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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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because in it I see very many admirable to the whole world for wisdome sanctimony miracles and the spirit of prophesy whome it is impossible to haue byn in a matter so important deceyued for that I see that God himselfe hath and doth in euery age giue testimony of it by many mi●acles because I see Gods promises fulfilled in it as being dispersed and spread all the world ouer Vnto it haue the Gentils byn hitherto conuerted and still continually are In it there hath been in all ages exce●●●ing concord and consent of Doctors in the grounds of fayth In it hath byn and still is a perpetuall succession of the Chaire and a continuance in the ministers therof from the Aposties In it is a speedy decision of all con●rouersyes It hath for so many ages stood immoueable against all heresyes and persecutions of Tyrants neyther could the gates of hell any thing preuayle against it whiles all the contraryes be found in the new Religions And therefore I had no reason at all to reuolt from this religion or to make any doubt of it at all But to omit further to prosecute other things of this kind is it not inough for my security that I am sure that I haue followed that religion in which I see men of most holy life and most celebrated for miracles S. Malachy S. Bernard S. Dominicke S. Francis and alothers who were fyue hundred yeares synce by their heauenly conuersation wonderfull works an admiration to the world to haue lyued and died For most cleare it is that those celestiall soules so addicted and deuoted to God so deare and familyar to him could not possibly be deceyued in a matter of so great consequence And therefore in this cause of religion and fayth I securely follow such captaynes guides that haue gone before me But now tell me you who haue imbraced another religion what reckoning can you giue of that your deed when you shall in that dreadfull examen be asked about it You will perhaps answe●e the iudge What wil an Heretike answere I did therefore forsake the Catholike fayth because I thought it full of Idolatry superstitions and humane traditions because I thought that Antichrist did command and beare sway in it because I thought the Catholikes did rely vpon their owne meritts and not vpon the price of thy bloud But what if the Diuells bewitching you which now hath a possession of your mind should then be taken away you should plainely see your selfe deceyued what counsaile would you take for then there will not be any more tyme for pennance and repentance Will you peraduenture alleadge ignorance But that wil not excuse you because you might easily haue knowne the truth if you had vsed the diligence that you were bound to do in so important a matter Neyther euer wanted you iust reason of doubting which should haue moued you to seeke for resolution Wherefore as it shall not excuse the Iewes that they erred of ignorance because they might haue knowne the truth so shall it not excuse you For that you might without syn depart from the Catholike Church it was your part not only to thinke and vpon certaine light suspitions to conceyue but also most certainely to know and setting aside all affection to be most assured that there were those euills in the Catholike religion so as there might be left no further scruple in your mind nor any iust cause of doubting in the matter But you were so far from hauing such a certitude touching the Churches errors as you had not any probable reason to perswade you to the contrary For by what probability or pretence of truth could you be persuaded to thinke that that religion was obnoxious to Idolatry and to so great errors which you saw imbraced for so many ages of so many men renowned for their wisdome holynes of life Which you saw honoured with such so great and many miracles martyrdomes Which you saw spread all the world ouer In which there was an exceeding conspiration and concord of the Doctors a perpetuall succession and a most manifest and knowne continuance from the Apostles How can it possibly be that none of the Doctors nor no holy man did for so many ages togeather note and obserue this Idolatry these superstitions and errors Againe how could you perswade your selfe that that is Christs true religion that maketh God the author and mouer yea compeller to all wickednes that spoyleth men of the liberty of free will that taketh away the care of exercising of good works that openeth a most wide gate to al manner of wickednes as doth Atheisme that vnder shew of Christian liberty exempteth and freeth the subiects from the lawes and obedience to their Princes that reuiueth and bringeth many ancient and condemned heresyes to light againe the authors whereof be not recommended for any austerity conuersation or sanctimony of life nor celebrated for any miracles but mē giuen to the pleasures of the flesh couetous of things of the world ambitious foule spoken seditious infamous for Apostasy and