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A12700 A brotherly persvvasion to vnitie, and vniformitie in iudgement, and practise touching the receiued, and present ecclesiasticall gouernment, and the authorised rites and ceremonies of the Church of England. VVritten by Thomas Sparke Doctor in Diuinitie. And seene, allowed, and commended by publike authoritie to be printed Sparke, Thomas, 1548-1616. 1607 (1607) STC 23019.5; ESTC S102433 84,881 104

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in the name of the child they professing and desiring what is it but in the true meaning of the booke in Christian charitie and hope so to do for that they are perswaded that if the child were of age it would euen so do professe desire therfore that they in the mean time do so in the name therof in full expectation that when it shall it will account that by them it selfe so did that so the Couenant betwixt God and it may in this Sacrament stand ratified therein And yet in some sence according to Christs saying Math. 18. it might well bee defended that such little ones beleeue in him as habitually they are reasonable not actually CHAP. 12. Answering diuerse obiections against the booke touching baptisme and other things there ordained ANd seeing by Christs baptisme and his ordaining of this sacrament water was alloted to be the outward part therein why may we not according to the booke both say and thinke that therby the water of the flood Iordan wherin he and others were baptised and all other water was indeed sanctified meaning as the outward element in a sacrament by the institution therof was and is thereby sanctified for that vse to the mysticall washing away of sin As for that which is further obiected against that which is set downe in the foresaid parte of the Catechisme touching two sacraments only generally necessary to saluation the meaning onely is that there are only 2 such taking a sacrament properly as thereafter it is defyned and that they two are necessary so to saluation as by no means without danger therof they may be contemned or neglected and that for all christians first or last yong or old and then what iust exception can there be made at all against that So also by the order that is now takē in the booke that the lawfull minister only shall priuately baptise the child the old obiection against the conditional baptising of it after in the case mentioned in the booke is sufficiently taken away for now that will neuer neede to be put in vse And as for the ring vsed in mariage the words with my bodie I the worship or the resēblance that it is said there to haue of the spirituall marriage betwixt Christ and his church I finde not that any seeme greatly to stand at any or at all of these And if they should surely they could not therin finde any iust cause for the ring is but giuen taken as a ciuill token betwixt the parties that are maried of the promise and couenant that therein they make one to the other and the word worship there vsed doth but import that worship or honor that growes vnto the woman by marriage in that thereby man is so made her head that she hath in the phrase and sense of the Apostle thereby also such a right of ouer and in his bodie that thenceforth it is not his owne as it was before which whiles by marying of her he intitles her vnto very truly hee may say in that sense that with his bodie he doth her worship and finding the holy ghost so oft hath taken delight vnder the shadow of marriage betwixt man and woman to set forth vnto vs the spirituall marriage betwixt Christ and his Church the speech in the booke beeing to bee vnderstood no otherwise but as hauing reference onely thereunto as indeed iustly it cannot no iust fault can be found thereat Now as for all the rest of the obiections alledged against precise conformity in the practise of the booke from certaine words phrases in sundry prayers and parts thereof which seeme hardly and harshly to be set downe yea so as without some alteration they cannot well be so vsed to helpe vs in that we are to call to mind againe his Maiesties pleasure as I noted in the beginning of this treatise most gratiously deliuered vs in the conclusion of the conference that hee would haue vs to take euery thing in the best sense we could for in that sense only he would haue vs to vnderstand that he vrged them to be vsed and yeelded vnto for in this case we but so doing there is nothing so hardly set downe but that taking it and explaining it as the very booke meanes it and as the publikly professed and authorised doctrine of our Church doth lead vs the offence thereat will be remoued 2 Then secondly howsoeuer some now so the better to countenance their refusall to yeeld this conformity though in some sort they haue seemed better to like thereof heretofore perswade themselues would also perswade others that now they are more strictly bound to follow in euery thing the precise letter of the Booke then before by the new Canons and the declared meaning therein of the Church in that respect we are to vnderstand that both contrarie to his Maiesties foresaid declared pleasure in that point and contrarie indeed both to the meaning of the booke and those Canons it is so conceiued for if that were so that now vpon no circumstance or due consideration the precise letter thereof might be altered at any time then we should neyther burie baptize nor visite any but males and though there be but one to be baptised we should yet alwaies vse the plurall number in speaking thereof for so onely runs the letter of our booke yea that more is if conformitie now vrged bound vs to such a precise and strict following the very letter of our booke in euery thing then thereby we should be bound to breed the Bishops and the whole state more trouble by our exact so doing then they breed any by the vrging of it For by the last rubricke in marriage euery married couple should receiue the Communion that day and by an other euen the last also in the tract of confirmation it is flatly set downe that none are to be admitted vnto the holy communion vntill such time as they can say that Cathechisme and bee confirmed for all wise men will and may easily conceiue that if our conformity bound vs so strictly to the letter of the book that by force of these two Canons no Papists or Brownists that refuse vtterly to communicate with vs nor any else that cannot both say the whole Catechisme and were not confirmed also might by any minister of this Church lawfully be married what inconueniences soeuer otherwise grew thereof and likewise that all vnconfirmed old and yong man and woman noble and ignoble should be held from the communion vntill they could all say the Catechisme and were also confirmed there being therefore so few in comparison of the rest that are thus qualified what a stirre would this breede Ministers in most places should haue far lesse to doe then they haue in marrying and in ministring of the Communion and the Bishops would be driuen to spend all their time and liuing in confirming of the vnconfirmed or the whole land would mightily be disquieted in running and seeking