fw-la nam_fw-la ego_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la pvero_fw-la praeter_fw-la delictum_fw-la nihil_fw-la habebam_fw-la quod_fw-la enim_fw-la enutriabatur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la in_o disciplina_fw-la tua_fw-la tu_fw-la inspiraveras_fw-la nobis_fw-la nullus_fw-la alius_fw-la aug._n confess_v lib._n 9_o cap._n 6._o nor_o be_v it_o of_o moment_n whether_o he_o be_v or_o be_v not_o for_o mr_n t._n his_o conclusion_n from_o these_o premise_n of_o augustine_n adeodatus_n and_o alipius_n i_o say_v his_o conclusion_n that_o the_o church_n think_v it_o not_o necessary_a that_o all_o child_n of_o christian_n by_o profession_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n do_v not_o necessary_o follow_v but_o mr_n t._n in_o his_o examen_fw-la sect._n 8._o assert_n further_o that_o though_o he_o conceive_v with_o grotius_n on_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v much_o more_o frequent_v and_o with_o great_a opinion_n of_o necessity_n in_o africa_n then_o in_o asia_n or_o other_o part_n of_o the_o world_n for_o say_v he_o in_o the_o councilis_fw-la you_o can_v find_v ancient_a mention_n of_o that_o custom_n than_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n yet_o mr_n t._n do_v very_o much_o question_n whether_o they_o do_v in_o africa_n even_o in_o augustine_n time_n baptize_v child_n except_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o for_o the_o health_n of_o body_n or_o for_o such_o like_a reason_n i_o do_v not_o find_v say_v mr_n t._n that_o they_o hold_v that_o infant_n must_v be_v baptize_v out_o of_o such_o case_n for_o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o sundry_a of_o augustine_n tract_n as_o particular_o tract_n 11._o in_o johan_n that_o the_o order_n hold_v of_o distinguish_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la and_z baptize_v and_o the_o use_n of_o catechise_n afore_o baptism_n still_o continue_v animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v 1._o for_o the_o judgement_n of_o grotius_n as_o it_o appear_v there_o we_o have_v abundant_o speak_v of_o it_o afore_o as_o for_o we_o 2._o for_o this_o particular_a quotation_n as_o apply_v by_o mr._n t._n we_o say_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v a_o naked_a thing_n not_o back_v to_o a_o sufficiency_n of_o a_o clear_a and_o manifest_a assertion_n from_o negative_n especial_o in_o the_o point_n of_o necessity_n we_o may_v just_o quare_fw-la 1._o how_o much_o more_o frequency_n and_o necessity_n do_v mr_n t._n mean_a how_o much_o more_o can_v he_o make_v appear_v for_o sure_o he_o can_v dispute_v from_o punctilio_n and_o what_o use_n will_v mr_n t._n make_v of_o it_o if_o for_o a_o time_n there_o appear_v a_o grain_n more_o in_o africa_n then_o in_o asia_n a_o argument_n be_v not_o manage_v by_o countenance_n or_o gravity_n of_o assert_v man_n in_o 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both_o testament_n act_v be_v the_o monarchy_n and_o captivity_n over_o the_o church_n great_a asia_n include_v asia_n the_o less_o since_o call_v anatolia_n propria_fw-la anatolia_n this_o anatolia_n or_o asia_n the_o less_o comprehend_v cilicia_n pamphylia_n lycia_n bythinia_n pontus_n paphlagonia_n galatia_n cappadociae_fw-la lycaonia_n pissdia_n armenia_n the_o lisse_n and_o asia_n propria_fw-la that_o be_v the_o estern_a country_n where_o be_v the_o seven_o church_n revel_v 1._o this_o include_v asia_n propria_fw-la phyrigiae'_v propria_fw-la which_o comprehend_v caria_n jonia_n lydiaa_n aeulis_n and_o both_o the_o phyrigiae'_v of_o which_o at_o least_o be_v mean_v that_o act._n 19.10_o and_o 27._o all_o asia_n hear_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o certain_a which_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o asia_n send_v unto_o paul_n suitable_o we_o quote_v justin_n martyr_n for_o one_o of_o our_o witness_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n of_o infant_n baptism_n he_o be_v a_o samaritan_n which_o be_v part_n of_o palestine_n in_o asia_n the_o great_a genere_fw-la samaritanus_n atque_fw-la è_fw-la samaritanis_fw-la ad_fw-la christi_fw-la fidem_fw-la transiit_fw-la epiphan_n some_o of_o samaria_n be_v convert_v by_o christ_n john_n 4._o v._o 5._o v._n 29._o v._n 30._o v._n 39_o after_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o word_n be_v preach_v to_o many_o village_n of_o the_o samaritan_n act._n 8.25_o justin_n martyr_n be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n about_o 28_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n to_o that_o of_o not_o baptise_v child_n in_o africa_n but_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o etc._n etc._n we_o have_v show_v the_o contrary_a out_o of_o several_a antiquity_n &_o particular_o out_o of_o cyprian_a whither_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n and_o sure_o enough_o from_o the_o life_n of_o augustin_n of_o which_o anon_o after_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o augustine_n sickness_n while_o young_a be_v some_o occasion_n of_o defer_v his_o baptism_n for_o that_o time_n for_o he_o say_v in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o confession_n and_o c._n 11._o that_o have_v be_v sick_a