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A07880 The Popes funerall Containing a plaine, succinct, and pithy reply, to a pretensed answere of a shamelesse and foolish libell, intituled, The forerunner of Bels downfall. VVhich is nothing else indeede, (as the indifferent reader shall preceiue by the due peruse thereof,) but an euident manifestation of his owne folly; with the vtter confusion of poperie, and all popish vassals throughout the Christian world. Bell, Thomas, fl. 1593-1610. 1605 (1605) STC 1825; ESTC S101478 72,528 132

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or to my Survey or to any other of my bookes written against them and their p●t●●ed Hotch-potch Religion Yet this last moneth of Februarie one shamelesse and namelesse Iesuite hath published not a direct and full answere but a Fore-runner forsooth against mee In which Pamphlet hee turneth himselfe this way that way and euery way saue onely to the marke at which hee neuer aymeth He perceiueth right well that many of the Popelings beginne to stagger at their doctrine and Romish faith because they haue beene so long silent and dare not answere my Bookes For the procuring of which mortall wound he telleth them of a most rare and soueraigne medicine which the Iesuits haue brought out of the new found worlde viz. That my Bookes were answered fiue yeare agoe and that the answere is suppressed hitherto for speciall vnknowne causes but must shortly come abroad Hereof more at large in the proper place Now so it is most excellent King that the Fore-runner would seeme desirous though indeed he desireth nothing lesse to haue a publique dispute and so to fight the combate with me Viua voce and therefore doth hee challenge me daring and redaring me to the same Who if he knew how willingly gladly I am ready to cast him my Gauntlet would doubtlesse vse his words more sparingly in this behalfe In regard hereof most gracious and dread Soueraigne I now prostrate vpon my knees doe most humblie beseech your most excellent Maiestie that it will please your Highnes of your most Princely fauour to graunt your Royall licence and safe conduct for any English Iesuite or Iesuited Papist in the whole worlde that shall haue courage to appeare for the true performance of the challenge in such manner as is in this replie expressed Oh most gratious Soueraigne I am joyfull when I remember this future combat I wish in my heart that it may bee effected with all expedition for I confidentlie perswade my selfe in our Lorde Iesus that his Name shall thereby bee glorified your Maiestie highlie honoured the Papists stricken dead and all true hearted English subiects receiue vnvnspeakeable endlesse comfort If it shall fall out otherwise and that I shall not be found euen in your Maiesties iudgement to haue the victorie and vpper hand I will be content to loose my life for my iust reward as one that hath dishonoured your Maiestie and the cause The Almightie blesse your Maiestie with a long and most happie raigne vpon earth and with eternall glorie in the world to come Amen From my studie this eighteenth of March 1605. Your Maiesties most humble subiect Tho. Bels. How faults escaped in the first Booke may be corrected by the Reader THe Booke for expedition sake was committed to three seuerall Printers by reason whereof the Pages could not bee distinguished with numbers Hence it commeth that the Reader can not so easily find out the faults corrected as he may in some other Bookes Howbeit if hee shall marke the Booke and the Chapters and reckon the Pages from the Chapter vntil he come to that page line in which the fault is named he can not but haue his desire in that behalfe How faults of the first Booke escaped in the Printing are to be corrected In the first Chapter seuenth page and first line the word but must be added before the word here Chap. 1. page 9. line 1. the word worlde must be added before the word well Chap. 2. P. 4. l. 23. the word and must be taken away Chap. 2. P. 4. l. 6. the word were must followe the word and. Chap. 2. P. 5. l. 24 the word they must be added before the word shew Chap. 2. P. 6. l. 14. the word two must be added for the word three Chap. 2. p. 10. l. 20. the word one must goe before the word onely Chap. 2. p 11. l. 5. the word them must be made the chap. 2. p. 11. l. 15. the word doltlesse must be made doltish Chap. 2. p. 13. l. 19. many words are superfluous Chap. 3. p. 2. l. 20. for nor reade not Chap. 3. p. 4. l. 8. for soule in the margent reade soyle chap. 4 p. 2. l. 10. for discourse read discouerie In the Caveat p. 1. l. 16. for Operaepertiū reade Operaepretium Ibid. p. 7. l. 20. How faults escaped in the second Booke are to be corrected Chap. 2. p. 2. l. 12. for obiection reade contradiction Chap. 3. page foure l. three and thirtie for so reade Saint Chap. 3. p. 2.23 for his reade the. chap. 7. in the 4. reason for dialogue reade decalogue Some other faults there are but the Reader may very easily discerne them A Table containing the principall contents of all the Chapters Chapters of the first booke Chap. 1. Of the Methode of the discourse with the reason of the same Chap. 2. Of the Libellers notorious