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Uniformity in humane doctrinall ceremonies ungrounded on 1 Cor. 14.40. or, a reply unto Dr. Hammonds vindication of his grounds of uniformity from the 1 Cor. 14.40. By Henry Jeanes, minister of Gods word at Chedzoy
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Jeanes, Henry, 1611-1662.
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i_o tell_v you_o be_v a_o conformitâ—ant_n and_o no_o enemy_n unto_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o he_o profess_v of_o himself_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o the_o rhemist_n pag._n 87._o as_o for_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o it_o be_v without_o superstition_n we_o can_v abide_v well_o enough_o and_o yet_o this_o man_n pag._n 252._o tell_v we_o that_o valentinus_n the_o heretic_n be_v the_o first_o that_o make_v any_o great_a account_n of_o it_o and_o cite_v for_o it_o too_o irenaeus_n as_o well_o as_o the_o nonconformist_n a_o three_o exception_n against_o the_o pretend_a antiquity_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n in_o that_o behalf_n be_v that_o divers_a ceremony_n coëval_n with_o the_o cross_n be_v not_o urge_v but_o abolish_v and_o yet_o they_o be_v never_o prostitute_v unto_o such_o superstitious_a and_o idolatrous_a abuse_n as_o the_o cross_n have_v be_v and_o therefore_o why_o shall_v the_o cross_n be_v such_o a_o favourite_n as_o to_o be_v retain_v this_o exception_n you_o may_v see_v thus_o manage_v by_o parker_n part_n 1._o pag._n 39_o if_o our_o opposite_n must_v needs_o drink_v of_o this_o cistern_n of_o antiquity_n then_o let_v the_o baptis_n the_o beat._n rhenan_n in_o tertul_n de_fw-fr coron_n milit_fw-la magdebuâ—gens_fw-la centur_fw-la 3_o cap._n 6._o tit_n rit_fw-fr baptis_n oil_n itself_o of_o baptism_n be_v revive_v yea_o baptist_n yea_o madgeburg_n ex_fw-la tertulde_n baptist_n baptise_v by_o layman_n for_o these_o be_v as_o ancient_a as_o the_o cross_n and_o spring_v about_o the_o same_o time_n with_o it_o sure_o with_o far_o better_a reason_n may_v they_o rake_v out_o of_o their_o grave_n the_o ceremony_n 8._o ceremony_n cypri_n lib._n 3_o epis_n 8._o of_o kiss_v the_o infant_n baptize_v the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o pudicit_fw-la the_o tertul._n de_fw-fr pudicit_fw-la ring_n give_v in_o baptism_n for_o a_o obsignation_n of_o faith_n and_o profession_n the_o ceremony_n of_o put_v milit_fw-la put_v tertul._n lib._n the_o coron_n milit_fw-la milk_n and_o honey_n into_o his_o mouth_n and_o last_o â—he_v ceremony_n of_o the_o milit_fw-la the_o idem_fw-la de_fw-la bapt._n &_o beat._n rhenan_n in_o lib._n de_fw-fr coron_n milit_fw-la white_a garment_n wherewith_o the_o baptise_a be_v wont_a to_o be_v clothe_v these_o be_v equal_a to_o the_o cross_n both_o for_o antiquity_n and_o for_o profitablenesse_n of_o signification_n and_o surmount_v it_o in_o other_o respect_n as_o that_o they_o be_v never_o so_o much_o abuse_v as_o the_o cross_n have_v be_v nor_o now_o import_v so_o much_o peril_n as_o the_o cross_n bring_v eth_z with_o it_o may_v give_v wise_a man_n cause_n to_o wonder_v why_o those_o shall_v be_v bury_v in_o a_o tomb_n seal_v up_o while_o the_o cross_n not_o only_o live_v but_o also_o domineer_v a_o four_o exception_n againsthe_v ancient_a use_n of_o the_o cross_n by_o the_o father_n be_v that_o it_o be_v overbalance_v by_o the_o papist_n abuse_v of_o it_o unto_o idolarâ—y_n the_o brazen_a serpent_n be_v ordain_v by_o god_n and_o yet_o when_o it_o be_v abuse_v unto_o idolatry_n hezekiah_n do_v well_o to_o break_v it_o in_o piece_n 2_o king_n 18.4_o and_o therefore_o the_o cross_n be_v a_o humane_a invention_n altogether_o unnecessary_a in_o god_n worship_n be_v for_o the_o idolattous_a abuse_n of_o it_o right_o abolish_v the_o force_n of_o this_o