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A50249 A disputation concerning church-members and their children in answer to XXI questions wherein the state of such children when adult, together with their duty towards the church, and the churches duty towards them is discussed by an assembly of divines meeting at Boston in New England, June 4th, 1657 / now published by a lover of truth. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing M1271A; ESTC R3585 21,931 42

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all_o ordinance_n and_o full_a communion_n deut._n 29._o 12_o 14._o 2_o chron._n 15._o 12._o 2_o chron._n 34._o 31_o 32._o where_o it_o be_v mention_v as_o the_o performance_n of_o a_o duty_n whereto_o they_o stand_v oblige_v by_o the_o covenant_n make_v in_o their_o infancy_n propos._n 3._o be_v according_o call_v thereunto_o if_o after_o church-admonition_n and_o other_o due_a mean_n with_o patience_n use_v 7._o they_o shall_v refuse_v the_o performance_n of_o this_o great_a duty_n or_o in_o case_n they_o shall_v notwithstanding_o like_o mean_n apply_v any_o otherwise_o continue_v scandalous_a it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n to_o proceed_v with_o they_o to_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n because_o the_o fact_n mention_v deserve_v excommunication_n 2_o chron._n 15._o 13._o mat._n 18._o 17._o 2_o cor._n 5._o 11._o 2_o thes._n 3._o 6_o 14._o and_o the_o person_n be_v church-member_n be_v confederate_a with_o their_o parent_n and_o the_o church_n as_o the_o matter_n 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