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to_o pay_v thus_o collect_v si_fw-la tardius_fw-la dare_v peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la quantò_fw-la pejus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la dedisse_fw-la if_o it_o be_v a_o fault_n to_o give_v slow_o a_o great_a it_o be_v not_o to_o give_v at_o all_o de_fw-fr temp._n serm_n 219._o from_o hence_o we_o infer_v thus_o lay_v man_n must_v pay_v tithe_n ergo_fw-la it_o belong_v not_o to_o they_o to_o take_v tithe_n as_o jerome_n well_o show_v speak_v of_o the_o difference_n of_o lay_v man_n and_o clergyman_n clerici_fw-la pascunt_fw-la oves_fw-la ego_fw-la pascor_fw-la etc._n etc._n clergy_n man_n feed_v their_o sheep_n i_o be_o feed_v they_o live_v of_o the_o altar_n but_o the_o axe_n be_v lay_v to_o i_o as_o a_o fruitless_a tree_n if_o i_o bring_v heliodorum_n hieron_n ad_fw-la heliodorum_n not_o to_o the_o altar_n 5._o i_o urge_v ambrose_n reason_n tanta_fw-la merces_fw-la esse_fw-la debet_fw-la evangelizantis_fw-la regnum_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n such_o shall_v be_v the_o reward_n of_o he_o 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challenge_v all_o thing_n he_o only_o invade_v other_o man_n right_a he_o only_o kill_v all_o de_fw-fr 7._o ordinibus_fw-la by_o this_o mean_n while_o the_o minister_n be_v deprive_v of_o his_o maintenance_n many_o man_n soul_n perish_v for_o want_n of_o teach_v the_o same_o reason_n be_v allege_v in_o the_o canon_n that_o for_o want_v of_o sufficient_a maintenance_n saepe_fw-la contingit_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la inveniantur_fw-la idoneae_fw-la personae_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o often_o fall_v out_o that_o fit_a person_n be_v not_o find_v which_o will_v take_v such_o church_n and_o so_o often_o time_n they_o be_v bestow_v upon_o such_o as_o be_v not_o fit_a whereby_o soul_n be_v endanger_v greg._n lib._n 3._o tit_v 4._o c._n 1_o decr._n 8._o the_o same_o canon_n allow_v not_o religious_a man_n themselves_o to_o occupy_v to_o their_o own_o use_n the_o tithe_n of_o the_o church_n sufficient_a maintenance_n not_o be_v leave_v for_o the_o minister_n much_o less_o ought_v other_o to_o do_v it_o in_o their_o right_n clemens_n 3_o fuit_fw-la olim_fw-la per_fw-la sedem_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la providè_fw-la constitutum_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o have_v be_v in_o time_n past_o provident_o decree_v by_o the_o seat_n apostolic_a that_o the_o diocesan_n shall_v admit_v none_o to_o any_o church_n present_v by_o religious_a person_n unless_o in_o their_o presence_n so_o much_o of_o the_o revenue_n of_o the_o church_n be_v assign_v whereout_o they_o may_v have_v sufficient_a maintenance_n decr._n greg._n l._n 3._o tit_n 4._o c._n 1._o yea_o ecclesiastical_a person_n be_v bind_v for_o their_o land_n to_o pay_v tithe_n much_o more_o not_o to_o take_v away_o tithe_n where_o otherwise_o the_o maintenance_n be_v scant_o cabilonens_fw-la sub_fw-la carolo_n c._n 19_o decrevit_fw-la sacer_fw-la iste_fw-la conventus_fw-la ut_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o abbates_n de_fw-fr agris_fw-la &_o vineis_fw-la decimas_fw-la ecclesiââ_n dare_v faciant_fw-la if_o then_o clergy_n man_n themselves_o be_v not_o to_o possess_v tithe_n where_o sufficient_a be_v not_o remain_v for_o the_o minister_n much_o less_o ought_v lay_v man_n in_o their_o name_n to_o do_v it_o 9_o by_o the_o law_n both_o imperial_a and_o canonical_a it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o alienate_v by_o any_o mean_v the_o possession_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n cod._n lib._n 1._o tit_n 5._o leg_n 14._o leo_fw-la antbenius_n jubemus_fw-la nulli_fw-la posthac_fw-la archiepiscopo_fw-la esse_fw-la facultatem_fw-la praedia_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o will_v that_o from_o henceforth_o no_o archbishop_n have_v power_n by_o any_o kind_n of_o alienation_n to_o convey_v to_o any_o person_n whatsoever_o their_o manner_n