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A64087 The general history of England, as well ecclesiastical as civil. Vol. I from the earliest accounts of time to the reign of his present Majesty King William : taken from the most antient records, manuscripts, and historians : containing the lives of the kings and memorials of the most eminent persons both in church and state : with the foundations of the noted monasteries and both the universities / by James Tyrrell. Tyrrell, James, 1642-1718. 1696 (1696) Wing T3585; ESTC R32913 882,155 746

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