vntruthes lyes and slaunders Chap. 3. Of the libellers foolish arrogāt challenge of the name Chap. 4. Of the Romish hotch-potch Religion with the reason Chapters of the second booke Chap. 1. Of dissention among Papists Chap. 2. Of the marriage of Priests Chap. 3. Of a terrible monster without both head and foote Chap. 4. Of Card. Bellermines opinion and doctrine Chap. 5. Of the condigne merite of workes Chap. 6. Of S. Austens opinion touching involuntarie motions Chap. 7. Of Pope Martins dispensation THE POPES Funerall The first Booke of certaine ridiculous scandalous slaunderous godlesse shamelesse and senselesse extravagants vttered and made salable for a Souse by a most impudent brasen-faced brainelesse and namelesse Libeller in the behalfe of the whole rabble and most cursed crewe of English traiterous Iesuites and others their Iesuited and deuoted vassals CHAP. I. Of the Methode obserued in this discourse together with the reason of the same THe abiect and forlorne cursed crew of Iesuites who by the verdict iudgement and testimonie of the popish Secular Seminarie-priests are notorious lyars coozeners theeues traitours and most wicked men vpon earth feeling them selues pricked galled and deepely goared with the strong reasons euident proofes irrefragable testimonies and invincible demonstrations laid open before the eyes of my readers throughout all my bookes as most strong forts towers stony rockes harder then any flint enuironed on euery side with well fortified bulwarkes rampiers especially seeing and with inward sighs and sobs perceiuing their Pope and Poperie to be turned vpside downe and with deadly woundes to lye a bleeding and all this to be verified by the constant verdict doome of their most famous best learned best approued popish writers thereupon bestirring themselues this way that way euery way like mad-men hopping and skipping in the Alpes and as vagarant persons vpon the stonie Rockes of mount Synai seeking passages but finding none haue at the length called to mind and bethought themselues how they might cunningly though shamefully falsly most damnably dazel the eyes and steale away the hearts of my readers
his Cappe of consideration answered right grauely though neither honestly nor yet Clarkely that they should either not meddle at all with that matter or else deale rather against my person then against my Doctrine This aduise as it seemeth hath now taken place For this Libeller fighteth with might and maine against my person but dealeth too too niggardly with my Doctrine I haue else-where made mention of this Garnets Letter where I made full rehearsall thereof Ad verbum and framed a direct answere to the same The great maister Iesuite Robert Parsons affirmed about three yeares agoe that the confutation of my worthy workes as he scornfully termeth them was vndertaken and to bee published if it should seeme necessarie Now Sir this most necessarie confutation which they haue been so many yeares buzzing about is published to the worlde Yet so sillie and so simple a thing as I cannot tell what to make of it or how to name it The foure first Chapters of this Libell I would let passe without answere if two causes did not vrge me thereunto because they containe nothing but meere by-matters and impertinent stuffe First for that the well affected Reader may make good vse thereof especially by helpe of my censure annexed to the same Secondly because wise Salomon aduiseth me to answere a foole according to his foolishnesse least he seeme wise in his own conceit I therefore purpose in God to reduce to certaine distinct heads and chapters the notorious lies vaine brags vnchristian slaunders and false accusations which the Libeller hath abruptly without all Eutaxia dispersed in euery page of the aforesaid Chapters so I thinke to enlarge his most filthy and most scurrilous Libell which else for the quantitie might be an Almanack But by the power of God I will handle the last Chapter cathauton ad amussim duly examining euery sentence period thereof to the very bottome so as no starting hole shall be left him to be a sanctuarie or refuge to hide his face The Libeller would seeme desirous to grapple with me but it appeareth farre otherwise by his dealing For what man in the world taking vpon him to answere my booke the downefal of Poperie would flye from the whole booke from euery article nay from euery main point ground and period thereof as one afraid once to touch the same and onely to snatch here and there a sentence of the least force to his witting none doubtlesse It is apparant to all the well all this notwithstanding I haue so mangled and maymed him with my dartes and so wounded him with my bullets that the scarres and markes will bee seene vpon him so long as he liueth in this world In his fift and last Chapter though he hath dealt very sparingly in answering those fewe sentences whereof he made his choyse I wil God willing so bicker skirmish and grapple with him as I shal neither leaue him one whole bone in his skin nor one tooth in his head nor yet one haire on his beard That done I will send him to his good maisters as a cur-dogge that barketh apace but cannot bite and