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A43724 A continuation of The dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker wherein the truth of those things objected against them in the first part, are fully confirm'd : together with a further account of their perilous and pernitious errors concerning the person of Christ, His satisfaction, justification, sanctification, the ministry, and immediate motions are in this second part, cleerly and plainly represented out of the writings of some of their principal, and most approved leaders / published for the common information of such as either really are, or may be, in danger of being insnared and intangled by them by Thomas Hicks. Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing H1919; ESTC R21822 53,818 100

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