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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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god_n by_o consent_v to_o god_n covenant_n for_o themselves_o and_o they_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o israelite_n to_o engage_v and_o devote_v their_o child_n to_o god_n in_o covenant_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o evident_a from_o the_o penalty_n even_o to_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o his_o people_n annex_v for_o the_o non-performance_n and_o whether_o this_o be_v not_o as_o much_o our_o duty_n still_o do_v not_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n bind_v we_o to_o give_v to_o every_o one_o his_o own_o due_a and_o be_v not_o infant_n god_n own_o due_a do_v not_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n bind_v parent_n to_o give_v they_o up_o to_o god_n by_o acknowledge_v his_o right_n with_o a_o free_a resignation_n and_o dedication_n of_o the_o inf●n●_n to_o god_n as_o his_o own_o baptist_n antiq._n 30._o where_o be_v christian_a parent_n require_v to_o devote_v their_o child_n by_o consent_v to_o any_o covenant_n for_o they_o or_o in_o their_o stead_n as_o the_o jew_n be_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o what_o penalty_n have_v god_n impose_v on_o they_o that_o devote_v not_o their_o insant_n by_o sprinkle_v they_o as_o you_o do_v and_o whether_o we_o do_v omit_v the_o duty_n of_o devote_v our_o child_n to_o god_n in_o any_o thing_n wherein_o the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o nature_n oblige_v we_o abate_v we_o all_o what_o must_v be_v abate_v and_o who_o deny_v infant_n to_o be_v capable_a of_o infant-relation_n obligation_n or_o right_n or_o who_o oppose_v their_o be_v devote_v to_o god_n in_o their_o capacity_n and_o whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o mere_a noise_n of_o word_n as_o if_o all_o that_o do_v not_o as_o you_o do_v do_v lay_v a_o side_n their_o care_n and_o duty_n towards_o infant_n and_o where_o be_v the_o institution_n of_o your_o public_a way_n have_v we_o not_o a_o more_o certain_a institute_v way_n to_o devote_v they_o to_o god_n by_o prayer_n and_o to_o educate_v they_o in_o his_o fear_n as_o they_o be_v capable_a than_o you_o have_v to_o cross_v or_o sprinkle_v they_o presbyterian_a query_n 31._o whether_o anabaptist_n themselves_o all_o of_o they_o that_o be_v true_o pious_a do_v not_o virtual_o though_o not_o actual_o devote_v their_o child_n to_o god_n and_o consent_n to_o their_o covenant-relation_n while_o they_o vehement_o plead_v against_o it_o baptist_n antiqu._n 31._o whether_o you_o do_v not_o great_o wrong_v yourself_o and_o those_o you_o call_v anabaptist_n in_o say_v they_o vehement_o plead_v against_o devote_v their_o child_n to_o god_n yea_o sure_a they_o do_v it_o actual_o as_o far_o as_o god_n word_n require_v and_o can_v you_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o devote_v child_n to_o god_n but_o in_o your_o way_n how_o then_o do_v adam_n enoch_n scth_v noah_n etc._n etc._n devote_v their_o child_n to_o god_n and_o it_o will_v do_v well_o also_o if_o you_o can_v show_v we_o how_o they_o consent_v to_o any_o covenant_n for_o their_o infant_n more_o than_o we_o do_v or_o prove_v if_o you_o can_v that_o you_o yourselves_o do_v consent_n to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n for_o your_o infant_n more_o than_o we_o who_o you_o call_v anabaptist_n do_v not_o eusebius_n pamphilius_n count_v christianity_n as_o old_a as_o adam_n l._n 1._o c._n 1._o and_o do_v not_o tertullian_n say_v enoch_n justissimum_fw-la non_fw-la circumcisum_fw-la nec_fw-la sibbatizantem_fw-la etc._n etc._n enochan_n upright_a man_n be_v translate_v by_o god_n though_o he_o be_v not_o circumcise_v neither_o yet_o do_v observe_v the_o sabba●h_n ---_o ut_fw-la aeternitas_fw-la candidatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o who_o do_v aspire_v to_o eternity_n may_v show_v we_o that_o we_o may_v please_v god_n without_o the_o burden_n of_o moses_n law_n and_o what_o law_n save_o the_o la●_n of_o circumcision_n do_v ever_o require_v infant_n to_o be_v bring_v to_o