immovables_n civil_a revenue_n let_v they_o keep_v they_o inviolable_o without_o any_o mutation_n no_o though_o all_o the_o clergy_n man_n shall_v consent_v with_o the_o religious_a bishop_n in_o the_o alienation_n of_o such_o possession_n sicut_fw-la ipsa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la perpetua_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n ita_fw-la ejus_fw-la patrimonium_fw-la jugiter_fw-la servetur_fw-la illaesum_fw-la as_o the_o church_n be_v perpetual_a so_o shall_v the_o patrimony_n thereof_o remain_v untouched_a he_o that_o buy_v such_o shall_v loose_v that_o he_o pay_v the_o writer_n shall_v be_v banish_v the_o judge_n shall_v forfeit_v his_o good_n and_o his_o place_n hereunto_o also_o the_o canon_n agree_v definivit_fw-la synodus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o synod_n have_v deree_v that_o no_o bishop_n shall_v sell_v the_o salary_n or_o possession_n of_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v depose_v as_o a_o transgressor_n of_o the_o divine_a law_n octau._n synod_n general_a c._n 15._o non_fw-la licet_fw-la papae_fw-la etc._n etc._n 10._o caus_n 12._o q._n 2._o c._n 10._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o the_o pope_n to_o alienate_v any_o man_n nor_o of_o the_o church_n for_o any_o necessity_n nec_fw-la in_o usum_fw-la fractuarium_fw-la dare_v etc._n etc._n nor_o to_o give_v the_o land_n in_o fee_n farm_n but_o it_o be_v much_o more_o to_o alienate_v tithe_n from_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a inheritance_n of_o the_o church_n than_o other_o temporal_a law_n
excusationem_fw-la the_o grant_n or_o dispensation_n make_v by_o the_o archbishop_n to_o hold_v more_o church_n a_o frivolous_a excuse_n greg._n lib._n 3._o tit_n 5._o c._n 6._o ad_fw-la mandatum_fw-la papae_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o pope_n one_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o provide_v for_o he_o that_o have_v a_o benefice_n already_o who_o can_v be_v provide_v for_o without_o scandal_n extrav_fw-mi joan._n tit_n 3._o c._n 1._o obtinentes_fw-la plura_fw-la beneficis_fw-la curam_fw-la animarum_fw-la habentia_fw-la ex_fw-la dispensatione_fw-la virtute_fw-la illius_fw-la non_fw-la poterunt_fw-la retinere_fw-la nisi_fw-la unum_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o a_o dispensation_n one_o can_v hold_v but_o one_o benefice_n this_o canon_n be_v repeat_v verbatim_o extrav_n come_v lib._n 3._o tit_n 2._o c._n 4._o and_o it_o be_v the_o last_o canon_n in_o force_n of_o this_o matter_n 5._o obj._n some_o that_o will_v seem_v to_o make_v more_o conscience_n than_o other_o do_v think_v 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debet_fw-la habere_fw-la plures_fw-la vicarias_fw-la none_n ought_v to_o have_v diverse_a vicarage_n decr._n greg._n lib_n 3._o tit_v 5._o c._n 5._o the_o canon_n cale_v multitudinem_fw-la praebendarum_fw-la canonibus_fw-la inimican_n the_o multitude_n of_o prebend_n a_o enemy_n to_o the_o canon_n thus_o by_o the_o canon_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o hold_v many_o monastery_n college_n archdeaconry_n prebend_n only_o we_o find_v liberty_n to_o hold_v a_o church_n with_o cure_n and_o a_o prebend_v and_o that_o without_o dispensation_n habere_fw-la personatum_fw-la cum_fw-la cura_fw-la &_o prebendam_fw-la etc._n etc._n dispensatio_fw-la necessaria_fw-la non_fw-la existit_fw-la sext._n decr_n lib._n 3._o tit_n 4._o c._n 6._o yea_o by_o the_o imperial_a law_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o one_o to_o hold_v two_o civil_a office_n nec_fw-la sit_fw-la concessum_fw-la cviquam_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v it_o be_v grant_v to_o none_o to_o have_v two_o magistracy_n and_o to_o exercise_v judgement_n in_o both_o for_o it_o be_v not_o like_o that_o one_o man_n shall_v suffice_v for_o two_o necessary_a duty_n for_o when_o he_o be_v present_a in_o one_o place_n he_o must_v needs_o be_v want_v in_o the_o other_o and_o so_o be_v whole_o fit_a for_o neither_o but_o let_v he_o be_v content_a with_o one_o