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baptism_n and_o therefore_o both_o the_o one_o &_o the_o other_o must_v be_v instruct_v when_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o in_o abraham_n who_o be_v adopt_v into_o the_o covenant_n in_o a_o perfect_a age_n knowledge_n instruction_n and_o faith_n go_v before_o the_o sacrament_n but_o in_o isaac_n bear_v in_o the_o covenant_n the_o sacrament_n go_v before_o knowledge_n because_o according_a to_o the_o promise_n he_o be_v repute_v the_o child_n of_o god_n from_o his_o mother_n womb_n so_o we_o do_v not_o confer_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o a_o jew_n or_o a_o pagan_a &_o we_o blame_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o commit_v this_o abuse_n prostitute_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o those_o that_o be_v not_o comprehend_v therein_o not_o stay_v till_o they_o may_v enter_v into_o it_o by_o knowledge_n &_o faith_n which_o be_v as_o great_a a_o mockery_n as_o to_o set_v a_o seal_n to_o a_o paper_n wherein_o there_o be_v nothing_o write_v the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr 4._o 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he_o now_o we_o
baptism_n do_v sin_n against_o the_o same_o article_n whence_o i_o thus_o conclude_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o donatist_n which_o be_v heretical_a can_v not_o be_v confute_v by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o and_o without_o the_o help_n of_o the_o apostolic_a tradition_n for_o to_o confute_v all_o heresy_n and_o by_o consequent_a it_o contain_v not_o alone_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n of_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o divinity_n and_o christian_a religion_n d_o tillenus_n his_o answer_n let_v we_o see_v if_o sainte_n augustine_n in_o those_o ten_o year_n that_o he_o handle_v his_o question_n against_o the_o donatist_n can_v not_o find_v any_o actual_a proof_n in_o the_o scripture_n upon_o this_o point_n as_o du_n perron_n say_v 7._o lib._n 1._o â—_o count_v 7._o i_o think_v he_o promise_v very_o certain_a proof_n when_o he_o say_v ne_o videar_fw-la humanis_fw-la argumentis_fw-la agere_fw-la ex_fw-la euangelio_fw-la profero_fw-la certa_fw-la documenta_fw-la &c_n &c_n lest_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o discourse_v with_o human_a reason_n 1_o lib._n 2._o the_o bap_n count_n don._n c._n 1_o i_o will_v allege_v sure_a proof_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n quid_fw-la sit_fw-la perniciosius_fw-la utrum_fw-la non_fw-la baptizari_fw-la a_fw-fr rebaptizari_fw-la iudicare_fw-la difficile_fw-la est_fw-la verumtamen_fw-la recurrens_fw-la ad_fw-la illam_fw-la stateram_fw-la dominicam_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la humano_fw-la sensu_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divina_fw-la rerum_fw-la momenta_fw-la pensantur_fw-la inveniode_n utraque_fw-la re_fw-la domini_fw-la sententiam_fw-la qui_fw-la lotus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la iterum_fw-la lavandi_fw-la &c_n &c_n it_o be_v a_o hard_a thing_n to_o judge_v whether_o be_v more_o dangerous_a not_o to_o be_v baptize_v or_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o yet_o have_v recourse_n unto_o that_o balance_n of_o the_o lord_n where_o not_o of_o human_a sense_n but_o of_o divine_a authority_n the_o vallews_n of_o thing_n be_v weigh_v i_o find_v of_o both_o matter_n the_o lord_n sentence_n he_o that_o be_v wash_v have_v no_o need_n to_o be_v wash_v again_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o another_o place_n have_v say_v that_o this_o custom_n come_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n not_o mean_v that_o it_o want_v his_o proof_n in_o scripture_n he_o add_v 2_o lic_n 5_o the_o cont_n don_n c._n 2_o contra_fw-la mandatum_fw-la dei_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la venientes_fw-la ab_fw-la hereticis_fw-la si_fw-la iam_fw-la illi_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la quia_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la ostenditur_fw-la sed_fw-la plane_n ostenditur_fw-la that_o it_o be_v against_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n that_o such_o as_o come_v from_o heretic_n shall_v be_v baptize_v if_o they_o have_v already_o receve_v there_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n because_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n it_o be_v not_o only_o show_v but_o plain_o show_v these_o place_n &_o other_o of_o this_o father_n do_v show_v the_o audaciousnes_n of_o du_fw-fr perron_n in_o his_o affirmation_n and_o his_o sincerity_n in_o his_o allegation_n as_o for_o the_o place_n he_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o same_o father_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o imperfection_n of_o the_o scriptu_fw-la e_fw-la concern_v this_o point_n he_o confound_v the_o question_n of_o act_n example_n or_o practice_n with_o the_o question_n of_o law_n or_o ordinance_n s_o augustine_n say_v in_o this_o matter_n there_o can_v be_v none_o example_n of_o scripture_n allege_v that_o be_v it_o can_v be_v find_v there_o that_o it_o be_v so_o practise_v &_o therefore_o he_o referrd_v the_o custon_n or_o practice_n hereof_o to_o apostolic_a tradition_n but_o that_o it_o ought_v so_o to_o be_v practise_v he_o affirm_v that_o not_o only_o the_o scripture_n show_v it_o but_o that_o it_o show_v it_o manifest_o whence_o i_o conclude_v against_o the_o bishop_n conclusion_n on_o this_o second_o point_n the_o doctrine_n that_o evident_o show_v what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o all_o matter_n concern_v faith_n &_o which_o confute_v the_o heresy_n that_o repugn_v the_o same_o be_v perfect_a but_o the_o scripture_n contain_v this_o doctrine_n therefore_o it_o be_v perfect_a the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v not_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n but_o also_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n by_o who_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o will_v earnest_o desire_v of_o he_o clear_a &_o direct_a answer_n to_o that_o place_n of_o augustine_n above_o allege_v out_o of_o his_o second_o book_n 9_o chapter_n de_fw-fr doctrina_fw-la christiana_n for_o in_o the_o verbal_a conference_n he_o will_v give_v no_o answer_n thereunto_o but_o on_o condition_n that_o i_o will_v protest_v to_o forsake_v the_o scripture_n and_o not_o to_o reason_v any_o 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flesh_n of_o it_o which_o he_o keep_v to_o give_v the_o righteous_a to_o eat_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v also_o for_o to_o teach_v we_o or_o to_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n why_o the_o romish_a tradition_n suffer_v the_o use_n of_o fish_n in_o lent_n forbid_v the_o use_n of_o flesh_n namely_o because_o god_n have_v bless_v the_o fish_n of_o the_o sea_n but_o he_o have_v curse_v the_o earth_n in_o the_o work_n of_o man_n as_o say_v durand_n that_o great_a rehearse_a of_o tradition_n add_v that_o those_o creature_n that_o have_v partly_o the_o form_n of_o a_o beast_n and_o partly_o the_o form_n of_o a_o fish_n as_o the_o oâ—ter_n one_o may_v eat_v the_o fish_n part_n that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o a_o creature_n half_o bless_v &_o half_a curse_a such_o mystery_n indeed_o will_v never_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o only_a literal_a text_n of_o moses_n if_o tradition_n do_v not_o lend_v help_n thereunto_o but_o the_o consequence_n that_o it_o draw_v from_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o 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