consequence_n may_v be_v gather_v from_o what_o two_o english_a bishop_n say_v 1._o from_o what_o bishop_n abbot_n have_v from_o a_o translation_n of_o a_o passage_n out_o of_o the_o canon_n law_n defâ—_n of_o mr._n perkins_n part_n 1._o pag._n 168._o if_o our_o predecessor_n have_v do_v some_o thing_n which_o at_o that_o time_n may_v be_v without_o fault_n and_o afterward_o be_v turn_v to_o error_n and_o superstition_n we_o be_v teach_v say_v the_o law_n by_o hezekiahs_n break_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n that_o the_o posterity_n may_v abolish_v the_o same_o without_o any_o delay_n and_o with_o great_a authority_n the_o very_a same_o word_n be_v urge_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n by_o dr._n john_n rainolds_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o hart_n page_n 510._o as_o also_o by_o hooker_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n pag._n 347._o 2._o from_o what_o jewel_n say_v for_o the_o abolition_n of_o image_n because_o of_o their_o adoration_n repl_n to_o harding_n answ_n artic_a 14._o pag_n 383._o the_o best_a remedy_n in_o this_o behalf_n and_o most_o agreeable_a with_o god_n word_n be_v utter_o to_o abolish_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o ill_a so_o the_o godly_a king_n hezechtas_n take_v down_o and_o break_v in_o peâ—ces_n the_o brazen_a serpent_n notwithstanding_o moses_n himself_o by_o god_n special_a commandment_n have_v erect_v it_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v a_o express_a figure_n of_o christ_n hang_v upon_o the_o cross_n notwithstanding_o it_o have_v continue_v so_o many_o year_n notwithstanding_o god_n by_o it_o have_v wrought_v so_o many_o miracle_n so_o the_o godly_a bishop_n epiphaniusâ—ent_v â—ent_z in_o sunder_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n paint_v in_o a_o cloth_n and_o say_v it_o be_v against_o god_n commandment_n a_o thing_n superstitious_a and_o unmeet_a for_o the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v the_o image_n of_o christ_n so_o the_o godly_a emperor_n theodosius_n make_v his_o proclamation_n over_o all_o his_o dominion_n in_o this_o sort_n signum_fw-la servatoris_fw-la nostri_fw-la quocunque_fw-la lâ—co_fw-la reperietur_fw-la toll_n jubemus_fw-la we_o strait_o command_v that_o the_o image_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v take_v down_o in_o what_o place_n soever_o it_o shall_v be_v find_v notwithstanding_o it_o be_v the_o image_n of_o our_o saviour_n so_o it_o be_v decree_v in_o the_o late_a council_n of_o mentz_n that_o when_o image_n happen_v to_o be_v abuse_v by_o the_o people_n they_o be_v either_o notable_o alter_v or_o utter_o abolish_v unto_o these_o two_o i_o shall_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o augustine_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 10._o c._n 8._o aeneum_fw-la sane_fw-la serpentem_fw-la propter_fw-la facti_fw-la memoriam_fw-la reservatum_fw-la cum_fw-la postea_fw-la populus_fw-la errans_fw-la tanquam_fw-la idolum_fw-la colere_fw-la coepisset_fw-la ezechias_n rexâ—eligiosa_n potestate_fw-la deo_fw-la serviens_fw-la cum_fw-la magna_fw-la pâ—eâ—atis_fw-la laud_fw-la contrivit_fw-la suppose_v then_o though_o not_o grant_v that_o the_o ancient_n lawful_o and_o laudable_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o a_o commemorative_n sign_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o a_o monitory_a sign_n of_o their_o duty_n yet_o see_v it_o have_v be_v make_v by_o the_o papist_n such_o a_o abominable_a idol_n there_o be_v very_o good_a reason_n for_o the_o utter_a casheer_v it_o out_o of_o god_n worship_n a_o five_o exception_n be_v that_o our_o cross_n be_v not_o the_o father_n cross_n who_o never_o annex_v any_o word_n unto_o it_o and_o therefore_o we_o be_v the_o more_o sacramental_a for_o