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say_v that_o paul_n and_o timothy_n deliver_v 16._o act._n 16._o unto_o the_o church_n the_o order_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n and_o yet_o it_o appear_v in_o another_o place_n that_o the_o church_n have_v also_o to_o do_v and_o give_v their_o consent_n unto_o the_o make_n 23._o act._n 15._o verse_n 23._o of_o those_o decree_n so_o that_o the_o former_a place_n mean_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n do_v go_v before_o and_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o director_n of_o that_o action_n the_o same_o manner_n of_o speech_n be_v use_v of_o the_o one_o the_o you_o say_v so_o but_o you_o show_v not_o one_o roman_a story_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o counsel_n do_v make_v magistrate_n for_o because_o that_o he_o gather_v the_o assembly_n and_o voice_n whereby_o they_o be_v make_v and_o so_o s._n luke_n say_v here_o that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v because_o they_o be_v the_o moderator_n of_o the_o election_n cause_v it_o to_o be_v make_v assemble_v 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shall_v be_v always_o in_o doubt_n whether_o we_o be_v right_o baptize_v or_o no_o but_o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o the_o force_n &_o strength_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o in_o the_o man_n be_v he_o minister_v or_o not_o minister_v be_v he_o good_a or_o evil_n but_o in_o god_n himself_o in_o his_o spirit_n in_o his_o free_a &_o effectual_a operation_n and_o therefore_o say_v s._n paul_n what_o be_v paul_n what_o be_v apollo_n etc._n etc._n this_o i_o speak_v not_o to_o bring_v confusion_n into_o the_o church_n for_o as_o i_o say_v before_o let_v man_n take_v heed_n that_o they_o usurp_v not_o a_o office_n whereunto_o they_o be_v not_o call_v for_o god_n will_v call_v they_o to_o a_o account_n for_o so_o do_v but_o to_o teach_v a_o truth_n to_o take_v a_o yoke_n of_o doubtfulness_n from_o man_n conscience_n and_o to_o resist_v a_o error_n not_o much_o differ_v from_o donatisme_n and_o anabaptisme_n chap._n 5._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag_n 114._o sect._n 1_o for_o 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c._n page_n 115._o lin._n 12._o and_o in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n it_o be_v simple_o decree_v that_o a_o woman_n ought_v not_o to_o 100_o tom._n 1._o con_v ca._n 100_o baptise_v io._n whitgifte_n this_o canon_n in_o gratian_n the_o conse_n disti_fw-la 4._o be_v thus_o report_v mulier_fw-la quamuis_fw-la docta_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la viros_fw-la in_o comuentu_fw-la docere_fw-la vel_fw-la aliquos_fw-la baptizare_fw-la non_fw-la praesumat_fw-la nisi_fw-la necessitate_n cogent_fw-fr let_v not_o a_o woman_n although_o learned_a and_o godly_a presume_v to_o teach_v man_n in_o a_o assembly_n or_o to_o baptise_v any_o except_o necessity_n constrain_v so_o that_o the_o canon_n inhibit_v woman_n to_o preach_v or_o to_o baptise_v in_o the_o open_a church_n and_o public_a assembly_n and_o this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o this_o place_n neither_o dother_n it_o impugn_v any_o thing_n affirm_v in_o the_o answer_n chap._n 5._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 115._o 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same_o end_n ten_o eth_z the_o civil_a government_n which_o they_o do_v exercise_n as_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o chap._n 1._o the._n 9_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 230._o sect._n 4._o in_o the._n 1._o tim._n 5._o verse_n 2._o he_o will_v timothy_n to_o exhort_v the_o elder_a woman_n as_o mother_n the_o young_a as_o sister_n whereupon_o you_o conclude_v thus_o elder_a woman_n must_v be_v exhort_v as_o mother_n the_o young_a as_o sister_n with_o all_o pureness_n ergo_fw-la the_o government_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n must_v be_v spiritual_a t._n c._n pag._n 167._o lin._n 5._o and_o to_o this_o end_n also_o be_v allege_v by_o the_o admonition_n the_o place_n of_o tim._n wherein_o the_o apostle_n teach_v 5._o 1._o tim._n 5._o part_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n which_o the_o minister_n may_v use_v to_o consist_v in_o reprehension_n and_o rebuke_n which_o must_v be_v temper_v according_a as_o the_o estate_n and_o age_n of_o every_o one_o do_v 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occasion_n require_v therefore_o he_o may_v not_o execute_v any_o civil_a office_n the_o reason_n be_v all_o one_o your_o defence_n of_o this_o place_n be_v very_o slender_a and_o you_o may_v