practical_a ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n presbyterian_a query_n 32._o be_v it_o not_o a_o desperate_a undertake_n and_o dare_v any_o adventure_n on_o it_o to_o justify_v all_o the_o world_n before_o christ_n incarnation_n except_o the_o jew_n from_o the_o guilt_n of_o not_o dedicate_a their_o child_n to_o god_n and_o do_v not_o they_o that_o say_v there_o be_v no_o law_n in_o this_o case_n say_v there_o be_v no_o transgression_n a●d_a dare_v any_o in_o like_a manner_n undertake_v to_o justify_v at_o the_o bar_n of_o god_n all_o the_o world_n since_o christ_n incarnation_n from_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n in_o not_o dedicate_a their_o children'to_n christ_n and_o enter_v they_o into_o his_o covenant_n as_o member_n of_o his_o church_n dare_v any_o maintain_v that_o all_o the_o world_n be_v sinless_a in_o this_o respect_n baptist_n antiq._n 32._o whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o very_a unwise_a query_n as_o if_o none_o of_o the_o father_n do_v dedicate_v their_o infant_n to_o god_n unless_o they_o bring_v they_o to_o some_o practical_a ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o only_a thing_n you_o do_v so_o complain_v of_o and_o how_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n dedicate_v their_o female_a infant_n to_o god_n since_o we_o find_v no_o practical_a ordinance_n for_o they_o in_o infancy_n or_o who_o go_v about_o to_o justify_v the_o world_n if_o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n will_v they_o to_o do_v for_o their_o infant_n and_o may_v we_o not_o well_o justify_v all_o man_n for_o not_o do_v that_o which_o the_o law_n of_o god_n never_o require_v presbyterian_a query_n 33._o be_v it_o not_o a_o great_a benefit_n and_o privilege_n to_o be_v a_o visible_a church-member_n of_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o his_o church_n as_o visible_a be_v it_o not_o abenefit_n in_o itself_o beside_o the_o consequent_n to_o be_v visible_o unite_v and_o relate_v to_o christ_n and_o his_o body_n be_v not_o such_o a_o relation_n to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o the_o church_n a_o honour_n and_o how_o great_a be_v the_o misery_n of_o a_o contrary_a state_n and_o if_o infant_n church-membership_a be_v no_o benefit_n then_o how_o be_v they_o that_o have_v it_o when_o they_o come_v to_o age_n or_o their_o parent_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n oblige_v to_o any_o thankfulness_n for_o it_o will_v any_o say_v that_o neither_o they_o nor_o their_o parent_n be_v oblige_v to_o thankfulness_n upon_o this_o account_n baptist_n antiqu._n 33._o what_o benefit_n be_v it_o to_o bring_v infant_n to_o that_o which_o god_n require_v not_o of_o they_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v any_o loss_n to_o they_o till_o god_n require_v it_o and_o see_v you_o make_v your_o pedo-rantism_a this_o all_o in_o all_o show_v we_o what_o benefit_n or_o privilege_v you_o have_v when_o sprinkle_v more_o than_o the_o infant_n of_o a_o pious_a baptist_n and_o what_o be_v that_o benefit_n that_o all_o who_o be_v sprinkle_v by_o the_o papist_n do_v receive_v which_o you_o ratify_v for_o good_a baptism_n or_o how_o be_v their_o infant_n church-member_n more_o than_o we_o and_o whether_o our_o child_n when_o grow_v up_o have_v not_o a_o fair_a way_n to_o the_o purity_n of_o christianity_n in_o that_o they_o be_v not_o entangle_v with_o such_o tradition_n presbyterian_a query_n 34._o be_v it_o not_o certain_a that_o infant_n be_v capable_a of_o this_o benefit_n if_o god_n deny_v it_o not_o but_o will_v give_v it_o they_o as_o well_o as_o the_o age_a and_o be_v it_o not_o certain_a that_o they_o be_v actual_o member_n of_o all_o the_o commonwealth_n in_o the_o world_n perfect_v say_v imperfect_a membra_fw-la and_o do_v not_o nature_n seem_v actual_o to_o have_v teach_v most_o people_n on_o earth_n to_o repute_v their_o infant_n in_o the_o same_o religious_a society_n with_o themselves_o as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o same_o civil_a society_n baptist_n antiqu._n 34._o that_o infant_n be_v capable_a of_o what_o god_n will_v give_v they_o be_v very_o true_a and_o