this_o see_v aim_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mortons_n particular_a def_n page_n â—7_n as_o also_o mr._n parker_n part_n 1._o pag._n 114._o my_o six_o exception_n i_o shall_v give_v you_o in_o the_o word_n of_o mr._n parker_n part_n 1._o page_n 133._o what_o though_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o father_n who_o use_v the_o cross_n for_o a_o sign_n of_o christ_n be_v on_o all_o side_n good_a the_o time_n do_v differ_v they_o live_v in_o a_o age_n when_o it_o be_v despise_v we_o in_o a_o time_n when_o it_o be_v adore_v they_o in_o a_o time_n when_o it_o profess_v the_o faith_n we_o in_o a_o time_n when_o it_o be_v common_a to_o papist_n they_o in_o a_o time_n when_o it_o be_v use_v over_o all_o the_o church_n for_o the_o sign_n of_o christianity_n we_o in_o a_o age_n when_o out_o of_o our_o own_o church_n it_o be_v not_o where_o use_v but_o for_o a_o sign_n of_o antichristianity_n in_o regard_v whereof_o we_o may_v well_o appeal_v to_o the_o old_a canon_n regulae_fw-la patrum_fw-la traditae_fw-la sunt_fw-la say_v gregory_n prout_fw-la res_fw-la postulare_fw-la videbatur_fw-la temporis_fw-la loci_fw-la personarum_fw-la reique_fw-la iâ—sius_fw-la habitâ_fw-la ratione_fw-la and_o leo_n sâ—cut_fw-la quaedom_n sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la nulla_fw-la possunt_fw-la ratione_fw-la convelli_fw-la ita_fw-la multa_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la necessitate_v temporum_fw-la ac_fw-la consideratione_n aetatum_fw-la â—porteat_fw-la temporari_fw-la but_o i_o shall_v proceed_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o your_o testimony_n apart_o dr._n hammond_n saint_n augustine_n word_n be_v worth_a remember_v and_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o have_v truth_n in_o they_o 118._o they_o in_o joh._n tr._n 118._o signum_fw-la crucis_fw-la nisi_fw-la adhibeatur_fw-la sive_fw-la fâ—ontibus_fw-la credentium_fw-la sive_fw-la ipsi_fw-la aquae_fw-la qua_fw-la regeneramur_fw-la etc._n etc._n nihil_fw-la ritè_fw-la peâ—ficitur_fw-la unlâ—sse_v the_o sigh_o of_o the_o cross_n be_v use_v either_o to_o the_o forehead_n of_o the_o believer_n who_o be_v baptize_v or_o to_o the_o water_n itself_o by_o which_o we_o be_v regenerate_v it_o be_v not_o due_o
in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o sentence_n be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o strict_a signification_n as_o oppose_v only_o to_o the_o vice_n of_o undecency_n now_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o decency_n require_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v hecessary_a to_o the_o avoid_n of_o undecency_n i_o ask_v therefore_o if_o undecency_n in_o god_n worship_n can_v be_v avoid_v without_o double_a treble_a sacred_a significant_a ceremony_n of_o man_n invent_v if_o nor_o than_o the_o apostle_n do_v much_o forget_v themselves_o in_o their_o public_a worship_v of_o god_n before_o man_n have_v invent_v such_o ceremony_n for_o that_o be_v no_o answer_n which_o the_o rejoynd_a after_o give_v all_o church_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a way_n of_o comeliness_n all_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o avoid_v undecency_n and_o to_o do_v that_o which_o decency_n require_v or_o bind_v they_o unto_o if_o yea_o then_o decency_n do_v not_o require_v such_o kind_n of_o ceremony_n neither_o do_v it_o indeed_o any_o more_o than_o order_n so_o mr._n perkins_n lat_fw-la to_o 2._o p._n 888._o decency_n be_v when_o the_o service_n of_o god_n be_v perform_v with_o convenient_a and_o fit_a circumstance_n of_o time_n place_n person_n and_o gesture_n and_o here_o of_o the_o apostle_n speak_v 1_o cor._n 14.40_o the_o plain_a simple_a truth_n without_o ceremonial_a affectation_n be_v that_o decency_n be_v in_o this_o place_n nothing_o but_o