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A62861 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The second part of the full review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism in which the invalidity of arguments ... is shewed ... / by John Tombs ... Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1654 (1654) Wing T1799; ESTC R33835 285,363 340

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find_v a_o place_n where_o he_o more_o full_o express_v himself_o than_o in_o his_o plain_a scrip_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 336._o of_o the_o first_o edition_n whereas_o say_v he_o some_o stick_n at_o it_o that_o i_o make_v the_o condition_n of_o the_o infant_n church-membership_a and_o justification_n to_o be_v whole_o without_o he_o in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n i_o answer_v they_o 1._o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o all_o the_o scripture_n that_o god_n put_v a_o very_a great_a difference_n between_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o other_o man_n which_o i_o grant_v but_o withal_o that_o this_o be_v true_a only_a of_o the_o sincere_o faithful_a and_o not_o only_o inexternal_a profession_n and_o yet_o not_o so_o as_o to_o count_v any_o a_o visible_a church-member_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n for_o the_o parent_n faith_n 2._o say_v he_o that_o he_o make_v such_o promise_n to_o they_o and_o give_v they_o such_o privilege_n as_o i_o have_v express_v in_o this_o 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elsewhere_o but_o he_o add_v and_o do_v not_o this_o plain_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o parent_n faith_n be_v the_o condition_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v a_o believer_n the_o child_n be_v enter_v the_o covenant_n the_o father_n enter_v it_o for_o he_o and_o his_o deut._n 29._o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o believer_n the_o child_n be_v leave_v out_o and_o what_o other_o condition_n can_v be_v imagine_v answ._n if_o the_o scripture_n have_v require_v no_o inherent_a condition_n in_o the_o infant_n yet_o it_o have_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o parent_n faith_n be_v the_o condition_n of_o the_o infant_n church-membership_a and_o justification_n for_o there_o be_v other_o way_n to_o wit_n their_o election_n christ_n death_n for_o they_o which_o be_v a_o vouch_a as_o sufficient_a to_o their_o justification_n without_o the_o consideration_n either_o of_o any_o inherent_a condition_n in_o the_o infant_n or_o the_o parent_n faith_n nor_o be_v it_o true_a that_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v a_o 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narration_n of_o moses_n his_o renew_v the_o covenant_n with_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o land_n of_o moab_n beside_o the_o covenant_n which_o he_o make_v with_o they_o in_o horeb._n it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v say_v v._n 10_o 11_o 12_o 13._o they_o stand_v all_o before_o the_o lord_n the_o commandor_n and_o the_o man_n than_o the_o little_a one_o wife_n stranger_n hewer_n of_o wood_n drawer_n of_o water_n that_o they_o may_v enter_v into_o covenant_n but_o that_o 1._o the_o parent_n peculiarly_a as_o parent_n do_v enter_v into_o covenant_n for_o their_o child_n appear_v not_o but_o rather_o that_o the_o enter_v of_o the_o covenant_n be_v by_o the_o ruler_n in_o behalf_n of_o the_o subject_n as_o the_o league_n with_o the_o gibeonite_n be_v by_o the_o prince_n in_o behalf_n of_o israel_n whereto_o they_o be_v bind_v josh._n 9_o 15_o 19_o
hand_n be_v use_v to_o be_v impose_v on_o person_n in_o blessing_n gen._n 48._o 14._o which_o i_o allow_v he_o set_v down_o six_o position_n the_o first_o of_o which_o have_v confirm_v he_o speak_v thus_o of_o i_o mr._n t._n bring_v his_o reason_n against_o this_o to_o have_v nip_v all_o in_o the_o bud_n but_o those_o he_o have_v quit_v and_o be_v bring_v to_o confess_v that_o he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o they_o and_o have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o excuse_v his_o false_a quotation_n out_o of_o mark_n concern_v scandalize_a only_o excuse_v himself_o that_o he_o deliver_v himself_o doubtful_o in_o they_o apol._n 149._o answ._n it_o be_v true_a i_o bring_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la p._n 146._o piscator_n reason_n in_o