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A01540 A iust defence of certaine passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and vse of lots, against such exceptions and oppositions as have beene made thereunto to Mr. I.B. Wherein the insufficiencie of his answers giuen to the arguments brought in defence of a lusorious lot is manifested; the imbecillitie of his arguments produced against the same further discouered; and the point it selfe in controuersie more fully cleared; by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and author of the former treatise. Gataker, Thomas, 1574-1654.; Balmford, James, b. 1556. Modest reply to certaine answeres, which Mr. Gataker B.D. in his treatise of the nature, & use of lotts, giveth to arguments in a dialogue concerning the unlawfulnes of games consisting in chance. 1623 (1623) STC 11666; ESTC S102920 190,437 294

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mutual_a agreement_n to_o determine_v such_o matter_n as_o be_v ordinary_o wont_a to_o be_v determine_v thereby_o which_o therefore_o vit_fw-mi therefore_o sors_z non_fw-la est_fw-la mala_fw-la nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la admixta_fw-la irreligiositate_fw-la aut_fw-la injustitia_fw-la aut_fw-la imprudentia_fw-la cajet_fw-fr sum_fw-la vit_fw-mi so_o long_o as_o the_o use_n of_o it_o be_v keep_v otherwise_o free_a from_o superstition_n and_o impiety_n or_o from_o injustice_n and_o dishonesty_n ought_v no_o more_o to_o be_v exile_v from_o a_o christian_a man_n recreation_n than_o any_o other_o creature_n or_o ordinance_n whatsoever_o that_o have_v any_o natural_a power_n to_o delight_n and_o give_v contentment_n in_o that_o kind_n now_o then_o with_o some_o comfort_n i_o proceed_v to_o the_o answer_n i._o b._n answer_n four_o argument_n as_o m_n r._n g._n call_v it_o p._n 134._o by_o virtue_n of_o christian_a liberty_n every_o christian_a man_n have_v a_o free_a use_n of_o all_o god_n good_a creature_n to_o employ_v they_o unto_o such_o purpose_n as_o by_o any_o natural_a power_n they_o be_v enable_v unto_o but_o in_o lusorious_a lot_n the_o creature_n be_v use_v to_o no_o other_o end_n or_o use_v but_o what_o it_o have_v a_o natural_a power_n unto_o and_o such_o as_o by_o the_o mutual_a consent_n and_o agreement_n of_o those_o that_o use_v it_o it_o may_v be_v enable_v to_o effect_v therefore_o it_o be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v exile_v from_o a_o christian_a man_n recreation_n than_o any_o other_o creature_n that_o have_v any_o power_n to_o delight_n with_o this_o argument_n m_o r._n b._n deal_v just_a as_o with_o reply_n t._n g._n reply_n the_o first_o he_o leave_v out_o that_o he_o may_v by_o that_o mean_n find_v matter_n to_o work_v upon_o those_o word_n in_o the_o proposition_n within_o the_o bound_n abovementioned_n that_o be_v so_o that_o the_o same_o be_v not_o either_o against_o piety_n or_o charity_n which_o have_v be_v in_o the_o former_a argument_n insist_v