with_o as_o much_o credit_n to_o they_o have_v pass_v it_o over_o as_o you_o have_v do_v diverse_a other_o chap._n 1._o the._n 10._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 230._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o place_n to_o the_o ephes._n the_o apostle_n say_v that_o god_n have_v appoint_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v his_o body_n even_o the_o fullness_n of_o he_o that_o fill_v all_o in_o all_o thing_n here_o we_o learn_v that_o christ_n magistracy_n spiritual_a go_v vernment_n take_v not_o away_o civil_a magistracy_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n but_o how_o prove_v this_o that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o spiritual_a will_v you_o hereby_o take_v away_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o other_o governoure_v that_o god_n have_v place_v in_o his_o church_n it_o be_v subtle_o do_v of_o you_o to_o quote_v the_o place_n only_o and_o not_o to_o apply_v they_o nor_o to_o conclude_v of_o they_o for_o sure_o if_o you_o have_v lay_v down_o the_o word_n and_o apply_v they_o to_o your_o purpose_n not_o wise_a and_o learned_a only_a but_o very_a child_n will_v have_v laugh_v you_o to_o scorn_v t._n c._n pag._n 167._o lin._n 12._o further_n touch_v the_o place_n of_o the_o ephes._n for_o so_o much_o as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n as_o he_o be_v head_n of_o his_o church_n be_v the_o spiritual_a governor_n thereof_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o their_o government_n which_o be_v appoint_v underneath_o he_o as_o he_o be_v head_n shall_v be_v likewise_o spiritual_a as_o he_o be_v for_o as_o for_o the_o cyvil_a 11._o 1._o cor._n 11._o magistrate_n although_o he_o be_v appoint_v of_o chryst_n as_o he_o be_v god_n in_o which_o respect_n there_o be_v none_o above_o christ_n yet_o he_o be_v not_o appoint_v of_o he_o in_o respect_n that_o he_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o regard_n whereof_o god_n be_v above_o christ_n and_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v the_o head_n of_o he_o io._n whitgifte_n christ_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o spiritual_o govern_v the_o same_o in_o the_o conscience_n spiritual_a the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o only_o spiritual_a but_o because_o it_o have_v also_o a_o outward_a and_o visible_a form_n therefore_o it_o require_v a_o outward_a and_o visible_a government_n which_o christ_n do_v execute_v aswell_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o he_o do_v by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n and_o therefore_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o respect_n of_o the_o external_a and_o visible_a form_n of_o it_o be_v not_o only_o spiritual_a christ_n govern_v by_o himself_o spiritual_o only_a and_o by_o his_o minister_n both_o spiritual_o and_o external_o and_o therefore_o your_o reason_n be_v nothing_o but_o why_o do_v you_o not_o answer_v in_o this_o place_n to_o that_o which_o i_o charge_v they_o with_o touch_v the_o civil_a autho_fw-mi t._n c._n content_a to_o pass_v y_o the_o ab_fw-la dge_v of_o civil_a autho_fw-mi magistrate_n in_o the_o former_a place_n where_o i_o speak_v no_o such_o thing_n you_o say_v that_o i_o untrue_o surmise_v that_o they_o shut_v out_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n from_o punish_v the_o wicked_a but_o here_o when_o i_o charge_v they_o that_o by_o their_o application_n of_o this_o place_n they_o take_v away_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o other_o governor_n that_o god_n have_v place_v in_o his_o church_n you_o answer_v not_o one_o word_n in_o deed_n both_o you_o and_o they_o by_o your_o false_a interpretation_n of_o this_o and_o such_o like_a place_n do_v altogether_o seclude_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n from_o any_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o effect_n say_v with_o the_o papist_n that_o he_o do_v govern_v as_o he_o be_v man_n and_o not_o as_o he_o be_v a_o christian_n and_o that_o he_o govern_v man_n in_o that_o they_o be_v man_n and_o not_o in_o that_o they_o be_v christian_a man_n which_o may_v well_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o turk_n have_v christian_n subject_v under_o he_o but_o it_o be_v wickedness_n to_o think_v it_o of_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n and_o it_o do_v not_o much_o differ_v from_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o anabaptiste_n chap._n 1._o the._n 11._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 230._o sect._n 5._o 6._o &_o pag._n 231._o sect._n 1_o in_o the._n 10._o hebr._n verse_n 30._o it_o be_v