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A17976 Iurisdiction regall, episcopall, papall Wherein is declared how the Pope hath intruded vpon the iurisdiction of temporall princes, and of the Church. The intrusion is discouered, and the peculiar and distinct iurisdiction to each properly belonging, recouered. Written by George Carleton. Carleton, George, 1559-1628. 1610 (1610) STC 4637; ESTC S107555 241,651 329

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Lords supper and in such things might appoint what he list This manner of declaring the Kings Iurisdiction did so much offend the reformed Churches that Caluin the writers of the Centuries doe much complaine thereof and worthily For the Bishop of Winchester sought not like a curious triar of mettals to seuere the gold from the siluer and drosse from both but as hee found this massie crown of Iurisdiction vpon the Popes head so he tooke it with gold siluer coper drosse and all and set vpon the Kings head So that the thing which procured so much offence was not the title but the Bishops false and erronious declaration of that title If any obiect against me what then will you take vpon you to handle this thing better then such a learned and prudent Prelate I answer the Bishop wanted neither wit nor learning for the opening of this point but onely a loue to the truth which loue when I shall bring to this question I finde my selfe therby so supported that neither the perfections of other men nor mine owne imperfections can daūt me so much as to cause me to giue ouer the defence of the truth True it is that a more skilfull Archimedes might haue beene set on this worke to distinguish the things that haue lien so long confounded in this question or the common helpe of many might haue beene combined wherin our aduersaries are now growen wiser in their generation then the children of light And though it seeme to be true that an euill cause hath more need of helpes yet there is no reason that they who haue the handling of a good cause should in confidence of the cause neglect any helpe that possibly they may attain vnto Albeit we must confesse that the arme of God hath wonderfully declared it selfe by weak meanes against great For if a man should looke vpon the meanes on both sides with an eye of flesh he would thinke as Vzziah did When the Arke was shaken that the Church could not possibly stand vp by so weake meanes For on the one side the Pope sheweth himselfe with the riches of Saint Peters great and potent patrimony with the helpe of so many great Princes with the councell and policie of his Cardinals with the armies of his Canonists Priests secular and regular but especially in these later years of his Iesuites who glorying so much of their learning and filling the world with their vaunts being supported by wealth and policie abounding with all worldly meanes that their hearts can desire incouraged by preferments march like armed troupes entring a battell On the other side a company of poore men Luther Bucer Zuinglius O●…colampadius Martyr Caluin and such like v●…terly contemned of the Iesuites bringing no other furniture with them sauing a good conscience learning and a loue to the trueth seeme to make a poore shew without force without glory If Gods truth were to ●…e vpholden by humane meanes or if the seruants of the truth were drawne to speake in the Church as Lawyers are for their fees at the barre then what hope could wee haue to stand against the Iesuites the Popes Lawyers who by inuincible clamours facing and obstinacy make not truth but victory the end they aime at But as there is great oddes in the meanes on the one side so there appeareth no lesse difference in the successe on the other side For by these weake and contemned means the world is subdued vnto Christ deliuered from the bondage of superstition wisdome is iustified of her owne children and the truth triumpheth in the sincerity and godlinesse of weake meanes against the malice policy and strength of her prepotent aduersaries Which successe compared with the meanes on both sides doth manifest the arme of God to be in the cause that groweth so much against the expectation of the world and meanes For what other power could make so weake meanes preuaile so much against so great policy and strength but the same power though not in the sam●… measure which by a company of poore Fishermen despised in the world subdued the whole world vnto the obedience of Christ As this successe and blessing by the presence of God hath beene hitherto apparant in this cause so the Iesuites take order that the same successe and blessing may continually hereafter follow our cause vntill it hath rooted out all the aduersaries that make opposition against it for what greater strength or aduantage can bee giuen to our cause then the wickednesse of our aduersaries doth giue How often doth Moses declare to the Church of Israell that the fauour of God was so much declared towards them not for their owne righteousnes but for the wickednes of their aduersaries So that if we should stand still and looke on and holde our selues in patience our aduersaries will worke the meanes by their owne strange cruelties in their Inquisitions by their prophane and vncleane conuersation by their grosse Idolatry by their horrible treasons and conspiracies against the liues of Princes by their diuelish deuises for subuersion of whole States at one blow by their hypocrisie falshood and aequiuocations and by that most admirable and exquisit villany that euer was inuented in deprauing corrupting altering and chaunging all auncient writers by these and the like practises of wickednes they themselues will worke the meanes of our successe and of their owne destruction And if the Prince of this world and his first begotten had not blinded their eyes and their hearts they could not choose but see and acknowledge the experience of Gods fauour and protection mightily declared from heauen vpon our cause our Prince and State and of late much increased and made apparant to all th●… world by their owne wicked practises Then the difference being so great in the meanes and in the successe so great also betweene our conuersation and theirs must needes declare a great difference betweene our hopes and theirs our Religion and theirs they haue raised the Princes and armies of the world against vs when they pretended peace wee neuer vsed deceit or wrong against them they haue by barbarous deuises attempted to procure our vtter subuersion we desire hartily their conuersion to God they curse reuile and baspheme vs wee pray for them this difference may shew where truth and Religion is and might if they entred into the serious consideration of things drawe them to cease from all wicked attempts to follow and embrace one trueth and to worshippe one God with vs. But if there be no remedy but that Princes and States must be oppugned by a perpetuall league of Conspiracy from Rome if nothing can satisfie them but the blood of Kings then what remaineth but that the Princes of Christendome prepare themselues to that great battel which S. Iohn saith shal be fought in the plain of the earth against Gog and Magog When God shall raise the spirits of princes to that worke he will open the way and giue the
