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A43841 Fasciculus literarium, or, Letters on several occasions I. Betwixt Mr. Baxter, and the author of the Perswasive to conformity, wherein many things are discussed, which are repeated in Mr. Baxters late plea for the nonconformists, II. A letter to an Oxford friend, concerning the indulgence Anno 1671/2, III. A letter from a minister in a country to a minister in London, IV. An epistle written in Latin to the Triers before the Kings most happy restauration / by John Hinckley ... Hinckley, John, 1617?-1695.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1680 (1680) Wing H2046; ESTC R20043 157,608 354

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you whom we leave to your own Master Yet do you make a hainous matter of it that we thus by fearing sin our selves do seem to think that Conformity is any sin at all and say we weaken your Hands prejudice your Ministry and make the People cold in joyning with you What then should we do if we published the Reasons of our Non-conformity and opened all that sin which we fear which yet you so vehemently call for Yea you say Who would unmuzzle a fierce Panther that would worry him that set his Chops at liberty even then when I ask you but to get me a License for that which you so openly call for which is all one as to say Do it if thou dare and if thou do it not thou abjurest thy Calling and refusest to give the World a reason of it You can tell the World that in my Book of Rest I seem to go their way that hold That they may fight against the King if it were for the cause of Religion to purge the Church of Idolatry and Superstition and cite P. 123. in which Edition of 12 I know not when I never wrote so never thought so but have proved the contrary at large in several Writings Yet this is done deliberately in print You fetch your Charge from the old Editions of that Book eleven years after I had retracted and expung'd and left out of that same Book not only that which you pervert but all the rest from end to end which seemed in the least to favour the late Wars Either you knew this or you did not If you did was that done like a peaceable Minister to aggravate with such gross and odious untruth things retracted and utterly expunged even long before the Act of Oblivion and that so as directly tendeth to the temporal ruine of him you charge them on If you knew it not did it beseem you to meddle in Print where you know no better what you do oppose What good will Austins Retractations do him if he shall ten or eleven years after be freshly charged with all that he retracted and much more yea I gave Mr. Hampden Pie one of the Books of One of the latter Editions so altered but a little before he came to your House to his utter undoing If you did not see it you might have done before you had written against it Yea as not regarding your self-contradiction at the same time you call me to retract my Political Aphorisms and tell me how excellent a Work it would be when I had done it before and had so long before retracted what you aggravate Though the one was done so lately that you could scarce know of it the other that was done eleven years before might have been known And if so long time excuse not the Book or Author yet from your bloody Charge why do you desire him to retract another What good will retracting it do if you will nevertheless so many years after make such use of it from what Principles and to what Ends I leave to you The Aphorisms which you would have retracted you say are those especially which are gathered by an Eminent Hand Who can think but here you condemn all those which that Eminent hand hath gathered And the first of all is Governours are some limited some de facto unlimited The unlimited are Tyrants and have no right to that unlimited Government The next words are For they are all Subjects themselves and under the Sovereignty and Laws of God Because it is your highest Preferments as you say to preach the Gospel I beseech you give me some such light here as is necessary to a Retractation If any Governours are not limited by God tell me whether it be any sin in them if they make Laws commanding Men to deny God and blaspheme him to worship themselves as Gods as Caligula did to worship Mahomet or Idols to kill all the Innocent People of the Land I talk not of the absolute Power of all Mens Estates and Lives Nay whether there be any thing imaginable which they may not command or whether it be possible for that Man at all to sin that is not limited by God And tell me if this be the Doctrine which you count it your chief preferment to preach And whether you can think that any wise Governours in the World will take those for friendly Promoters of their Interest who would so calumniate them as to make their Subjects believe that they lay any such claim You can gather that I approve of Mens terms of Ministration because I joyn with the Church which they teach As if no more were required of a Curate than of a Communicant And as if the same Reasons which warrant my Worship as a private Man would warrant all my Subscriptions Declarations Oaths and all the rest of Ministerial Conformity You can blame me for not Actively submitting to the Laws when you can name no Law which commandeth me what you mean You can Magisterially say Not that loose paralitick Discourse given to the Kings Commissioners at the Savoy written rather Rhetorically ad Captandum Populum to insinuate into vulgar Capacities than Logically to evince the Hypothesis contended for strip'd of its multifarious Fallacies ungrounded Surmises and erroneous Suppositions c. 1. As if you knew what was given in at the Savoy when a considerable part of the Papers were never published Yea I have reason enough to believe that no Man living can give an account of them to you but my self because no Copies were taken and some Papers only read 2. There are many Papers printed which were given in upon that occasion and who knows by this Character which of them it is that is called the Loose paralitick Discourse 3. You talk of a Hypothesis contended for as if you had a mind to be thought to say somewhat though you understand not about what For no Hypothesis is named by you and no wonder If you mean the first second or third Paper given in at the beginning of the Business to the Lord Chancellor the Hypothesis was that union is desirable the means whereto we offered as we were commanded If you mean our exceptions against the Liturgy the Hypothesis was that the Liturgy was corrigible and to be altered in some things And do you oppose that Hypothesis which the King had expresly put into the words of his Commission so far as to appoint Men to alter it and which the Convocation by their actual alterations owned If you mean our Reply to the Answer of the Exceptions the Hypothesis general is the same And what made all those Learned Persons who wanted neither Time nor Will forbear ever to give an Answer to that Reply if it were so loose and contemptible as you make it Was it because contempt was fitter than a Confutation that could not be because smaller matters not written by Men commissioned by the King for such a Treaty nor offered by their own importunity