thus_o write_v for_o we_o know_v he_o that_o have_v say_v vengeance_n belong_v unto_o i_o i_o will_v recompense_v say_v the_o lord_n and_o again_o the_o lord_n shall_v judge_v his_o people_n vengeance_n belong_v to_o god_n and_o he_o shall_v judge_v his_o people_n ergo_fw-la the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n must_v be_v spiritual_a purpose_n fond_a argument_n and_o to_o no_o purpose_n i_o be_o ashamed_a of_o these_o reason_n and_o so_o will_v you_o be_v likewise_o if_o you_o be_v not_o past_a shame_n if_o you_o mean_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v spiritual_a because_o god_n by_o his_o spirit_n gift_n and_o ministry_n of_o his_o word_n do_v govern_v it_o you_o say_v true_o although_o these_o place_n be_v unapt_o allege_v but_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o therefore_o there_o need_v no_o civil_a magistrate_n no_o civil_a and_o politic_a law_n no_o external_a discipline_n no_o outward_a ceremony_n and_o order_n you_o be_v great_o deceyve_v and_o join_v with_o the_o anabaptiste_n who_o error_n in_o that_o point_n be_v sufficient_o by_o dyvers_a learned_a man_n confute_v and_o therefore_o i_o will_v not_o as_o yet_o intermeddle_v therewith_o until_o i_o understande_v further_o of_o your_o meaning_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o be_v leave_v unanswered_a ¶_o the_o reason_n which_o t._n c._n use_v
158._o lin._n 15._o etc._n etc._n that_o can_v not_o see_v beside_o this_o it_o be_v a_o popish_a and_o a_o ungodly_a opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o worthiness_n and_o profitablenesse_n of_o the_o scripture_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n 5._o jobn_n 5._o john_n 5._o search_v the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n 2._o tim._n 3._o omnis_fw-la 13._o 2._o tim._n 3._o tract_n 13._o scriptura_fw-la divinitùs_fw-la inspirata_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o contrary_a to_o all_o that_o that_o i_o have_v allege_v before_o for_o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o the_o which_o for_o the_o further_a confutation_n of_o this_o ungodly_a error_n i_o do_v refer_v the_o reader_n answer_v to_o the_o detraction_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 3._o iu_n the_o same_o leaf_n and_o five_o reason_n to_o these_o word_n beside_o that_o we_o never_o read_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o this_o word_n priest_n as_o touch_v office_n be_v use_v in_o the_o exception_n correction_n with_o exception_n good_a part_n in_o the_o second_o edition_n be_v add_v except_o it_o speak_v of_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n or_o of_o the_o priesthood_n of_o christ._n here_o as_o i_o think_v they_o have_v forget_v that_o which_o peter_n speak_v to_o all_o christian_n in_o he_o 1._o epist._n cap._n 2._o ver_fw-la 5._o and_o you_o as_o lyvely_a stone_n be_v make_v a_o spiritual_a house_n and_o holy_a priesthood_n to_o offer_v up_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n acceptable_a to_o god_n by_o jesus_n christ._n &_o ver_fw-la 9_o but_o you_o be_v a_o choose_a generation_n a_o royal_a priesthood_n etc._n etc._n and_o apo._n 1._o and_o make_v we_o king_n and_o priest_n unto_o god_n etc._n etc._n i_o will_v they_o before_o to_o show_v i_o one_o place_n in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n where_o this_o word_n priest_n as_o touch_v the_o office_n be_v take_v in_o evil_a part_n i_o may_v be_v deceyve_v but_o i_o desire_v to_o learn_v t._n c._n pag._n 174._o sect._n 1_o and_o upon_o the._n 3._o leaf_n where_o he_o give_v instance_n in_o the_o apocalips_n of_o the_o word_n priest_n to_o be_v take_v otherwise_o than_o for_o the_o levitical_a priesthood_n and_o priesthood_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ._n m._n d._n can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o the_o admonition_n speak_v of_o those_o which_o be_v priest_n in_o deed_n &_o proper_o and_o not_o by_o those_o which_o be_v priest_n by_o a_o inctaphore_n and_o borrow_a speech_n and_o whereas_o he_o desire_v to_o learn_v where_o the_o word_n priest_n be_v take_v in_o evil_a part_n in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n although_o all_o man_n see_v how_o he_o ask_v this_o question_n of_o no_o mind_n to_o learn_v yet_o if_o he_o will_v learn_v as_o he_o say_v he_o shall_v find_v that_o in_o ▪_o in_o in_o what_o chapter_n ▪_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v take_v diverse_a time_n in_o evil_a part_n for_o see_v that_o the_o office_n &_o function_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v of_o priest_n 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