we_o therefore_o ask_v whether_o infant_n be_v not_o as_o capable_a of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o baptism_n if_o the_o lord_n will_v give_v it_o they_o and_o as_o far_o as_o god_n will_v be_v that_o infant_n shall_v be_v relate_v to_o his_o church_n we_o doubt_v not_o of_o their_o capacity_n for_o it_o and_o why_o be_v the_o order_n of_o commonwealth_n so_o much_o insist_v on_o in_o this_o case_n be_v we_o to_o fetch_v our_o rule_n for_o dispense_n ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o civil_a policy_n of_o nation_n we_o desire_v you_o still_o to_o show_v we_o what_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n oblige_v we_o to_o do_v for_o our_o infant_n which_o we_o do_v not_o be_v both_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n break_v by_o all_o that_o bring_v not_o their_o infant_n to_o be_v cross_v or_o sprinkle_v as_o you_o do_v sure_o you_o can_v
query_n 15._o be_v it_o not_o then_o the_o duty_n of_o all_o the_o nation_n round_o about_o that_o can_v have_v information_n of_o the_o jewish_a religion_n to_o engage_v themselves_o and_o their_o child_n to_o god_n by_o circumcision_n and_o do_v not_o many_o of_o the_o people_n in_o hester_n time_n become_v jew_n hest_n 8._o 17._o who_o yet_o be_v not_o under_o their_o government_n and_o be_v it_o not_o well_o know_v that_o this_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v they_o and_o their_o little_a one_o as_o the_o proselyte_n be_v and_o so_o to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o whether_o the_o circumcise_a servant_n of_o israel_n sell_v away_o to_o another_o nation_n and_o so_o separate_v from_o the_o civil_a state_n of_o israel_n do_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la cease_v to_o be_v church-member_n though_o they_o for_o sook_v not_o god_n and_o ●o_o of_o the_o infant_n if_o they_o be_v sell_v in_o infancy_n and_o so_o whether_o infant_n may_v not_o be_v church-member_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n baptist_n antiqu._n 15._o although_o other_o nation_n have_v the_o liberty_n to_o become_v jew_n yet_o whether_o they_o be_v under_o such_o a_o obligation_n as_o that_o they_o must_v become_v jew_n or_o else_o not_o be_v save_v be_v worthy_a consideration_n and_o whether_o the_o contrary_a will_v not_o be_v find_v true_a when_o the_o case_n of_o cornelius_n act._n 10._o and_o of_o the_o gentile_n rom._n 2._o be_v due_o consider_v whereas_o the_o one_o be_v accept_v as_o fear_v god_n and_o work_a righteousness_n as_o much_o as_o the_o jew_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o jewish_a worship_n and_o the_o other_o gentile_n general_o who_o do_v by_o nature_n the_o thing_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n be_v count_v the_o circumcision_n so_o as_o to_o judge_v the_o jew_n who_o only_o have_v the_o circumcision_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o so_o as_o to_o be_v accept_v of_o god_n as_o far_o at_o least_o as_o the_o righteousness_n of_o the_o law_n will_v avail_v the_o jew_n and_o whether_o the_o infant_n of_o these_o devout_a gentile_n be_v not_o free_a from_o any_o obligation_n to_o circumcision_n or_o any_o other_o external_a ceremony_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v not_o a_o evident_a difference_n between_o the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o the_o one_o be_v fit_v to_o the_o jewish_a nation_n only_o so_o as_o to_o be_v capable_a of_o a_o orderly_a observation_n there_o only_o and_o the_o gospel_n fit_v sor_n the_o observation_n of_o all_o nation_n equal_o and_o consequent_o all_o nation_n equal_o oblige_v to_o the_o full_a and_o orderly_a profession_n thereof_o presbyterian_a query_n 16._o be_v not_o the_o israelite_n child_n member_n of_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n as_o he_o that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o city_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o a_o part_n of_o a_o part_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a so_o be_v not_o ever_o member_n of_o the_o jew_n church_n also_o a_o member_n of_o god_n universal_a church_n baptist_n ant._n 16._o whether_o it_o