magistrate_n place_n leave_v the_o other_o cod._n lib._n 1._o tit_n 52._o leg_n 13._o justinian_n thus_o by_o this_o imperial_a constitution_n to_o hold_v two_o chancellor_n or_o register_n place_n to_o be_v a_o judge_n in_o two_o court_n be_v think_v to_o be_v inconvenient_a 6._o obj._n they_o desire_v to_o limit_v the_o king_n favour_n see_v none_o except_o he_o be_v the_o king_n chaplayne_n may_v hold_v three_o benefice_n with_o cure_n etc._n etc._n p._n 18._o answ_n we_o take_v not_o upon_o we_o to_o limit_v the_o king_n favour_n but_o humble_o beseech_v his_o excellent_a majesty_n that_o it_o will_v please_v he_o to_o limit_v his_o own_o princely_a favour_n that_o non-residents_a and_o pluralist_n to_o the_o hurt_n of_o christ_n church_n and_o damage_n of_o many_o christian_a soul_n use_v no_o long_o that_o cloak_n of_o their_o covetousness_n 7._o object_n it_o be_v not_o know_v that_o there_o be_v five_o in_o all_o the_o land_n that_o hold_v three_o such_o benefice_n answ_n if_o there_o be_v but_o one_o to_o be_v find_v that_o hold_v three_o such_o benefice_n it_o be_v too_o much_o 2._o yet_o all_o the_o king_n chaplayne_v if_o they_o be_v a_o hundred_o may_v enjoy_v the_o same_o favour_n which_o who_o see_v not_o how_o inconvenient_a it_o will_v be_v and_o it_o be_v against_o the_o law_n of_o favour_n quod_fw-la alieni_fw-la gratiose_fw-la conceditur_fw-la trahi_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la alijs_fw-la in_o exemplum_fw-la that_o which_o be_v grant_v of_o favour_n to_o one_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o measure_n or_o example_n for_o other_o 3._o our_o brethren_n all_o this_o while_o say_v nothing_o of_o double_a benefice_a man_n which_o be_v almost_o sans_o number_a the_o confuter_n shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v muster_v they_o as_o they_o have_v do_v the_o other_o but_o whether_o they_o be_v double_a or_o treble_a benefice_a man_n they_o may_v all_o be_v range_v in_o the_o rank_n of_o pluralist_n according_a to_o that_o rule_n in_o the_o law_n pluralis_fw-la locatio_fw-la duorum_fw-la nomine_fw-la contenta_fw-la est_fw-la two_o make_v a_o plural_a number_n 8._o obj._n what_o good_a deal_n be_v this_o etc._n etc._n to_o make_v the_o world_n believe_v it_o be_v acommon_a fault_n etc._n etc._n answ_n we_o take_v our_o brethren_n confession_n that_o it_o be_v a_o fault_n though_o as_o they_o say_v no_o common_a fault_n to_o have_v three_o benefice_n and_o we_o pray_v you_o why_o be_v it_o not_o also_o a_o fault_n to_o have_v two_o it_o be_v a_o fault_n to_o have_v three_o because_o it_o argue_v a_o covetous_a mind_n and_o such_o a_o one_o take_v upon_o he_o more_o than_o he_o can_v discharge_v both_o these_o fault_n concur_v in_o accept_v of_o two_o benefice_n where_o one_o for_o maintenance_n may_v be_v sufficient_a and_o two_o be_v more_o than_o a_o man_n can_v discharge_v wherefore_o according_a to_o another_o rule_n in_o the_o law_n cum_fw-la quid_fw-la prohibetur_fw-la prohibentur_fw-la omne_fw-la quae_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la ex_fw-la illo_fw-la 84._o reg._n juris_fw-la 84._o when_o any_o thing_n be_v forbid_v all_o thing_n be_v forbid_v which_o follow_v it_o wherefore_o o_o most_o noble_a king_n 1_o seeing_z a_o good_a shepherd_n ought_v to_o be_v conversant_a conclusion_n the_o conclusion_n among_o his_o flock_n 2._o not_o give_v to_o lucre_n 3._o must_v abide_v wherein_o he_o be_v call_v 4._o be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o one_o charge_n much_o less_o for_o two_o or_o three_o 5_o seeing_z he_o that_o work_v not_o in_o his_o charge_n must_v not_o eat_v 6._o and_o by_o plurality_n hireling_n be_v maintain_v in_o the_o church_n 7._o by_o this_o mean_v some_o man_n want_v and_o other_o overflow_n 8._o and_o such_o pastor_n can_v not_o be_v example_n to_o their_o flock_n 9_o neither_o be_v it_o fit_v that_o one_o member_n shall_v have_v the_o office_n of_o diverse_a 10._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o former_a time_n condemn_v plurality_n see_v nothing_o can_v be_v