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A67003 A short letter modestly intreating a friends judgement upon Mr. Edwards, his booke he calleth an Anti-apologie, with a large but modest answer thereunto framed, in desire, with such evennesse of hand, and uprightnesse of heart, as that no godly man might be effended at it : and with soule-desire also, that they, who are contrary-minded, might not be offended neither, but instructed. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675.; Hartlib, Samuel, d. 1662. 1644 (1644) Wing W3502; ESTC R18279 37,876 40

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way their zeale may goe-forth at the dispute about it and passion may get in Then Reasons like a bad hound speeds upon a false sent and forsakes the question first started Sir you are at the end of my Preface now to my undertaking The Authour first then to his Epistle and so to the Booke and some resolves thereupon and then an end The Authour you are pleased to Name him so will I for honour sake But before I come at him I will reach forth my hand unto him and my heart for these shall never goe single My heart is towards him and to God for him That the Lord would shine upon him and his gifts that so neither he nor they may runne-out any more to waste as persons and graces doe which doe not promote the Glory of God and the salvation of soules Now I am come to him I suspect my selfe and my loving respects towards him least they carry me beyond my bounds in his commendation Truly I cannot tell in what one thing the man is wanting to make him compleat except in Charity that is a great exception and some say he is so wanting therein that he has no charity at all yet that is the everlasting grace and compleats all yea some doe not straine to say he is a man of a malignant spirit and he hath shewed forth openly nothing else he must be content to fall under censure Truly I think they say not well and so good he thinks himselfe he cares not what they say and there he may be too carelesse But for my part I would rather I could say he is a man of an excellent spirit but then my love transporting me I should say too much Yet this I must say he is very high in my thoughts not a whit higher in others account almost as he is in his owne and he hath improved his growth not a little within these foure yeares for then he was matched by he knoweth whom surely the Lord would have had him accounted that as a spetting in his face and now he hath attained to that height in the eyes of all the learned that he is too tall a match for a woman Good man Indeed the best have their failings God hath left him to himselfe as he hath said of his Brethren To try him that he might know all that was in his heart And now all know it I thinke better than himselfe for palam est It is all abroad and in every mans eare and eye what was in his heart so secret there this seven yeares upon my knowledge And here I could tell the Reader something from thence from what I know more what I heard from an excellent Master in Israel and his best Disciples in Hartford But I must not doe that my selfe which I must reprove in him for I never spake with him about it neither alone nor before others Nor would I for a world render Gath and Askelon debtors unto me Bristoll and Oxford God forbid That I should give the Philistines there matter of rejoycing or the uncircumcised there cause of Triumph Whether the reverend Authour of this Anti-Apolog hath not more rejoyced the Adversaries to the Truth than edified her Friends in their most holy Faith requires his most retired serious and saddest thoughts That so he may as he may see cause give check to his busie pen in his zeal for God and his cause he hath given his word he will not cease writing lest while in his zeal for the beating-out and clearing the Truths of God and the way of his Servants he darkens those Truths and layes scandals in the way whereby to grieve the Brethren and rejoyce the enemies to all Righteousnesse And then the more paines he takes the more worke he makes for repentings The Lord be a Light and Guide unto him now That his after-labour may be a labour of love and his worke a worke of Faith Then may he be patient in hope That he shall see the travell of his soule So I would bespeake him now and assure him That neither his Person nor his Graces have one graine the lesse waight in my esteeme because he is for the Presbyterian-way So are they and they the most the savour of whose Graces are now as is the savour of the sweetest oyntmeut all over the House and houshold of God for they are for That way whatever we call it which they are perswaded is the way of Christ And the Searcher of all hearts knowes my desire touching him is 1. That he for after time may give no occasion to those with-out to blaspheme or to them with-in To thinke he is against the strictnesse and purity of the way of Christ 2. And that not one drop of the Anointing he has received from the Father may run-out in vaine but that in his pursuance after peace he may maintaine the peace of the Church by all meanes Keeping the unitie of the Spirit in the bond thereof So much to bespeake him and his patience while for my friends satisfaction I give judgement of his Booke in the same order as it lieth The Epistle first It is well compact a sheet compleat and answers M●Sympson sheet for sheet Yet Mr Sympson his second Position there stands unshaken upon its Basis of Truth That for a son of the same Mother to divulge the faults of his Brethren is not brother-like but quite beside the Rule of the Word and way of Gods holy ones Mr Edwards saith no and argueth the negat tels us in what cases the Brethren have divulged the faults of their Brethren But that was not to the case in question for it was not the case between his Brethren and him As I suppose every man will see that hath read the Apoll. Narr and his Booke against it which I did read next a sheet or two and there about I brake off for there me thought I met with too common and unbecomming language agreeable to a mans own spirit which like fire cannot be but it must break forth and so disagreeing to That spirit we should breath after that I cast downe the Booke with some distaste and then fell a dipping here I dipped and there I dipped a snatch and away as they say the dogge does in Nilus and for the same Logicke a dog hath because there are serpents there such biting things Indeed I discerned quickly the frame of the Booke and the spirit of the man heated above its due proportion in such matters and that my best way was to dip and away and so I hastened to the close of the booke the last leafe wherein the good man summons This Church and That and a third and all are but one to come at his call and to doe as he bids them * Truly Sir I could smile to see how the masters of their Assemblies stirre now like a mountaine which one man very imperiously bad come unto him the mountaine moved like