be_v well_o say_v to_o call_v the_o universal_a church_n visible_a and_o whether_o the_o universal_a church_n do_v not_o contain_v many_o thousand_o such_o as_o job_n cornelius_n &c_n &c_n who_o be_v neither_o jew_n by_o nature_n nor_o religion_n and_o whether_o no_o infant_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o if_o not_o how_o shall_v they_o be_v save_v see_v christ_n be_v only_o the_o saviour_n of_o his_o body_n final_o presbyterian_a query_n 17._o be_v there_o ever_o any_o true_a church_n or_o ecclesiastical_a worship_a society_n appoint_v by_o god_n in_o all_o the_o world_n since_o the_o fall_n but_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o infant_n therefore_o either_o member_n of_o christ_n church_n or_o of_o no_o church_n of_o god_n institution_n be_v not_o moses_n christ_n usher_n and_o moses_n church_n and_o christ_n church_n one_o according_a to_o god_n institution_n baptist_n antiqu._n 17._o whether_o this_o query_n be_v not_o either_o captious_a or_o else_o impertinent_a for_o though_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o same_o in_o some_o sense_n from_o the_o beginning_n yet_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o time_n and_o way_n for_o admission_n of_o the_o member_n thereof_o to_o external_a ceremony_n be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o and_o who_o doubt_v but_o the_o church_n be_v always_o of_o god_n institution_n but_o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o ordinance_n institute_v therein_o belong_v to_o infant_n may_v they_o not_o have_v the_o passeover_n as_o well_o as_o circumcision_n in_o the_o moysaicall_a church_n and_o yet_o have_v neither_o the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o baptism_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n you_o deny_v they_o the_o one_o why_o may_v not_o we_o as_o well_o deny_v the_o other_o baptist_n query_n 18._o whether_o be_v abraham_n make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o circumcision_n or_o circumcise_v because_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o like_a of_o infant_n bear_v in_o his_o house_n and_o how_o can_v the_o cease_n of_o circumcision_n prove_v infant_n church-membership_n cease_v any_o more_o than_o it_o can_v prove_v their_o church-membership_n begin_v with_o circumcision_n or_o that_o woman_n be_v not_o church-member_n because_o not_o circumcise_v or_o that_o all_o israel_n be_v unchurch_v in_o the_o wilderness_n when_o they_o be_v uncircumcised_a for_o forty_o year_n baptist_n antiqu._n 18._o although_o abraham_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n essential_o by_o faith_n yet_o whether_o formal_o in_o that_o church-st●te_a which_o god_n be_v then_o about_o to_o settle_v till_o circumcise_v will_v not_o i_o suppose_v be_v hasty_o affirm_v and_o how_o can_v infant_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n as_o abraham_n then_o be_v see_v they_o have_v no_o faith_n as_o he_o have_v and_o whether_o the_o jewish_a church-state_n do_v not_o cease_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la when_o circumcision_n so_o cease_v and_o then_o whether_o that_o state_n of_o infant_n church-membership_n do_v not_o also_o cease_v and_o like_v as_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o passeover_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la be_v the_o cease_n of_o infant_n right_a to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n even_o so_o we_o ask_v why_o the_o cease_n of_o circumcision_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la be_v not_o as_o true_o the_o ceasation_n of_o infant_n right_a to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n certain_o if_o god_n word_n assign_v any_o ordinance_n in_o lieu_n of_o the_o former_a the_o place_n where_o it_o be_v write_v will_v have_v b●en_o know_v to_o this_o day_n presbyterian_a query_n 19_o whether_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n consist_v not_o chief_o in_o this_o that_o god_n promise_v to_o be_v a_o god_n in_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o his_o seed_n and_o how_o be_v the_o believe_a 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