sacrilegious Mariages giuen ouer to lust and withall wonderfully inconstant in doctrine Finally if any of these new vpstart Religions be true then there was not any religion of Christ for so many ages past Christs Kingdome was ruyned and ouerthrowne Gods promises touching the stability and continuance of his Church were made voide the gates of hell preuayled against it The Gospell was then for so many hundreds of yeares preached in vaine in vaine was it beleeued in vaine were so many conuerted from paganisme in vaine were Baptisme other Sacraments administred in vaine were fasts kept and mortifications of the flesh practised in vaine were martyrdomes endured and the bloud of so many thousands shed for the confession of Christs name Therefore all those of our religion who are gone before vs are perished so many thousands of martyrs Confessors so many soules consecrated to God celebrated for holynes miracles and the spirit of prophesy For all of them had not any part of true religion in them nor true iustice and all were giuen to Idolatry But if all this be false blasphemous and euen horrible to thinke how could it be that you could not think that those religions out of which so horrible things are manifestly deduced might be false or at least that you doubted not of thē And if you doubted wherefore laboured you not to vnderstād the truth on which your whole soules good dependeth Our Lord admonished that we should carefully take heed of false Prophets who come vnto vs in sheepes cloathing and inwardly be rauening wolues Matth. 7. How did it not come at one tyme or other into your mind to thinke and to feare least Luther Caluin Menno and the like were of the number of them of whome our Lord premonished vs to beware For these men vnder a glorious shew of Gods word and of the pure Gospell presented themselues vnto the world
as sent of God for the sauing of the sheep and in the meane tyme they destroyed the sheep with the poysoned foode of their doctrine By their fruits sayth our Lord you ●hall know them And what fruite is this Seditions warres the spoyling and ouerthrowing of Churches and Monasteryes the ruining of Cittyes the abolishing of ancient piety and deuotion the giuing scope to all enormityes and wickednes We know by testimony of the Apostle that many heresyes shall rise in the latter tymes and that many false Prophets and seducers shall by the instigation of Sathan shew themselues Wherefore as often as any new doctrine that opposeth it self against the Church putteth the head forth we must at least suspect it together with the Author therof Wherefore I desire beseech all The conclusion of the whole worke that be out of the Catholike Church by the goodnes of God whereby we be created and by Christs bloud wherwith we are redeemed by the euerlasting inheritance which we expect in heauen and by that torrent and full measure of Diuine pleasure wherwith they shall be there made drūke who shall perseuere in truth and iustice to the end that they would apprehend and conceyue of this busynes throughly and attentiuely consider whether they stand vpon a solid and sound foundation whether they are likely to be secure touching their religion at their houre of death and when they shall stand before the Tribunall of Christ in that instant of tyme when an eternall and immutable sentence is to be receyued Let them examine this our Consultation which we haue written to that end Let them not rest vntill they shall haue duly discussed all and gotten the plaine euidency in a busynes so greatly importing them Let then thinke how great a punishment attendeth on them if the religion that they hold be heresy themselues be heretiks And that it is heresy and a most pestilent one indeed all Catholike Doctors all Vniuersityes and all the Christian world excepting those who follow it the number of whome compared with others is very little their learning very meane do hold for vndoubted and most certaine in so much as an infinite number there be who be ready to dye and to expose the euerlasting saluation of their soules for confession therof And in very deed Heresy is a most grieuous syn First How great a syn Heresy is because it is the cause that a man preferreth his owne iudgment before that of all the Fathers of all the Doctors of the Church of all Councells and of all the Bishops of the whole world For he contemneth them all as men destitute and deuoid of Gods spirit which he arrogateth to himselfe alone and to others his like and therein a wonder it is how great pride there is Secondly he censureth Christs Spouse which is the Church to haue cōmitted adultery with Sathan to be the child of perdition Thirdly he chargeth it with the cryme of Idolatry and with diuers superstitions Fourthly he casteth forth many blasphemies against the holy Eucharist and Gods Saints Fiftly he handleth al holy sacred things after a most vnworthy manner Sixthly he calleth Christs Vicar on earth Antichrist calumniateth and reproacheth him a thousand wayes without any colour of truth at all The same doth he with al