object_v to_o the_o contrary_a of_o any_o moment_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o have_v not_o only_o two_o city_n but_o two_o town_n 2._o that_o neither_o the_o smallness_n of_o the_o live_n 3._o nor_o largeness_n of_o the_o parish_n be_v a_o sufficient_a excuse_n 4._o nor_o yet_o to_o hold_v they_o by_o dispensation_n 5._o nor_o yet_o to_o have_v many_o dignity_n without_o cure_n 6._o or_o to_o hold_v they_o by_o special_a favour_n we_o trust_v your_o majesty_n in_o good_a time_n will_v see_v this_o abuse_n reform_v which_o be_v sometime_o odious_a even_o among_o the_o romanist_n quis_fw-la per_fw-la deum_fw-la immortalem_fw-la miserabilior_fw-la aspectus_fw-la esse_fw-la 8._o suggest_v cardin_n abus_fw-la 8._o potest_fw-la christianum_fw-la orbem_fw-la peragranti_fw-la quà m_fw-la haec_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la solicitudo_fw-la o_o good_a god_n what_o more_o wretched_a sight_n can_v there_o be_v in_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n than_o this_o desolation_n of_o church_n artic_a 3._o of_o impropriation_n reason_n and_o argument_n show_v that_o it_o be_v neither_o lawful_a nor_o convenient_a for_o ecclesiastical_a corporation_n to_o demise_n their_o impropriate_a tithe_n to_o lay_v farmer_n 1._o arg._n tithe_n shall_v be_v use_v according_a to_o the_o first_o institution_n but_o then_o they_o be_v permit_v only_o to_o the_o priest_n ergo_fw-la they_o shall_v now_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n thus_o damasus_n ground_v his_o reaso_n upon_o the_o equity_n of_o moses_n law_n which_o prohibit_v any_o stranger_n save_v only_a aaron_n and_o his_o son_n to_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n exod._n 29._o 33._o whereupon_o he_o write_v thus_o oblationes_fw-la quae_fw-la intra_fw-la sanctam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la offeruntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n oblation_n offer_v in_o the_o church_n shall_v by_o no_o
time_n christian_n begin_v to_o cross_n themselves_o with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n but_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o creep_v into_o the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o learned_a writer_n have_v well_o observe_v for_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr corona_n militis_fw-la where_o he_o mention_v other_o ceremony_n that_o be_v use_v in_o baptism_n as_o milk_n honey_n etc._n etc._n he_o make_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_n entreat_n profess_o of_o this_o sacrament_n bapt_a tert._n the_o bapt_a and_o the_o ceremony_n of_o it_o he_o have_v not_o one_o tittle_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o chrysostom_n time_n deus_fw-la chrys_n hom_n quod_fw-la christus_fw-la sit_fw-la deus_fw-la the_o cross_n be_v creep_v further_o as_o all_o superstition_n will_v wind_v up_o like_o ivy_n in_o sacra_fw-la mensa_fw-la etc._n etc._n crux_fw-la fulget_fw-la in_o the_o holy_a supper_n the_o cross_n appear_v in_o his_o glory_n but_o yet_o 10._o aug_n lib._n 1._o confess_v c._n 11._o &_o the_o 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oil_n salt_n and_o spittle_n etc._n etc._n 3._o lumb_n 4._o do_v 3._o for_o the_o papist_n make_v but_o ceremony_n of_o those_o and_o therefore_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v some_o ceremony_n may_v be_v use_v therefore_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n may_v be_v use_v it_o be_v evident_a then_o that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o choice_n well_o let_v we_o see_v what_o must_v be_v the_o rule_n the_o ceremony_n that_o must_v be_v use_v must_v have_v three_o condition_n 1._o they_o must_v be_v such_o as_o serve_v for_o comeliness_n and_o order_n sake_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v let_v all_o thing_n he_o do_v comely_a and_o in_o order_n 40._o 1._o cor._n 14._o 40._o but_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n be_v not_o such_o for_o if_o it_o make_v a_o decorum_n in_o the_o sacrament_n