this opinion was r●…olued that Supreame Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction was in the Popes And therefore we prouing that Supreame and last Appellation doth by the law of God belong to none but to the Soueraigne Prince conclude vndoubtedly that Supreame Iurisdiction belongeth to him onely 10. Heere a question may be mooued whether Saint Paul did well and orderly when he appealed to Caesar and whether Caesar was made iudge of these questions which were Doctrines We aunswere Saint Paul had no meaning to make C●…sar iudge of any point of faith But whereas hee was persecuted by the high Priests who sought his life in this matter of coactiue power Saint Paul giueth Iurisdiction to Caesar. There is also a difference betweene that power which heathen Princes haue and that which Christian Princes haue for heathen Princes haue all power coactiue whatsoeuer the cause be and without this helpe the Church could neuer deale in matters of this nature Christian Princes besides this coactiue power haue also as appeareth in the gouernment of Israel externall discipline in matters Ecclesiasticall 11. Thus we haue declared the distinct right of the King and the Priest after that they were distinguished by the written law of God we haue prooued that the Soueraigne Iurisdiction coactiue resteth in the Prince by a right which God hath giuen and therefore may not be taken away by man It followeth to consider how this right hath beene accordingly exercised by the godly Kings of Israel Ios●… commanded the people to be circumcised and not Eleazerus the cause was Eccles●…ticall but to command in such causes declareth iurisdiction Dauid reduceth the Arke he appointeth Priests Leuites Singers Porters to serue at the Tabernacle he assigneth Officers of the sonnes of Aaro●… All which being matters Ecclesiasticall the Prince as hauing soueraigne authority in both causes ordaineth Solomon buildeth the Temple and consecrateth it Asa remoueth Idols and dedicated the Altar of God that was before the porch of the Lord. Iehosaphat abolisheth Idolatry cutteth downe the groues sendeth Priests and Leuites to teach in Townes and Cities Setteth vp Iudges both ciuill and Ecclesiasticall and commandeth both to iudge according to godlinesse truth and Iustice. Because in the words of Iehosaphat these things are distinctly deliuered we will obserue the whole place The wordes are these And hee set iudges in the land throughout all the strong Cities of Iuda Citie by Citie And said to the Iudges take heed what you doe for you execute not the iudgement of man but of the Lord and he will be with you in the cause and iudgement Wherefore now let the feare of the Lord be vpon you take heed and doe it for there is no iniquitie with the Lord our God neither respect of persons nor receiuing of reward Moreouer in Ierusalem did Iehosaphat set of the Leuites and of the Priests and of the chiefe of the families in Israel for the iudgement and cause of the Lord and they returned to Ierusalem And he charged them saying thus shall you doe in the feare of the Lord with a perfect heart And in euery cause that shall come to you of your brethren that dwell in your Cities betweene blood and blood betweene Law and precept Statutes and iudgements you shall iudge them and admonish them that they trespasse not against the Lord that wrath come not vpon you and vpon your brethren And behold Amariah the high Preist shall be the chiefe ouer you in all matters of the Lord. 12. From which words we collect thus much concerning ●…he Kings Iurisdiction and the things wherein it consisteth ●…irst the King appointeth and placeth both Temporall and clesi●…sticall Iudges and commandeth and chargeth them so placed to execute their functions faithfully we inferre vpon this command in both alike that hee hath Iurisdiction ouer both causes But here let me remember a trifling obiection which some of our aduersaries haue deuised of late they would distinguish betweene command and Iurisdiction For they deny not but that all sortes of persons are vnder the Kings commaund and gouernment whom he may command each to doe their Office and yet they vtterly deny the Kings Iurisdiction and tell vs that command and Iurisdiction must not be hudled vp together Now let vs consider what hudling is in this when the Kings command and his Iurisdiction are set as things depending and cohaering one to the other When we say the King may command we meane plainely as we speake that the King hath from God lawfull authoritie to command and to punish them that breake his command This is the common vnderstanding of the Kings command But these Romish sophisters when they say the King may command do not vnderstand neither will they acknowledge at any hand that the King hath lawfull authoritie from God to punish the breach of his command for they vtterly deny that the King hath any authoritie to punish a Clarke though he should breake his commandement And call you this a command The King may command and goe without as the saying is This is the deuils sophistry taken vp by men hardned against shame content to stoupe downe to gather vp the meanest and basest shifts to dazell the simple The Iesuites resolue of this as of a truth most soundly concluded in their schooles That the King may not punish Ecclesiasticall persons that the Kings Court may not heare examine and iudge them though they should commit murders adulteries robberies or what other wickednesse soeuer And yet they tell vs that the King may command them Now to say one thing and yet to let the world see that they are resolued in the contrary this sauoreth strongly of the spirit of illusion when reason learning honestie and all faileth yet well fare a bold and hardned face which neuer faileth this generation 13. The truth is if the King haue not lawfull authority to punish he hath not lawfull authoritie to command and punish he cannot vnlesse he hath authority to iudge or cause iudgement to be done so that they who take away from the King power to iudge persons Ecclesiasticall take from him power to punish and consequently power to command but the Doctrine of the Papists this day as shall hereafter appeare in his due place taketh from the king power to iudge per sons Ecclesiastical therefore they rob him of power to punish and to cōmaund for nothing can more strongly take away the Kings command then to deny him power to punish and to iudge And yet they are not ashamed to tell vs that they deny not the kings cōmand but his Iurisdiction Then to leaue these men with their absurd and perplexed contradictions where the King ●…ay command he may iudge and punish the breach of that command and therefore his Iurisdiction appeareth in his lawfull authority and command Then by this charge and commaund of Iehosaph●… is declared his Iurisdiction in these causes wherein he hath this authority