degrees orders of the Church To be short euery Heretike hath a good will to ouerthrow the whole Church and to extinguish al Catholike religion Thus you see that the heresy of our age contayneth extreme pride many foule blasphemyes How grieuous punishment heresie deserueth many calumnies slaunders and most iniurious proceedings many sacriledges and an extreme deadly hatred against Christs Church For all these euills and many more be intrinsecally in heresy and it habitually inclineth vnto them dayly doth euen actually moue and dryue vnto them So do all Doctors of the Catholike Church hold of Heresy and the thing is more then plaine of it selfe as experience teacheth And therefore Heresy consorted with these her Impes and ofspring is a greater syn then be an infinite number of sinnes of Catholikes And now according to what we haue said let them I beseech you dayly weigh and consider how great will be the punishment of this sinne ad Gal. 5. Col. ● 1. Cor. 6. 1. Tim. 1. c. For if but for one sinne of theft or of fornication vnles a man here help himselfe by the antidote of pennance he is to endure fire euerlasting as the Scripture teacheth what and how great paine and punishment is he to expect for the sinne of heresy which exceedeth a thousand thefts and a thousand fornications If the paine that our fire naturally inflicteth should be a thousand tymes more hoate and schorching then now it is and one were cast into it how sore incomprehensible and insufferable a paine would it be Let none flatter himselfe that there shall not be in that placee the paine of fire but onely I know not what terrors of God incensed with anger as Caluin feigneth But this assertion of his is ouer plainely repugnant to Scripture Math. 25. Marc. 9. Psal 10. Psal 20. A pocal 20. for as much as it sayth Goe yee into fire euerlasting Againe Their worme dyeth not and the fire is not quenched Againe He shall vpon sinners raine snares fire and brimstome and the spirit of tempests shall be the part of their cup. Thou shall put them as a fornace of fire in the time of thine anger Our Lord in his anger shall trouble them and fire shall deuour them The false Prophet was throwne into a poole of fire and of brimstone The same is the opinion of all the ancient doctors besides wherefore we must hold for certaine that there shal be a true fire there more intensiue and more scorching then our fire here wherein all heretiks shall burne and shall be tormented both day and night for all eternity as long as there shall be an hell as long as heauen shall stand and as long as God shall liue who dyeth not And the smoke of their torments shall ascend in the sight of our Lord for euer and euer These words be most faythfull and true Then shall they accurse them who deceiued them and their maisters by whome they were drawn and brought into that misery They shall accurse the deuill who blinded their eyes that they saw not the truth and vnder a pretence of piety diuersely bewitched them They shall also accurse themselues for giuing eare vnto them for so foolishly imbracing a new doctrine without diligently examining it before and for hauing been so blind negligent and slouthfull in discussion of a matter that so neerely concerned them Wherefore to the end they may not cast themselues headlong into this gulfe and sea of miseries let them with all care study and diligence examine this whole busines of religion and there about vse the counsaile and aduise of men of greatest wisdom learning
the most certaine and only way to life euerlasting and none there is who strayeth out of it that is not most assured to runne into euerlasting perdition It is a Doctrine of Atheisme that euery one may be saued in his owne religion But as there is one God one Christ one truth one certitude one iustice so there is one fayth and one religion and one Church or Congregation of God and Christ out of which there can be no Saluation Let them take heede that they spoyle not themselues of so great a good eyther out of a curiosity of reading or hearing or by an improuident and vncircumspect conuersation with heretiks or out of a desire of pleasing and contenting some or for feare of some hurt in temporall life also or out of an hope of commodity and gaine or for desire of honors or for any other cause What profiteth it a man if he gayne the whole world and suffer the detryment of his soule or what exchaunge shall a man giue for his soule But he that sustayneth hurt in his religion cannot but hurt his soule withall and therefore let him not be afraid to expose all for the retayning of it the loosing and forgoing whereof is the losse of life euerlasting withall Vnhappy be those soules and vnworthy a Christian name that make but a little reckouing of the ouerthrow of the Catholike religion so they may themselues enioy temporall peace for the gathering and keeping of the poore things and trifles of this life This madnes and light estceme of so great a good will cost them deare when this short time moment of life shall be once past and they shall vpon the suddaine