than_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o geneva_n scotland_n france_n helvetia_n belgia_n poland_n etc._n etc._n that_o use_v it_o not_o must_v commit_v a_o indecorum_n which_o be_v absurd_a to_o affirm_v thus_o peter_n 9_o pet._n mart._n class_n 4._o c._n 9_o martyr_n dispute_v against_o the_o schoolman_n who_o affirm_v that_o the_o word_n and_o water_n 9_o pet._n mar._n clas_o 4._o c._n 9_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o baptism_n but_o the_o rest_n that_o be_v add_v oil_n etc._n etc._n do_v facere_fw-la ad_fw-la honestatem_fw-la &_o decorum_n sacramenti_fw-la make_v to_o the_o hone_n and_o adorn_v of_o the_o sacrament_n admit_v this_o say_v he_o than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o john_n and_o christ_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v baptize_v indecent_o disordered_o etc._n etc._n quia_fw-la eorum_fw-la baptismus_fw-la istis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la carebat_fw-la because_o their_o baptism_n want_v all_o these_o thing_n 2._o the_o ceremony_n must_v not_o be_v scandalous_a and_o offensive_a especial_o to_o our_o 32._o 1._o cor._n 10._o 32._o brethren_n and_o to_o god_n church_n but_o the_o cross_n be_v offensive_a and_o scandalous_a both_o to_o other_o church_n that_o account_v it_o a_o profanation_n 169._o szedig_n loc_fw-la comm_n p._n 169._o of_o baptism_n and_o to_o godly_a and_o good_a man_n at_o home_n among_o ourselves_o yea_o m._n calfeild_n say_v against_o the_o papist_n that_o to_o cross_v with_o the_o finger_n be_v both_o a_o idle_a ceceremony_n and_o unlawful_a to_o calf_n in_o answ_o cit_fw-la pet._n mart._n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la to_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o cross_n art_n 2_o p._n 49._o 3._o they_o must_v not_o be_v idle_a and_o needless_a ceremony_n but_o to_o such_o only_a as_o be_v needful_a see_v the_o whole_a senate_n of_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v in_o their_o council_n it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o we_o to_o 28._o act._n 15._o 28._o lay_v no_o burden_n upon_o you_o praeter_fw-la necessaria_fw-la haec_fw-la beside_o these_o necessary_a thing_n but_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n be_v not_o necessary_a either_o ad_fw-la esse_fw-la to_o the_o be_v or_o bene_fw-la esse_fw-la to_o the_o well_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n not_o add_v esse_fw-la the_o very_a papist_n confess_v nor_o ad_fw-la bene_fw-la esse_fw-la because_o the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v well_o enough_o supra_fw-la lumb_n ut_fw-la supra_fw-la without_o it_o as_o the_o very_a book_n confess_v in_o private_a baptism_n where_o no_o cross_n be_v use_v yet_o the_o minister_n be_v prescribe_v to_o say_v i_o certify_v you_o that_o you_o have_v do_v well_o and_o according_a bapt_v common_a book_n cap._n of_o private_a bapt_v to_o due_a order_n etc._n etc._n though_o they_o have_v not_o cross_v wherefore_o most_o noble_a king_n 1._o see_v the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n be_v a_o depart_n from_o the_o plain_a &_o simple_a institution_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n 2._o see_v it_o be_v thrust_v out_o of_o the_o other_o sacrament_n to_o which_o it_o have_v as_o good_a right_n as_o to_o this_o 3._o see_v it_o be_v idolatrous_o abuse_v in_o popery_n &_o have_v no_o necessary_a use_n now_o 4._o see_v it_o encroach_v upon_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o the_o sacr._n 5._o see_v it_o be_v but_o a_o late_a device_n hatch_v by_o the_o pope_n 6._o see_v it_o be_v not_o a_o ceremony_n pertain_v to_o the_o decency_n of_o a_o sacrament_n 7_o see_v it_o be_v scandalous_a and_o offensive_a to_o many_o good_a christian_n both_o preacher_n and_o people_n last_o see_v it_o be_v a_o idle_a and_o needless_a ceremony_n and_o so_o not_o warrant_v either_o in_o genere_fw-la or_o in_fw-la specie_fw-la either_o in_o general_a or_o in_o special_a term_n as_o all_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n must_v be_v