good_a civil_a fashion_n agreeable_a not_o only_o to_o worship_n but_o also_o to_o any_o grave_a assembly_n decency_n say_v pareus_n upon_o the_o place_n be_v oppose_v to_o vanity_n sport_n riot_n it_o stand_v not_o in_o hood_n cap_n or_o vizard_n of_o fond_a ceremony_n etc._n etc._n i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o d._n b._n his_o conscience_n if_o baptism_n be_v not_o as_o decent_o administer_v without_o the_o cross_n as_o with_o it_o and_o public_a prayer_n make_v as_o decent_o without_o a_o surplice_n as_o with_o it_o let_v conscience_n here_o speak_v and_o the_o rejoind_a harken_v unto_o it_o will_v without_o all_o doubt_n confess_v that_o decency_n in_o this_o place_n do_v no_o more_o require_v either_o cross_n or_o surplice_n than_o order_n and_o that_o both_o of_o they_o together_o do_v no_o more_o require_v those_o ceremony_n than_o a_o hundred_o other_o which_o in_o england_n though_o not_o at_o rome_n be_v deny_v unto_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n mr._n attersall_n in_o his_o second_o book_n of_o the_o sacrament_n chap._n 5._o say_v well_o if_o they_o refer_v all_o this_o trash_n and_o trumpery_n of_o hamane_a ceremontes_n in_o baptism_n to_o order_v and_o comeliness_n as_o hosius_n do_v do_v they_o not_o thereby_o blasphemous_o accuse_v the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n of_o uncomelinesse_n and_o disorder_n whereas_o the_o comeliness_n and_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n nothing_o be_v more_o comely_a decent_a and_o orderly_o then_o that_o which_o christ_n command_v and_o allow_v nothing_o be_v more_o uncomely_a and_o unseemly_a then_o that_o which_o man_n invent_v in_o the_o service_n of_o god_n and_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n thereby_o invert_v and_o pervert_v the_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n 12._o the_o receive_v definition_n of_o order_n be_v bring_v in_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n by_o the_o reply_o and_o the_o rejoynder_n yield_v so_o much_o as_o they_o import_v viz._n that_o order_n in_o strict_a signification_n do_v not_o imply_v such_o ceremony_n as_o we_o he_o must_v therefore_o either_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o place_n 1_o cor._n 14.40_o that_o word_n be_v not_o take_v strict_o which_o he_o himself_o former_o grant_v or_o give_v up_o the_o place_n which_o be_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n the_o only_a place_n of_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o warrant_v of_o such_o ceremony_n or_o fly_v to_o decency_n upon_o which_o he_o can_v any_o more_o fasten_v then_o upon_o order_n as_o haâ—h_v be_v show_v nothing_o material_a be_v add_v in_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o rejoynd_a his_o answer_n unto_o this_o argument_n where_o our_o divine_n be_v observe_v to_o distinguish_v order_n and_o decency_n from_o mystical_a ceremony_n the_o context_n of_o the_o chapter_n 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v declare_v to_o respect_n nâ—_n mystical_a ceremony_n the_o phrase_n of_o scripture_n be_v show_v to_o consent_v nothing_o i_o say_v and_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v be_v add_v but_o only_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v repeat_v about_o order_n and_o decency_n which_o be_v now_o sufficient_o discuss_v so_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o the_o contrary_a but_o that_o we_o may_v safe_o conclude_v ergo_fw-la to_o appoint_v and_o use_v the_o ceremony_n as_o we_o do_v be_v not_o leave_v to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n i._n e._n it_o be_v unlawful_a if_o there_o be_v nothing_o else_o against_o they_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n than_o this_o place_n beside_o which_o the_o defend_v