be brought to that eternity that neuer endeth Many seducers haue come into the world many do vnder a sheeps skyn and vnder a faire flattering shew of Gods word hide and conceale their woluish fury to the vtter ruine of Christs sheep Our Lord admonished vs more thē once to take heed of them the Apostles inculcated no lesse as did the holy Fathers also He Eccl. 13. Eccl. 3. that shall touch pitch shall be defiled of it he that loueth dāger shal perish therein The times were neuer more trecherous to mans saluation then now they be the deuill was neuer more frequent in bewitching and deceiuing men were neuer more easily caried away with the spirit of incōstancy the operatiō working of errour neuer of more force finally mens minds neuer more fouly blinded then now all these do worthily seize vpō their minds who do make a light esteeme of that noble and great gift of the Catholike and Orthodoxe Religion prefer their temporall and externall goods before it Wherefore let them who make a reckoning of their owne saluation conserue this beauenly gemme and keep it with all diligence for that of it proceedeth life And because it is a supernaturall gift which can neyther be obtayned nor kept and held without Gods help whiles so many and so great daungers and enemyes beset vs on all sides they mustimplore and craue help at Gods hands incessantly to that end both for themselues their children and their family and seeke to appease God by almes and other offices of piety For good is prayer with fasting almes Tob. 12. and better then to lay vp treasures of gold Let them lead a life correspondent to their religion let them quench their thirst of terrene things with the expectation of the celestiall and euerlasting goods euer mind●ull of that saying of the Apostle 1. Timoth. 6. They that will become rich fall into temptation and into the snares of the Diuell many vnprofitable and hurtfull desires which drowne a man into destruction and perdition For the roote of all euill is desire which some coueting haue strared from the fayth and thrust themselues into many sorrowes With these helps they may walke on in safety amidst the daungers of these tymes conserue and maintayne vnstayned the gift of the true and only Religion and by it with facility and case purchase life euerlasting to which God of his infinite mercy bring vs all Amen FINIS AN APPENDIX TO THE FORMER CONSVLTATION WHETHER Euery One may be saued in his owne Fayth and Religion WRITTEN By the same Leonard Lessius of the Society of IESVS Permissu Superiorum M.DC.XVIII THE PREFACE WEe haue before in the Preface of our Consultation set downe and briefely confuted a certaine grosse error which holdeth it inough for our saluatiō to belieue in Christ and that he died for our sinnes But because it is much spread and hath sunke deeply into the minds of many I was requested to treate of the matter more at large and therefore now I will deuide it into two seuerall Questions bringing arguments for eyther part The first Question shal be VVhether it be sufficient for saluation to belieue in God and do no man iniury which is as much to say as Whether euery man may be saued in his owne Faith which he professeth if therin he endeauour to liue honestly The second Question VVhether it be sufficiēt to saluatiō to belieue in Christ that he dyed for our sinnes although we belieue not many other articles of faith THE I. QVESTION CONCERNING the first Question many in these tymes do hold are of opinion that euery man may be saued in his owne religion The ground of ou● Aduersaries opinions their principall reasō wherwith they are moued to this is because it seemeth vnto them incredible that al Iewes and Turkes many of whom do deuoutly worship God and deale iustly with their neyghbours should perish for all eternity only because they haue not belieued in Christ especially since for want of this beliefe they seeme not to deserue much blame they being from their infancy trayned vp in a religion different from Christianity For why say they should God who would all men to be saued so strayten the way vnto heauen why should those miserable souls who according to their capacity do their best to please him do wrong to no man and do lead a iust and honest life be condemned to eternall payne for the ignorance of that thing wherein they were neuer sufficiently instructed The I. Reason But this opinion of theirs The same refu●ed by foure Reasons although in naturall reason it may seeme to carry some colour of truth and equity yet considering those thinges which are reuealed vnto vs in holy Scriptures it is a meere Paradox For if euery Turke and Iew may be saued in their beliefe then iuvaine haue the Apostles and holy Fathers so much laboured in preaching planting of the Christian faith In vaine so many Martyres by all manner kind of torments haue shed their bloud and spent their life in the confession therof For they might haue abstayned from this doctrine profession without any preiudice to their saluation and haue rested contented with the Iewes in the profession and