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A76800 The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations. Blackwood, Christopher. 1644 (1644) Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842 101,204 126

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acknowledge●h_v he_o have_v no_o dominion_n over_o the_o corinthian_n 2_o cor._n 1.24_o ●f_n such_o a_o apostle_n disclaim_v it_o upon_o what_o pretence_n can_v any_o magistrate_n or_o presbyter_n in_o the_o world_n require_v it_o now_o be_v it_o not_o a_o dominion_n when_o in_o case_n of_o scruple_n of_o compliance_n with_o public_a practice_n or_o practise_v according_a to_o the_o light_a the_o lord_n give_v we_o we_o shall_v be_v force_v from_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o 1_o pe●_n 5._o not_o as_o lord_n over_o god_n heritage_n now_o he_o lord_n it_o that_o impose_v law_n upon_o the_o conscience_n 2_o persecution_n for_o conscience_n be_v unlawful_a because_o of_o the_o near_a relation_n god_n people_n be_v to_o god_n they_o be_v god_n anoint_a psal_n 105.15_o touch_v not_o my_o anointed_n much_o less_o fine_a banish_v imprison_v and_o whe●_n paul_n will_v have_v bring_v the_o brethren_n bind_v to_o jerusalem_n for_o profess_v the_o say_v of_o christ_n and_o renounce_v judaisme_n 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