his_o obseru._n 11._o on_o matth._n 19_o 14._o to_o prove_v the_o little_a child_n matth._n 19_o 13._o 14._o not_o to_o have_v be_v infant_n but_o boy_n who_o be_v capable_a of_o instruction_n which_o it_o be_v true_a i_o say_v in_o my_o apol_n p._n 149._o i_o d●d_v not_o stick_v to_o nor_o need_v i_o sith_o at_o first_o i_o say_v examen_fw-la pag._n 145._o only_a it_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o these_o be_v infant_n or_o no._n nor_o be_v it_o true_o say_v by_o mr._n bl._n that_o i_o excuse_v myself_o as_o if_o i_o have_v be_v in_o a_o fault_n for_o it_o be_v true_a which_o i_o allege_v not_o only_a piscator_fw-la conceive_v they_o be_v not_o infant_n but_o estius_n also_o annot._fw-la ad_fw-la marc._n 10._o 13._o saying_n it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o they_o be_v infant_n which_o can_v neither_o speak_v nor_o g●_n which_o very_o doubtfulness_n do_v weaken_v the_o argument_n thence_o for_o infant_n baptism_n yet_o i_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o stick_v to_o that_o there_o be_v other_o answer_v sufficient_a beside_o not_o be_v it_o true_a which_o he_o say_v that_o i_o be_o bring_v to_o confess_v i_o contradict_v myself_o in_o the_o reason_n bring_v and_o that_o they_o be_v my_o reason_n for_o i_o express_o say_v they_o be_v piscator_n reason_n and_o therefore_o though_o piscator_fw-la shall_v contradict_v my_o exposition_n of_o matth._n 18._o 5._o in_o those_o reason_n i_o need_v not_o own_o it_o much_o less_o do_v i_o confess_v that_o i_o contradict_v myself_o in_o they_o as_o mr._n blake_n false_o charge_v i_o as_o one_o that_o care_v not_o what_o he_o print_v so_o he_o may_v full_o i_o with_o a_o black_a coal_n nor_o be_v any_o false_a quotation_n out_o of_o mark_n use_v by_o i_o i_o only_o bring_v piscator_n word_n &_o de_fw-fr quali_fw-la non_fw-la scandalizando_fw-la ibidem_fw-la monet_fw-la which_o if_o he_o misapply_v to_o infant_n and_o thereby_o cross_v my_o interpretation_n of_o matth._n 18._o 5_o 6._o he_o oppose_v himself_o though_o i_o think_v neither_o piscator_fw-la nor_o myself_o be_v guilty_a of_o any_o self-contradiction_n but_o mr._n bl._n of_o mistake_n and_o calumny_n mr._n bl._n say_v he_o know_v not_o that_o any_o in_o print_n have_v maintain_v it_o that_o little_a child_n bring_v to_o christ_n be_v disease_v so_o as_o to_o have_v need_n of_o cure_n but_o there_o be_v now_o a_o book_n in_o folio_n write_v by_o mr._n samuel_n fisher_n entitle_v baby_n baptism_n mere_a babism_n in_o which_o p._n 134_o be_v these_o word_n that_o he_o shall_v touch_v they_o and_o put_v his_o hand_n on_o they_o and_o pray_v no_o question_n it_o be_v in_o order_n to_o heal_v for_o it_o be_v at_o a_o time_n when_o he_o heal_v many_o other_o if_o you_o compare_v this_o passage_n as_o it_o be_v in_o matth._n 19_o with_o the_o first_o and_o second_o verse_n of_o the_o chapter_n yea_o v._n 15._o it_o be_v plain_o express_v what_o he_o do_v i._n e._n he_o lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o and_o depart_v thence_o beside_o luke_n say_v they_o bring_v little_a child_n to_o he_o also_o that_o he_o shall_v touch_v they_o which_o also_o show_v that_o other_o be_v bring_v too_o as_o sick_a folk_n common_o be_v because_o virtue_n go_v out_o of_o he_o so_o that_o as_o many_o as_o touch_v he_o be_v make_v perfect_o whole_a nor_o do_v i_o think_v mr._n blakes_n reason_n sufficient_a to_o countervail_v the_o other_o for_o though_o the_o disciple_n well_o know_v that_o it_o be_v usual_a with_o christ_n to_o cure_v those_o that_o labour_v under_o infirmity_n of_o all_o age_n yet_o they_o sometime_o show_v their_o unwillingness_n to_o have_v person_n trouble_n christ_n about_o disease_a person_n as_o matth._n 15._o 23._o luke_n 10._o 39_o and_o whereas_o mr._n bl._n say_v the_o evangelist_n will_v never_o have_v conceal_v this_o reason_n and_o mention_v another_o if_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o disciple_n rebuke_v the_o bringer_n of_o the_o little_a child_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o evangelist_n mention_v no_o reason_n at_o all_o of_o the_o disciple_n rebuke_v if_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o the_o reason_n why_o christ_n will_v have_v they_o bring_v such_o reason_n stand_v well_o with_o this_o that_o the_o child_n be_v disease_v bring_v to_o christ_n to_o be_v cure_v and_o cure_v by_o 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