they_o defer_v their_o thought_n of_o baptise_v he_o that_o they_o may_v the_o more_o free_o give_v he_o his_o will_n to_o do_v what_o he_o will_v for_o the_o furtherance_n of_o his_o recovery_n which_o they_o may_v not_o allow_v he_o if_o once_o he_o be_v under_o the_o bond_n of_o baptism_n those_o word_n mr_n t._n add_v child_n be_v baptize_v for_o the_o health_n of_o body_n or_o such_o like_a reason_n seem_v to_o clash_v against_o that_o he_o so_o often_o press_v in_o his_o book_n that_o augustine_n and_o the_o ancient_n do_v too_o much_o put_v salvation_n and_o the_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n in_o baptism_n which_o present_o mr_n t._n repea●es_v within_o 25_o line_n follow_v you_o may_v conceive_v say_v mr_n t._n how_o light_a augustine_n judgement_n be_v by_o consider_v the_o ground_n upon_o which_o augustine_n hold_v and_o urge_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n so_o 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pareus_n calvin_n bullinger_n marlorat_n etc._n etc._n on_o heb._n 6.2_o and_o this_o be_v practise_v in_o all_o protestant_a kingdom_n to_o this_o day_n notwithstanding_o the_o constancy_n of_o baptise_v infant_n if_o there_o be_v not_o use_v a_o right_a judgement_n to_o determine_v who_o be_v christian-parent_n that_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o man_n not_o of_o the_o ordinance_n or_o its_o institution_n if_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o answer_v that_o quotation_n of_o augustine_n with_o other_o out_o of_o augustine_n i_o may_v abound_v with_o his_o sentence_n for_o infant_n baptism_n as_o his_o collation_n of_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n his_o collation_n of_o baptism_n with_o the_o flood_n the_o cloud_n and_o red_a sea_n divers_a time_n his_o say_n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v defer_v that_o repentance_n be_v not_o absolute_o universal_o necessary_a before_o baptism_n his_o several_a tract_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a one_o etc._n etc._n which_o we_o need_v not_o quote_v to_o they_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o augustine_n all_o which_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n augustine_n speak_v of_o catechise_n before_o baptism_n viz._n of_o those_o who_o parent_n be_v not_o christian_n if_o with_o nazianzen_n he_o have_v hold_v that_o little_a child_n of_o three_o year_n old_a be_v chatechise_v to_o answer_v that_o they_o understand_v not_o may_v be_v baptize_v what_o be_v that_o more_o to_o the_o purpose_n then_o to_o baptize_v they_o while_o infant_n we_o must_v understand_v that_o in_o most_o of_o the_o father_n time_n there_o be_v no_o whole_a kingdom_n or_o for_o the_o most_o part_n convert_v or_o religious_a worship_n set_v up_o by_o allowance_n of_o the_o state_n but_o the_o general_a of_o they_o be_v heathen_n therefore_o of_o necessity_n there_o must_v have_v be_v some_o catechise_n afore_o the_o baptise_v of_o some_o and_o for_o baptise_v infant_n for_o bodily_a health_n etc._n etc._n name_v but_o not_o quote_v out_o of_o augustine_n as_o his_o opinion_n we_o can_v answer_v it_o out_o of_o augustine_n who_o say_v 55._o t._n 7._o col._n 84._o c._n edit_n basil_n ibid._n col._n 55._o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o profit_n all_o that_o baptism_n profit_v not_o without_o charity_n that_o one_o baptism_n by_o faith_n purge_v and_o that_o the_o virtue_n of_o baptism_n be_v not_o in_o the_o water_n but_o in_o the_o word_n which_o we_o forbear_v to_o quote_v and_o translate_v at_o large_a as_o have_v too_o much_o if_o it_o may_v have_v be_v prevent_v trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o quotation_n already_o they_o be_v obvious_a to_o he_o that_o read_v augustine_n but_o mr_n t._n 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o object_n that_o catechise_n afore_o baptism_n continue_v in_o augustine_n time_n and_o after_o a_o great_a while_n in_o asia_n because_o peter_n cluniacensis_fw-la say_v that_o there_o have_v be_v none_o but_o infant_n baptize_v in_o all_o europe_n for_o 300_o or_o 500_o year_n afore_o his_o time_n but_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n in_o asia_n we_o answer_v first_o touch_v cluniacensis_fw-la we_o have_v say_v abundance_n afore_o second_o animadver_n animadver_n that_o this_o argument_n do_v no_o more_o determine_v any_o thing_n about_o asia_n then_o about_o africa_n which_o be_v mr_n t._n his_o qu._n in_o hand_n and_o for_o africa_n we_o have_v hear_v abundant_o out_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o antiquity_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n three_o cluniacensis_fw-la profess_v himself_o a_o latin_a ignorant_a of_o greek_a and_o other_o tongue_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o determine_v here_o any_o thing_n concern_v place_n out_o of_o europe_n but_o be_v silent_a concern_v they_o four_o touch_v baptism_n of_o infant_n in_o asia_n we_o hear_v afore_o to_o that_o mr_n t._n object_n augustine_n and_o ambrose_n his_o judgement_n for_o infant-baptisme_n as_o put_v too_o much_o in_o the_o ordinance_n as_o conduce_v to_o salvation_n
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