as a beardlesse boy without haire on his face voide of all learning wit sense and reason that so hee may bring them newes of his good fortune VVhat I doe here promise I hope in God to performe the same in due season CHAP. II. Of the Libellers notorious vntruthes or to speake plaine English of his flat lyes THe first word of the title of his Libell the forerūner of Bels downfal implyeth a flat lye So forsooth to insinuate to his Readers that a filthy and huge fardell of lyes but small or no truth at all can be expected from his Penne. But how is this proued Thus. Forerunner must perforce be vnderstood either in respect of my person or else in respect of my booke If in respect of my person it is both impertinent to the matter in hand and is also a manifest and flat lye in his way of proceeding I proue it because in his iudgement I had my downefall when I renounced their late Romish Religion which I thanke God for it was many yeares agoe Againe this Libeller of his great charitie auoucheth desperately that long since a foule downefall brake the necke of my soule God forgiue mee my sinnes and saue the necke of his soule if it bee his holy will I feare no such causelesse curses but haue a firme and stedfast hope of my saluation in CHRIST IESVS If in respect of my booke it is also a flat lye because it is so farre from being a forerunner that it is a plaine aftercreeping and doth aunswere my booke with as much speede as one may driue a Snaile to Rome Thus much for his first lye Let vs proceede 2 The Libeller pleaseth himselfe aboue measure in calling mee a turne-coate and a patched minister This hee repeateth againe and againe in foure seuerall Pages My aunswere standeth thus First I most willingly confesse my selfe to bee a turne-coate in a godly sense and Christian meaning that is to say to haue turned from falshod to truth from vice to vertue from iniquitie to pietie and from sinne to a Godly Christian life Hee that disdaineth or shameth to bee a turne-coate in this sense shall neuer see Gods face in his Kingdome For as holy writte teacheth vs euerie where they that are the holiest of all sinne manie a time and therefore must they either repent and turne their coate of conuersation or else perish euerlastingly And as for mine owne turning my selfe freely confessed it in the first booke which I published and to reproach one for his sinnes and errors which he humbly acknowledgeth is not only against sincere christianitie but also against all modest humanitie Neither is it to the purpose or question in controuersie betweene vs. For it skilleth not what I am my selfe so the Doctrine bee sound which I deliuer But the want of an honest cause lacke of good grounds and reasons to defend your Poperie draweth you violētly to these foolish impertinent by matters Secondly as Peter denied Christ three times of infirmitie and as Paul persecuted Christs Church of ignorance and they both for all that found mercie and fauour with God for Christs sake so my selfe I trust and constantly beleeue who erred ignorantly in my yonger yeares at which time I carefully sought the truth but found it not haue attained remission of my sins according to mercie through faith in Christ Iesus S. Austin was a Manichee after that being a Catholick Bishop hee slipped into sundrie errors Petrus Martyr Martinus Bucerus reuerend Cranmer graue Latimer learned Ridley and many others were sometime Popish Priests and yet after that most singular Preachers ' and notable Champions of Christs holy Gospell But of these yee Papists make no reckoning albeit sundrie of them sealed their Doctrine with their blood and by the Papists burnt with
me lyeth to procure a safe conduct for the safe comming safe abiding and safe departure of him whosoeuer he be that shall accept and vndertake the true performance of the Challenge in manner aforesayd Now if no papist in all the world shall haue courage to defend this short answere which is but an answere to some odde sentences and pieces of my Bookes and of those pieces which themselues haue made choyse of and in their best iudgement singled out as the weakest parts and thinges of least force I cannot but perswade my selfe that all the world knowing and hearing of their dastardly cowardnesse in defending their Religion will forthwith acquit and discharge me of their notorious lyes cozenage and slaunders and withall detest as the deadly poyson of their immortall soules their lyes their iugling their slaunders their legierdemaine and their vsuall cozening trickes wherewith they haue a long time seduced deceiued and bewitched a great part of the Christian world The Libeller in one place chargeth mee thus Be it known to him that he belyeth Iosephus for no such thing as he noteth can bee wronge racked or coniured out of his wordes Againe in another place he chargeth me in this manner I tell him his lippes haue lashed out too lustily and that he hath wickedly slaundered Pope Martin Where the Reader may see euidently that I am peremptorily charged as a most notorious Malefactor with two heynous crimes viz. to haue belyed Iosephus Angles and to haue wickedly slandered Pope Martin Well if I be found nocent and