Country People do not dote upon such as take their Tithes Therefore if they cannot be avenged on their Parsons any other ways they will leave them in their Pulpits by themselves CAP. IV. The Indulgence Confutes our Books which have been written in the behalf of Conformity BEsides other Malignant Influences which the sad Comet of a Toleration sheds abroad Though it cuts our hearts deep enough to have our People ravished out of our Bosoms and decoy'd out of our Assemblies For these are our glory And you know who said it that he had rather die than that his glorying in the progress of the Gospel should be made void yet there is another fatal disaster which attends the motion of that Monster Some have endeavoured by their Pens to vindicate their Mother-Church from the Imputation of being an Harlot and have asserted that she requires nothing that is sinful in order to her Communion How this has been manag'd in an Argumentative and Perswasive way How the Policy Government and Liturgy of the Church have been defended you are not ignorant and other Learned and Pious men are abundantly satisfied But now on a suddain some there are who being sheltered under the Command of this Toleration as if they were men of Gath have with one breath blow'd away all the Paper that hath been written One tells the world in Print He that thinks that such toyes as Mr. Fulwood Mr. Stileman Mr. Hinckley c. should satisfie them He thinks contemptibly of their Vnderstandings But Sir Is this a sufficient Answer to all those Books to call them toys without attempting any thing in particular against them Who will care what Volumes were written against him if the meer calling them toys were an Orthodox Confutation When you disputed in the Schools would you have taken it for a good Answer if your Respondent had Nick-nam'd your Argument and cry'd nugae As if he had triumph'd before the Victory Yet here is a Thrasonical Fencer comes upon the Stage looks scornfully cryes pish And then his deluded followers who are no small number take it for granted That whatever has been said for Conformity is quite overthrown But he goes on Let him procure us leave but to publish our Reasons against Conformity and then let him tell us that we were better Conform when he hath answered them 'T is easie to talk when none must Confute him and to brave it against one whose tongue is tyed You may imagine this man standing with his hands upon his sides strutting and vaunting as if he would beat down all before him with the fierce aspect of his Eyes As if he would fly over the Alps had he but the wings of an Hawk and that he would hew us all in pieces had he but Scanderberg's Sword Let him but procure us leave to publish our Reasons against Conformity The man is grown modest and mannerly He has done as much as this amounts to formerly without asking leave But what need is there of elaborate Reasons against toyes must Cannons be planted against a Paper-wall Are there any Laws so Draconical Severe and Keen as to hinder any man from answering toyes Or has this Champion nothing else to do had he leave but to encounter Flies Non vacat exigius c. one would think He could shew as many feats as a Mountebank's man if his hands were untied or that he had strange Discoveries in his Budget only the mouth of it is seal'd up and tied with a Gordian knot He complains that his Tongue is tyed If he had spoken the truth their had not been much loss to this part of the World Had his tongue been tyed with a Cable-Rope to his Jaws Ill betide him that should cut it for by so doing he would have loosed a Chain that had hamper'd a wild Beast and pluck't up a Floodgate that would indanger another Deluge Those that have known this Author for above these thirty years never knew him subject to this Infirmity or once guilty of such a Distemper His tongue has been rolling in his mouth continually And ever and anon like Mount Aetna has belch'd forth some wildfire wherewith he has scorch't those that stood in his way this is not that Ignitum Eloquium which was said to be in St. Bernard His tongue has been like a troubled Sea casting up dirt and mire into the face of the Church He has been no more Tongue-ty'd than some of those poor wretches in Bedlam that rave day and night or some Impetuous chiding Women whose tongues do seldom take any rest longer than they are hush't and silenc'd or as it were ty'd to their good Behaviour by a dead Sleep I am sure you read better Books and place your time better than to stoop to Canting Gibberish But we in the Country either for want of Money to buy the Volumes of the Greek and Latine Fathers or else want of Skill to understand them or leisure to read them are forc't to take up with Pamphlets in our Mother-tongue such as the Pedlars furnish us with at our Doors Among others this Tongue-ty'd Scribe furnishes us with the greatest plenty His pregnant Invention voids a Book almost every Month. He is as fruitful as a Rabbit Nay He tells the world he made some of them as that of the Grotian Religion in four or five days He had little cause to say 'T is easie to talk where none must confute whereas we do not find that he either fears Laws or Men. Nor can any man give him a word but he has receiv'd three for it You may as easily bind the Influences of Orion or stop the ebbing or flowing of the Sea as tye his tongue or be a Remora to his Pen in the career of Writing But Quid tanto dignum feret hic promissor hiatu what must we expect when this Mountain this Behemoth shall groan and bring forth Some Masculine Offspring sure If so It is more than all the Non-Conformists have hatch'd these hundred years T. C. saw as far into this Controversie as R. B. yet what said he which did not receive a full and Adaequate Answer from Archbishop W. Others have but lick't up his Vomit It may be with Bolsech or Aretine this great Undertaker may snort out his foam and be-dirt us with his Reproaches But if neither he nor his might have a Toleration of all Religions until they can evince by Dint of Argument that they cannot have Communion with our Church without Sin so that there is a Necessity to come out of her and separate from her we need not fear that our peace and quiet should be disturb'd either by the lowing of the Oxen on the one hand or the braying of the Asses on the other But Sir Take notice of his Threatners Ingenuity and Candour He would make the world believe his tongue is ty'd He cannot Print his Sentiments on this Subject I am inform'd and I dare ingage to make it good That after