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A31661 A dialogue between a pædo-baptist and an anti-pædo-baptist containing the strength of arguments offered on both sides at the Portsmouth disputation, with the addition of a few more arguments then ready to be offered in vindication of infant baptism / by Samuel Chandler and William Leigh. Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William. 1699 (1699) Wing C1931; ESTC R35977 16,321 29

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