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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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in_o they_o not_o be_v the_o same_o but_o distinct_a for_o in_o the_o one_o the_o argument_n be_v from_o their_o be_v disciple_n or_o scholar_n and_o therefore_o under_o discipline_n in_o christ_n school_n but_o this_o here_o be_v from_o their_o be_v baptise_a and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o the_o authoritative_a teach_n of_o christ_n minister_n and_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o all_o his_o commandment_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o discipline_n for_o thus_o the_o argument_n stand_v they_o that_o be_v baptise_a be_v thereby_o leave_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subject_n on_o to_o the_o authoritative_a teach_n of_o christ_n minister_n and_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o all_o his_o commandment_n and_o therefore_o in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o discipline_n but_o the_o adult_a person_n speak_v of_o be_v person_n baptise_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o proposition_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o text_n mat._n 28.19_o 20._o where_o christ_n minister_n be_v require_v to_o baptise_v and_o to_o teach_v the_o baptise_a to_o observe_v all_o his_o commandment_n the_o assumption_n be_v plain_a of_o itself_o to_o the_o seven_o argument_n viz._n that_o elder_n must_v seed_v i._n e._n both_o teach_v and_o rule_v all_o the_o flock_n and_o that_o child_n be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o concern_v not_o such_o grow_a person_n as_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o without_o this_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v of_o the_o flock_n or_o church_n ans._n if_o this_o that_o be_v here_o say_v be_v sufficient_o and_o clear_o prove_v it_o will_v be_v very_o acceptable_a to_o many_o elder_n in_o this_o country_n as_o clear_v they_o from_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o burden_n which_o they_o suppose_v themselves_o to_o be_v under_o and_o when_o the_o holy-ghost_n say_v that_o they_o must_v take_v heed_n to_o themselves_o and_o to_o 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express_v yet_o churchway_n may_v be_v want_v for_o all_o this_o 2._o those_o church-waye_n that_o be_v mention_v viz._n care_n in_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o due_a manage_v the_o key_n of_o discipline_n to_o they_o that_o be_v so_o admit_v these_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prevent_v the_o evil_n speak_v of_o and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o there_o be_v a_o great_a multitude_n of_o person_n who_o be_v either_o bear_v in_o the_o church_n or_o be_v admit_v thereinto_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n who_o if_o they_o be_v not_o under_o church-discipline_n when_o adult_n be_v let_v alone_o in_o their_o wickedness_n in_o respect_n of_o any_o churchway_n to_o heal_v they_o and_o by_o want_n of_o this_o church-discipline_n towards_o these_o person_n irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n may_v break_v into_o the_o church_n notwithstanding_o all_o church-waye_n towards_o other_o and_o all_o other_o way_n in_o commonwealth_n and_o family_n towards_o these_o for_o churchway_n 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invention_n why_o shall_v this_o be_v affirm_v and_o not_o prove_v for_o as_o for_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o they_o be_v not_o first_o admit_v when_o adult_n but_o before_o they_o be_v adult_n even_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n and_o now_o be_v adult_n and_o yet_o never_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o from_o their_o church-relation_n if_o by_o sin_n they_o deserve_v church-censure_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o apply_v to_o they_o but_o that_o in_o respect_n thereof_o they_o be_v let_v alone_o be_v they_o not_o then_o under_o that_o judgement_n hos._n 4_o of_o be_v ●e●_n alone_o in_o their_o wickedness_n and_o do_v not_o this_o neglect_v make_v way_n for_o irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n in_o church_n no_o churchway_n be_v use_v towards_o these_o for_o prevent_v thereof_o for_o we_o do_v not_o see_v any_o ground_n to_o think_v that_o the_o use_n of_o church_n discipline_n towards_o such_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n for_o these_o particular_n to_o we_o do_v seem_v plain_a 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of_o what_o be_v say_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o three_o proposition_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n when_o grow_v up_o be_v under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n propose_v 4._o the_o four_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v that_o these_o adult_n person_n be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n mere_o because_o they_o be_v and_o continue_v member_n without_o such_o further_a qualification_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n require_v thereunto_o by_o which_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n there_o be_v a_o prevent_n of_o a_o usual_a objection_n from_o the_o danger_n of_o pollute_v the_o ordinance_n by_o unworthy_a partaker_n if_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v count_v member_n and_o to_o be_v as_o such_o under_o church-watchfulness_n and_o government_n when_o adult_n for_o some_o may_v think_v that_o if_o this_o their_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n be_v grant_v there_o will_v then_o 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than_o the_o servant_n since_o in_o the_o cafe_z allege_v the_o servant_n may_v trade_v under_o the_o freeman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n may_v we_o suppose_v none_o will_v say_v this_o and_o therefore_o in_o this_o the_o comparison_n do_v not_o suit_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o order_n and_o privilege_n of_o corporation_n be_v various_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o several_a charter_n but_o what_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v we_o know_v viz._n that_o in_o gen._n 17._o it_o take_v in_o child_n into_o the_o church_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v put_v out_o till_o censurable_a iniquity_n do_v appear_v 2._o if_o in_o some_o corporation_n one_o that_o be_v freeborn_a do_v lose_v his_o privilege_n when_o he_o become_v adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o engagement_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o sure_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o paul_n who_o 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