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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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absurd_a to_o affirm_v thus_o peter_n 9_o pet._n mart._n class_n 4._o c._n 9_o martyr_n dispute_v against_o the_o schoolman_n who_o affirm_v that_o the_o word_n and_o water_n 9_o pet._n mar._n clas_o 4._o c._n 9_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o baptism_n but_o the_o rest_n that_o be_v add_v oil_n etc._n etc._n do_v facere_fw-la ad_fw-la honestatem_fw-la &_o decorum_n sacramenti_fw-la make_v to_o the_o hone_n and_o adorn_v of_o the_o sacrament_n admit_v this_o say_v he_o than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o john_n and_o christ_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v baptize_v indecent_o disordered_o etc._n etc._n quia_fw-la eorum_fw-la baptismus_fw-la istis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la carebat_fw-la because_o their_o baptism_n want_v all_o these_o thing_n 2._o the_o ceremony_n must_v not_o be_v scandalous_a and_o offensive_a especial_o to_o our_o 32._o 1._o cor._n 10._o 32._o brethren_n and_o to_o god_n church_n but_o the_o cross_n be_v offensive_a and_o scandalous_a both_o to_o other_o church_n 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cedron_n 2_o against_o interrogatories_n in_o baptism_n 1._o to_o utter_v a_o untrueth_n in_o such_o a_o place_n &_o in_o such_o a_o presence_n &_o in_o such_o a_o action_n so_o serious_a can_v be_v but_o a_o great_a and_o grievous_a sin_n according_a to_o that_o thou_o have_v not_o lie_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n but_o to_o say_v as_o the_o book_n prescribe_v in_o the_o bapt._n act._n 5._o 4._o com._n book_n cap._n of_o bapt._n name_n and_o behalf_n of_o the_o infant_n that_o it_o believe_v all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n that_o it_o desire_n to_o be_v baptize_v into_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o great_a untrueth_n because_o the_o little_a infant_n neither_o believe_v nor_o desire_v any_o such_o like_a thing_n nay_o as_o augustine_n say_v 7._o aug._n epist_n cap._n 7._o quando_fw-la ijs_fw-la christiana_n gratia_fw-la subvenitur_fw-la vocibus_fw-la quibus_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o motibus_fw-la reluctantur_fw-la they_o show_v themselves_o unwilling_a to_o be_v 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13._o abraham_n circumcise_v his_o servant_n as_o well_o as_o his_o son_n gen._n 17._o 13._o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o of_o some_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o it_o than_o it_o suffice_v the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a because_o as_o the_o covenant_n run_v so_o run_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o the_o father_n in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n not_o with_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o child_n as_o appeareth_z by_o that_o i_o will_v be_v thy_o 7._o gen._n 17._o 7._o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o the_o father_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n because_o as_o the_o scripture_n show_v it_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o 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