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A42884 A true and lively character of a right communicating church-member briefely laid down in eighteen severall arguments: proving an absolute necessity of separating, not only, from all that are openly prophane, but from such also, who have not some visible, that is to say, probable worke of the sanctifying spirit upon them. By Iohn Gobert Master of Arts, and minister of the Gospel. Gobert, John. 1650 (1650) Wing G904B; ESTC R217419 24,327 70

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A true and lively CHARACTER Of a right COMMUNICATING Church-Member Brifely laid down in Eighteen severall ARGUMENTS Proving an absolute necessity of separating not only from all that are openly Prophane but from such also who have not some visible that is to say probable worke of the sanctifying Spirit upon them By IOHN GOBERT Master of Arts and Minister of the Gospel LONDON Printed by Charles Sumptner for Tho Brewster and Greg Moule at the three Bibles under Mildreds Church in the Poultry 1650. THE AVTHOR TO THE READER Courteous Reader FOr the Author to commend his owne Work if it were praise-worthy yet t is altogether improper remembring the old saying Laudet te os alienum non tuum And indeed it deserves no praise chiefly for the manner of handling when in reading the very first page thou wilt meet with many Inconsonances even to Grammar wherein the Author confesseth his weaknesse and craves thy pardon Moreover cease to marveile for these papers were written by a dead man neverthelesse I counsell thee to read this Book and weigh the matter delight thy self in seeking the truth and so then wilt begin to understand the Riddle how a dead man may write Books Thine JOHN GOBERT To the High Court of Parliament AND To the Councell of State AS ALSO To His Excellency Thomas Lord Fairfax Lord Generall of all the Parliaments Forces John Gobert Minister of the Word wisheth increase of Grace and Happinesse here and hereafter Right Honeurable THe holy Apostle exhorting to Christian duties among other important Exhortations hath this one viz. That we ought to be alwayes ready to give an answer to every one that asketh a reason of the hope that is in us with meeknesse and reverence 1 Pet. 3. 15. If in the performance of this duty we are obliged to one much more to many if to such as have not Power to Examine much sooner to such as have And although your suppliant not being cald upon to give an answer might in this particular justly plead Exemption as one who in this boldnesse might seem rather to Create a businesse to himselfe than to performe any task imposed Yet as often as he confidereth first the condition of his Calling being both a Minister of the Gospel a Member of the Commonwealth Secondly the condition of the present Times being in some respects the Worst as they are the Last wherein Sathan and all his malignant Instruments do by all wayes and means seek what they can to obstruct and retard at least if not utterly to overthrow that blessed work of Reformation so happily begun by you Thirdly reflecting upon those too justly grounded Feares and Jealousies which your Honours yet have lest the people of this Nation chiefly those of our Calling should be over-much wantting to themselves in not joyning with you in your Endeavours to promote the Churches good I say from these and the like considerations your Suppliant could not but presume that it would not be altogether unwelcome or ill taken if a poore Minister of the Gospel in a matter of such deepe Concernment upon which the whole Fabrick of this blessed Reformation as upon its proper Hinge turneth but hath also as farre as concerneth an Externall Church-communion an influence into the Rights and Priviledges of all the Faithfull Do chuse for this once and in this so weighty a Matter to deliver his judgment not that he attributeth any thing to this weake and light skirmish which he hath set upon or that this most Excellent Cause should from the Authors handling it seeme to receive any Grace or Lustre He is farre from conceiving any such improbability His only Aime and Designe in this undertaking was partly to give an occasion to the Reader from the light which doe so manifestly breake forth in this briefe Polemicall discourse to give occasion to thinke how great good might in this Subject-matter to the Churches further Edification be done If some one of stronger Gifts or greater Abilities would undert●ke it partly being as a Spectator induced to behold the fru●t of Rebecca finding two contrary births to struggle in her wombe I meane the blessed issue of all th●se Church-agonies which these latter times have afforded I could not but in the Spirit admire with Moses at this great sight and to become an humble Suitor to all your Honours that since this Zara which in the Primitive times did even then put forth his hand to become the First borne and yet for causes best knowne to the Divine Majesty hath puld back his hand againe in that for most of the Ages since the Churches Infancy this Zara for the scarlet thread of Light and Truth which Divine Providence like Tamars Midwife did even as it were ●h●n put about his hand hath made all the Spectators since that time rather to looke and wish for Zara's birth than to see it but loe now this Zara is come Pha●es the first borne I mean the party-coloured or externally-spotted Church-Member ha●h already acted his part too well knowne to all spectators ●o the many fearfull breaches which to others scandall and his owne greater losse and disparagement he hath made in the Wombe of the Church Loe now his brother Zara is borne to be knowne to all that are spir●tually sighted by the scarlet thread of Light and Truth about him Receive him therefore I most humbly beseech your Honours He calleth upon and cryeth to God as his Father and upon your Honours as both Midwife and Nurse Therefore as you have in the provision of the sincere Milke of the Word shewed your tender care of this younger Brothers inward Man you would also vouchsafe every Zara your Protection from the wrong and violence of his Mothers children who would faigne make him Keeper of their Vineyard My meaning is that according to the Place and Power God hath set you in you would be Patrons and Protectors of the Sonnes of Peace that Ministers or People might not dash themselves one against another with severitie and austeritie for matters Circumstantiall whiles both hold the Head Christ. So shall you oblige thousands and my selfe among the rest with much love in the Lord Christ to serve you Your Honours most humbly devoted in all Services to his power JOHN GOBERT That a true Church ought only to be gathered of visible Saints and that men either openly wicked or meerely civill that is to say such as are not seen beside their formall profession to have some worke of the Spirit upon them ought not to bee taken into Church-fellowship These following arguments doe most manifestly prove the first argument is taken from Christs example in gathering his Disciples Thus WHatsoever work or practise doe abhor from Christs example and in that also wherein we can follow him that kind of worke or practise is not lawfull but to gather a Church other then of visible Saints doth abhor and is repugnant to Christs example and practise and in that also wherein we