we_o most_o humble_o beseech_v 32._o deu._n 4._o 2._o &_o 5._o 32._o your_o highness_n in_o the_o love_n you_o have_v to_o preserve_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n in_o such_o purity_n as_o he_o have_v leave_v they_o that_o you_o will_v do_v as_o good_a k._n ezekiah_n do_v who_o cleanse_v the_o house_n of_o god_n and_o carry_v 16_o 2._o chr._n 29._o 16_o out_o the_o filth_n of_o it_o into_o the_o brook_n cedron_n 2_o against_o interrogatories_n in_o baptism_n 1._o to_o utter_v a_o untrueth_n in_o such_o a_o place_n &_o in_o such_o a_o presence_n &_o in_o such_o a_o action_n so_o serious_a can_v be_v but_o a_o great_a and_o grievous_a sin_n according_a to_o that_o thou_o have_v not_o lie_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n but_o to_o say_v as_o the_o book_n prescribe_v in_o the_o bapt._n act._n 5._o 4._o com._n book_n cap._n of_o bapt._n name_n and_o behalf_n of_o the_o infant_n that_o it_o believe_v all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n that_o it_o desire_n to_o be_v baptize_v into_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o great_a untrueth_n because_o the_o little_a infant_n neither_o believe_v nor_o desire_v any_o such_o like_a thing_n nay_o as_o augustine_n say_v 7._o aug._n epist_n cap._n 7._o quando_fw-la ijs_fw-la christiana_n gratia_fw-la subvenitur_fw-la vocibus_fw-la quibus_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o motibus_fw-la reluctantur_fw-la they_o show_v themselves_o unwilling_a to_o be_v baptize_v therefore_o to_o affirm_v this_o it_o can_v be_v but_o a_o great_a and_o grievous_a sin_n 2._o that_o which_o give_v strength_n to_o error_n and_o heresy_n in_o christian_a wisdom_n ought_v to_o be_v avoid_v according_a to_o that_o non_fw-la pones_fw-la scandalum_fw-la coram_fw-la caeco_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o put_v a_o stumbling-block_n before_o the_o blind_a 14._o leu._n 19_o 14._o but_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o child_n believe_v all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n be_v to_o give_v strength_n to_o their_o error_n that_o think_v 57_o rom._n 10._o 17_o aug._n ep_v 57_o child_n have_v faith_n which_o indeed_o they_o have_v not_o as_o both_o the_o scripture_n show_v and_o the_o father_n therefore_o in_o christian_a discretion_n and_o wisdom_n this_o occasion_n of_o error_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v 3._o if_o the_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v into_o
13._o abraham_n circumcise_v his_o servant_n as_o well_o as_o his_o son_n gen._n 17._o 13._o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o of_o some_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o it_o than_o it_o suffice_v the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a because_o as_o the_o covenant_n run_v so_o run_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o the_o father_n in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n not_o with_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o child_n as_o appeareth_z by_o that_o i_o will_v be_v thy_o 7._o gen._n 17._o 7._o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o the_o father_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n because_o as_o the_o scripture_n show_v it_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o bring_v the_o child_n within_o the_o compass_n 14_o 1._o cor._n 7._o 14_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n ob._n the_o interrogatory_n be_v most_o ancient_a answ_n antiquity_n without_o verity_n be_v but_o vetustas_fw-la erroris_fw-la oldness_n of_o error_n as_o cyprian_n 3._o cypri_n ad_fw-la pomp._n &_o lib._n 2._o ep_n 3._o speak_v and_o again_o non_fw-la debemus_fw-la attendere_fw-la quid_fw-la aliquis_fw-la ante_fw-la nos_fw-la faciendum_fw-la putaverit_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la qui_fw-la ante_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la prio_fw-la fecerit_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la hominis_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la