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A29125 A compendious answer to a book called A brief survay of the judgement of Mr. John Goodvvin, and the Church of God walking with him, touching their reasons of dissenting from many of their brethren, in these imprtant heads of doctrine; 1. Election and reprobation. 2. The death of Christ. 3. The grace of God in and about conversion. 4. The liberty or power of the will, or of the creature man. 5. The perseverance of the saints. VVherein the absurdities of all their dissenting doctrines are clearly exhibited, by a loving friend to the truth it self, Ellis Bradshaw. Bradshaw, Ellis. 1652 (1652) Wing B4139A; ESTC R212996 33,087 46

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23_o 24._o and_o david_n say_v psal_n 145.17_o the_o lord_n be_v righteous_a in_o all_o his_o way_n and_o holy_a in_o all_o his_o work_n yea_o though_o it_o be_v not_o in_o he_o that_o will_v nor_o in_o he_o that_o run_v but_o in_o god_n that_o show_v mercy_n and_o that_o he_o have_v mercy_n on_o who_o he_o will_v and_o who_o he_o will_v he_o harden_v yea_o even_o he_o harden_v as_o vers_fw-la 17_o 18._o and_o 15._o 4._o it_o import_v that_o god_n be_v as_o much_o engage_v to_o show_v mercy_n unto_o all_o as_o to_o any_o at_o all_o and_o so_o that_o god_n be_v unjust_a if_o any_o be_v damn_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o more_o cause_n nor_o reason_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o be_v that_o he_o save_v such_o and_o the_o very_a same_o who_o be_v his_o elect_n then_o if_o he_o shall_v save_v the_o reprobate_n deny_v in_o effect_n that_o there_o be_v any_o cause_n why_o he_o love_v jacob_n and_o hate_v esay_n while_o they_o have_v not_o do_v either_o good_a or_o evil_a as_o if_o the_o one_o have_v then_o be_v as_o good_a and_o lovely_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n as_o be_v the_o other_o who_o he_o have_v select_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n from_o the_o very_a loin_n of_o his_o natural_a parent_n rom._n 9.11_o 12_o 13._o 5._o it_o import_v that_o some_o of_o god_n very_a elect_n shall_v or_o may_v be_v damn_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostle_n judgement_n rom._n 3._o from_o 28._o to_o the_o end_n where_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v that_o he_o be_v persuade_v that_o neither_o death_n nor_o life_n nor_o angel_n nor_o principality_n nor_o power_n nor_o thing_n present_a nor_o thing_n to_o come_v nor_o height_n nor_o depth_n nor_o any_o other_o creature_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o separate_v such_o who_o be_v his_o elect_n from_o the_o love_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n our_o lord_n 6._o it_o import_v that_o some_o of_o old_a ordain_v unto_o condemnation_n and_o that_o be_v make_v purposely_o for_o the_o day_n of_o evil_a as_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n fit_v for_o destruction_n yea_o that_o like_a brute_n beast_n be_v make_v to_o be_v take_v and_o to_o be_v destroy_v may_v yet_o possible_o be_v save_v as_o if_o the_o purpose_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o be_v frustrate_a see_v prov._n 16.4_o 5._o job_n 21.30_o rom._n 9.15_o 16_o 17_o 28_o 19_o etc._n etc._n and_o jud._n v._n 4_o 5._o 7._o this_o doctrine_n import_v that_o none_o be_v god_n elect_n but_o such_o who_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n and_o so_o to_o faith_n and_o repentance_n though_o they_o will_v pretend_v the_o contrary_a as_o if_o all_o child_n die_v in_o infancy_n shall_v certain_o be_v save_v whereas_o the_o consequence_n of_o their_o doctrine_n conclude_v they_o all_o damn_a for_o they_o plain_o