and_o rejoynd_a can_v find_v none_o in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o they_o any_o indifferent_a man_n will_v say_v they_o be_v not_o allow_v those_o that_o be_v devote_v to_o the_o ceremony_n may_v shuffle_v up_o and_o down_o first_o to_o oâ—der_v and_o when_o they_o be_v beat_v thence_o to_o decency_n and_o from_o decency_n when_o they_o can_v defend_v that_o no_o long_o to_o edification_n as_o the_o rejoynd_a do_v but_o all_o will_v not_o help_v let_v they_o pitch_v or_o insist_v upon_o one_o of_o these_o ground_n without_o start_v i_o will_v pawn_v my_o head_n their_o aâ—â—hor_n will_v come_v home_o to_o they_o again_o as_o find_v no_o fast_a ground_n either_o in_o order_n decency_n or_o edification_n for_o double_v significant_a ceremony_n such_o as_o oâ—rs_n to_o ride_v at_o the_o defend_v can_v frame_v no_o consequence_n out_o of_o any_o of_o these_o word_n the_o rejoynd_a say_v there_o be_v one_o but_o he_o can_v show_v it_o to_o the_o contrary_a consequence_n nothing_o be_v answer_v of_o any_o moment_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o miserable_a cause_n which_o have_v no_o place_n in_o all_o the_o n._n testament_n which_o the_o best_a advocate_n can_v allege_v for_o it_o but_o only_o that_o out_o of_o which_o it_o be_v utter_o confound_v to_o the_o defend_v and_o rejoinder_n maintain_v such_o a_o cause_n this_o testimony_n may_v be_v give_v that_o they_o will_v willing_o so_o far_o as_o they_o can_v favour_n thing_n which_o the_o time_n favour_n and_o therefore_o strive_v to_o make_v something_o of_o that_o which_o make_v nothing_o for_o they_o in_o the_o former_a section_n when_o order_n decency_n and_o edification_n shall_v have_v be_v handle_v as_o rule_n according_a to_o the_o title_n of_o the_o digression_n the_o rejoynder_n sudden_o break_v off_o refer_v they_o to_o a_o fit_a place_n now_o here_o in_o this_o place_n he_o be_v constrain_v to_o touch_v upon_o they_o but_o so_o soft_o and_o spare_o that_o it_o appear_v he_o find_v this_o no_o fit_a place_n than_o the_o former_a for_o those_o reserve_a consideration_n when_o shall_v we_o come_v to_o the_o fit_a place_n by_o this_o i_o hope_v the_o reader_n be_v satisfy_v that_o there_o be_v more_o in_o ames_n his_o argument_n than_o you_o imagine_v and_o think_v that_o you_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o slight_v it_o before_o you_o have_v see_v it_o i_o will_v ready_o acknowledge_v that_o you_o be_v faâ—e_v his_o superior_a for_o your_o incomparable_a skill_n in_o critical_a learning_n and_o antiquity_n and_o all_o the_o world_n will_v account_v i_o a_o fool_n to_o say_v or_o think_v otherwise_o but_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o blasphemy_n to_o say_v that_o he_o be_v not_o much_o your_o inferior_a for_o logic_n philosophy_n and_o scholastical_a divinity_n in_o which_o latter_a he_o be_v neore_o verse_v than_o most_o of_o our_o protestant_a writer_n comparison_n i_o know_v be_v odious_a buâ—â—_n apologise_v for_o a_o dead_a man_n and_o therefore_o i_o hope_v i_o shall_v be_v hold_v excuse_v indeed_o his_o memory_n â—â—ght_n to_o be_v precious_a with_o i_o for_o though_o i_o dissent_v from_o he_o in_o some_o thing_n yet_o i_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o in_o my_o first_o study_n of_o divinity_n i_o most_o profit_v by_o he_o i_o have_v often_o find_v in_o a_o few_o word_n of_o his_o that_o satisfaction_n which_o i_o in_o vain_a search_v for_o in_o more_o voluminous_a discourse_n i_o know_v that_o he_o have_v be_v contemn_v by_o many_o but_o it_o have_v be_v by_o learned_a man_n that_o never_o read_v he_o or_o by_o ignorant_a reader_n that_o never_o understand_v he_o and_o indeed_o unto_o those_o that_o have_v not_o make_v some_o tolerable_a progress_n in_o philosophy_n he_o will_v be_v in_o many_o place_n