sequi_fw-la oportet_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la veritatem_fw-la we_o be_v not_o to_o regard_v what_o any_o one_o have_v think_v good_a to_o do_v before_o we_o but_o what_o christ_n do_v first_o before_o all_o neither_o shall_v we_o follow_v the_o custom_n of_o man_n but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n oil_n in_o baptism_n be_v ancient_a as_o appear_v by_o tertullian_n and_o cyprian_n so_o be_v exufflation_n use_v of_o the_o church_n as_o augustine_n speak_v joh._n tert._n de_fw-fr resus_fw-la carn_n cyp._n lib._n 1._o epist_n 22._o ang._n lib_n 2._o the_o imp_n &_o corrup_n c._n 18._o ang._n lib_n 1_o de_fw-la pecat_fw-la &_o remis_fw-la c._n 24._o mald._n in_o joh._n toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusa_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la ubique_fw-la omnes_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la infantuli_fw-la exufflantur_fw-la and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o good_a cause_n have_v refuse_v both_o in_o augustine_n time_n and_o long_o before_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v give_v to_o infant_n maldonatus_n the_o jesuite_n confess_v it_o be_v so_o and_o that_o with_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n that_o child_n perish_v that_o die_v without_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o antiquity_n of_o this_o can_v make_v it_o good_a as_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o paul_n ergo_fw-la every_o thing_n that_o be_v ancient_a be_v not_o 28._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 28._o therefore_o by_o and_o by_o currant_n 2._o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o use_n of_o interrogatory_n be_v most_o ancient_a we_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o interrogatory_n minister_v to_o 4._o act._n 8._o 37._o tert._n de_fw-fr spec_fw-la c._n 4._o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o discretion_n as_o to_o the_o eunuch_n si_fw-mi credis_fw-la etc._n etc._n credo_fw-la if_o thou_o believe_v etc._n etc._n i_o believe_v and_o tertul._n say_v aquam_fw-la ingressi_fw-la christianam_fw-la fidem_fw-la in_o suae_fw-la legis_fw-la verba_fw-la profitemur_fw-la renunciasse_n nos_fw-la diabolo_fw-la ore_fw-la nostro_fw-la contestamur_fw-la be_v to_o be_v baptize_v we_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n we_o solemn_o profess_v with_o our_o mouth_n that_o we_o have_v renounce_v the_o devil_n but_o of_o any_o interrogatory_n that_o be_v minister_v to_o infant_n we_o read_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o book_n of_o god_n 3_o though_o the_o father_n mention_n this_o use_n yet_o that_o many_o dislike_v it_o even_o in_o their_o time_n appear_v by_o tertullian_n himself_o bape_n lib._n the_o bape_n who_o wish_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v keep_v till_o they_o can_v make_v their_o own_o answer_n lest_o we_o promise_v that_o for_o they_o which_o they_o will_v never_o perform_v and_o boniface_n the_o bb._n move_v the_o doubt_n to_o aug._n &_o argue_v against_o it_o when_o the_o 23._o aug._n epist_n 23._o witness_n say_v the_o infant_n believe_v dicunt_fw-la eos_fw-la facere_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o that_o age_n be_v not_o able_a to_o think_v 2._o if_o they_o do_v believe_v yet_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o we_o 3._o if_o a_o man_n shall_v by_o and_o by_o ask_v the_o witness_n of_o the_o child_n whether_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o thief_n or_o no_o they_o will_v answer_v they_o can_v tell_v and_o if_o they_o can_v tell_v this_o how_o can_v they_o tell_v that_o it_o will_v believe_v augustine_n a_o man_n so_o learned_a that_o he_o can_v have_v help_v the_o cause_n if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o help_n in_o it_o resolve_v the_o matter_n very_o weak_o habet_fw-la fidem_fw-la i_o sacramentum_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o infant_n have_v faith_n baptis_fw-la com._n book_n c._n of_o baptis_fw-la