guiltie of these two most heynous crimes then let all the people and nations spit in my face and speake their full pleasures on me in Gods holy name But on the other side if either no papist dare appeare to performe and answere the Challenge and to speake plaine English I thinke it will so fall out or if some foole-hardie Iesuited papist shall appeare who shall fayle in defending the cause and be ouerthrowne in his owne pleading which doubtlesse is the best end that can fall on their side then I hope the people will spit in his face and not that onely but also detest him the pope and all late vpstart Romish Religion Amen The Popes necke is alreadie broken his funerall is prepared and no remedie but he must in all hast be interred And doubtlesse if euer this future expected Challenge come once to handstrokes and valiant bickering viua voce the whole crew of Iesuites and Iesuited papists will thereby receiue such mortall woundes that they must shortly be interred after their pope If any Iesuit or Iesuited papist now in England wheof there is good store haue any hart and corage to defēd their Fore-runner let him signifie so much in manner required in my Challenge that we may grapple together viua voce while I am in London They are so earnest to know my reply that as I heare they fetch euerie proofe from the presse assoone as it is readie If none of them dareth this performe then may all the rest perswade themselues that they hange their soules vpon them who are not able to defend that which they force them to beleeue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 A Caueet or Christian admonition to the Reader AFter my Reply against a shamelesse Libel intituled the Fore-runner of Bels downe-fall was sent to the the Presse beeing authorized by higher powers to bee imprinted a sincere Christiā of good esteeme the Lord of Heauen and earth reward his godly zeale acquainted me with a new Fore-runner of Bels downefall so eagerly doe the Papists wish my downe-fall with this newe addition in the Title The second time set forth and such faults corrected as escaped in the first Print as in the Preface is declared To this second Fore-runner of Antichrist and to the Catch-poll of Satan the Preface addressed for an ornament in that behalfe I haue deemed it Operaepertium to adde a briefe censure therunto for the instruction and necessarie satisfaction of the godly and well affected Reader albeit it came so lately to my hands as very hardly I could effect the same A great wonderment it is to mee and if I be not deceiued to all the Sages and wise men of the Christian world what should moue the Author of the Fore-runner so suddenly to set foorth a second Fore-runner immediately after the former If I may diuine and without offence to the Popes holinesse the grauitie of his sanctified Popelings this is the true cause indeed not that with which the Libeller would gladly dazell the eyes of his Reader viz. The Iesuits who rule and ouer-rule all papists in the world I dare not say the Pope himself who haue their spies in euery corner of this land hauing receiued intelligence by their saide Spies that I was in hand with a Reply or answere to their saide Fore-runner and their owne consciences withall condemning them and telling them that they are not able to endure the force and truth of my reply haue laid their heads together deuised the best shift they could to seduce the simple papists which depend vpon them and hang the saluation of their soules vpon their shoulders For thus the case standeth with them They may not read any Booke no nor heare any read vnto them which either my selfe or any other good Christian shall set forth against the Pope or any one iote of Popish religion If otherwise the partie that shall so doe vnlesse hee haue the Popes dispensation is excommunicated Ipso facto deliuered vp to Satan and cast out of the Popish Church Now sir when these simple and sillie Papists alas alas for pitty shall heare of my Reply and shall tell the Iesuits and Iesuited Priests what report flyeth abroad of the condemnation of their Fore-runner and Religion they will tell them roundly a tale of Robin Hood and little Iohn viz. That I haue not answered their Booke at all but another counterfeit Pamphlet deuised by mine owne braine This to be so I proue by a triple meane First because the Libeller denyeth to acknowledge hat Pamphlet to be his owne against which I haue framed my Replye Secondly because the second Fore-runner is in euery Chapter in euery Page in euery sentence and Period the very same in true sense and meaning with the former Fore-runner of Bels downfall yea so many faults haue escaped in the latter Print as in the first To which I must needes adde that as I did not once touch their faults escaped in the first Print no more doe I say any thing against the faultes escaped in the second Print For I doe and euer did scorne to take any aduantage against the Author by reason of that which chanceth through the default of the Printer Thirdly because himselfe freely granteth that he doth not so much lamēt the losse of the books of the first Print as it grieueth him to think that any be escaped to carry newes