i_o have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o by_o our_o book_n the_o witness_n be_v cause_v to_o say_v it_o do_v believe_v and_o it_o have_v faith_n before_o it_o have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n i_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n pour_v upon_o it_o therefore_o bucer_n one_o of_o their_o own_o author_n better_a resolve_v the_o point_n show_v that_o it_o be_v 5._o buc._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la reg_fw-la che_fw-it c._n 5._o fit_a for_o those_o that_o be_v of_o year_n and_o discretion_n to_o make_v promise_n of_o obedience_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o they_o be_v baptize_v but_o that_o child_n do_v it_o after_o they_o have_v be_v catechise_v and_o teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o szegedinus_n si_fw-la baptizandus_fw-la 167._o szeg._n de_fw-fr bap_n p._n 167._o est_fw-la infans_fw-la nec_fw-la fides_fw-la nec_fw-la fidei_fw-la confessio_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la poscatur_fw-la absurdum_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la id_fw-la requirere_fw-la ab_fw-la infante_fw-la quodnec_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la requirit_fw-la nec_fw-la ille_fw-la per_fw-la aetatem_fw-la habere_fw-la nec_fw-la exprimere_fw-la potest_fw-la 48._o bez._n in_o conf_n c._n 4._o 48._o of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v beza_n wherefore_o most_o noble_a king_n 1._o see_v the_o interrogatory_n give_v man_n occasion_n to_o utter_v a_o untrueth_n before_o the_o lord_n 2._o see_v they_o give_v strength_n to_o their_o error_n that_o think_v child_n have_v faith_n which_o indeed_o they_o have_v not_o 3._o see_v the_o infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v into_o his_o own_o faith_n but_o into_o the_o faith_n of_o his_o father_n or_o susceptor_n 4._o see_v it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o reasonable_a man_n they_o can_v do_v 5._o see_v the_o first_o and_o best_a church_n know_v they_o not_o last_o see_v those_o church_n that_o receive_v they_o yet_o have_v many_o learned_a and_o good_a man_n that_o upon_o good_a ground_n dislike_v they_o we_o trust_v your_o majesty_n will_v establish_v that_o which_o shall_v be_v more_o please_v to_o god_n and_o better_a like_n to_o your_o best_a affect_a subject_n 3._o against_o confirmation_n 1._o where_o the_o gift_n be_v cease_v there_o the_o ceremony_n and_o the_o sign_n must_v cease_v also_o as_o anoint_v of_o the_o sick_a use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v now_o cease_v because_o the_o miraculous_a gift_n of_o heal_v be_v cease_v 14._o jam._n 1._o 14._o but_o the_o gift_n of_o give_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v now_o cease_v as_o augustine_n say_v neque_fw-la enim_fw-la temporalibus_fw-la &_o sensibilibus_fw-la miraculis_fw-la per_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la 16._o aug._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr bapt._n c._n 16._o modo_fw-la datur_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la sicut_fw-la antea_fw-la dabatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o see_v the_o miraculous_a gift_n be_v cease_v this_o kind_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o it_o must_v cease_v also_o this_o be_v chemnitions_n reason_n against_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n and_o so_o cross_n chemnic_n in_o exam_n fid_fw-we de_fw-fr confu_n m._n calf_n art_n 4._o treat_v of_o the_o cross_n likewise_o that_o learned_a man_n m._n calfield_n say_v lay_v on_o of_o hand_n serve_v to_o good_a use_n then_o when_o it_o please_v god_n at_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o apostle_n prayer_n to_o confer_v the_o visible_a grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n but_o now_o there_o be_v no_o such_o ministry_n in_o the_o church_n now_o that_o miracle_n be_v cease_v to_o what_o end_n shall_v we_o have_v this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n the_o sign_n without_o the_o