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A33252 Truth with time, or, Certain reasons proving that none of the seven last plagues or vials are yet poured out neither will the time of their pouring out begin till after the rising of the two witnesses and the fourty months of the Beast's reign be expired : likewise an answer to the said reasons with a reply further the author hath here set down (in a brief exposition) his opinion of the first vial / by John Canne. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1656 (1656) Wing C443A; ESTC R23893 78,059 119

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for_o the_o witness_n to_o prophesy_v in_o sackcloth_n which_o time_n must_v be_v expire_v before_o they_o be_v slay_v in_o their_o testimony_n again_o their_o witness_n be_v slay_v they_o must_v lie_v so_o long_o unbury_v to_o be_v brief_a this_o late_a apostasy_n can_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o 2_o witness_n prophesy_v in_o sackcloth_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o last_o day_n nor_o after_o their_o rise_n for_o then_o this_o first_o vial_n be_v to_o be_v pour_v upon_o that_o earth_n as_o the_o subject_a of_o it_o therefore_o of_o necessity_n neither_o before_n nor_o after_o it_o must_v contemporize_v with_o the_o 3_o day_n and_o a_o half_a so_o that_o three_o year_n and_o a_o half_a be_v the_o whole_a time_n of_o the_o late_a apostasy_n answerable_a to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o slay_a witness_n 2._o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v perilous_a time_n shall_v come_v or_o hard_o terrible_a grievous_a or_o difficult_a this_o must_v be_v understand_v of_o a_o state_n or_o government_n not_o of_o single_a person_n who_o have_v no_o rule_n or_o authority_n in_o their_o hand_n but_o as_o the_o first_o apostasy_n or_o beast_n be_v a_o state_n kingdom_n dominion_n so_o be_v the_o other_o my_o reason_n be_v 1._o to_o apply_v the_o place_n to_o single_a and_o inconsiderable_a person_n though_o lover_n of_o themselves_o covetous_a proud_a etc._n etc._n this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o have_v be_v in_o all_o age_n before_o and_o so_o to_o put_v something_o impertinent_a and_o absurd_a upon_o the_o holy_a spirit_n neither_o 2._o will_v the_o time_n be_v terrible_a for_o what_o hurt_n or_o damage_n can_v the_o witness_n suffer_v by_o a_o few_o naked_a and_o unarmed_a person_n as_o to_o the_o slay_v of_o it_o it_o must_v therefore_o to_o be_v terrible_a be_v understand_v as_o i_o say_v of_o a_o state-apostacy_n and_o so_o indeed_o it_o will_v be_v terrible_a and_o hard_a against_o the_o witness_n slay_v it_o outright_o and_o let_v it_o lie_v like_o a_o dead_a body_n in_o the_o 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be_v make_v sensible_a of_o none_o will_v be_v more_o ready_a to_o join_v avowed_o with_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o worst_a of_o his_o instrument_n to_o accomplish_v their_o rage_n against_o the_o suffer_a saint_n of_o christ_n hence_o the_o beast_n be_v say_v to_o ascend_v out_o of_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n rev._n 11.17_o therefore_o terrible_a to_o the_o witness_n last_o the_o more_o perilous_a because_o the_o grand_a apostasy_n of_o the_o last_o time_n shall_v be_v clothe_v over_o with_o a_o form_n of_o godliness_n 2_o tim._n 3.5_o hence_o the_o beast_n have_v slay_v the_o witness_n in_o church_n and_o church-officer_n by_o promotion_n honour_n great_a place_n etc._n etc._n he_o will_v make_v use_n of_o these_o person_n to_o slay_v it_o in_o other_o i_o say_v by_o their_o mouth_n pen_n example_n to_o murder_v it_o outright_o in_o all_o place_n 6._o to_o open_v the_o word_n a_o little_a further_o and_o the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o city_n fall_v and_o in_o the_o earthquake_n be_v slay_v of_o man_n seven_o thousand_o and_o the_o remnant_n be_v affright_v and_o give_v glory_n to_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n rev._n 11.13_o there_o be_v four_o effect_n of_o this_o vial._n 1._o it_o reach_v to_o the_o carnal_a church_n ministry_n worship_n and_o government_n as_o be_v part_n of_o the_o apostasy_n and_o which_o join_v with_o the_o beast_n in_o slay_v the_o witness_n this_o be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o word_n ten_o wherein_o the_o holy_a ghost_n close_o intimate_v how_o the_o rise_n of_o this_o earth-apostacy_n so_o far_o as_o the_o clergy_n be_v concern_v in_o it_o and_o shall_v be_v carry_v forth_o with_o madness_n not_o zeal_n like_o paul_n when_o he_o be_v a_o persecutor_n to_o slay_v the_o witness_n both_o in_o themselves_o and_o other_o it_o will_v be_v for_o the_o ten_o for_o otherwise_o they_o will_v not_o nave_n make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n in_o betray_v so_o glorious_a a_o cause_n to_o set_v up_o that_o shame_n and_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v the_o ten_o fall_v in_o scripture_n very_o usual_a fall_v be_v take_v for_o slay_v so_o the_o word_n signify_v in_o gen._n 14.10_o josh_n 8.24_o 25._o judg._n 8.10_o and_o many_o other_o place_n in_o chron._n 21.15_o it_o be_v say_v there_o fell_a of_o israel_n for_o which_o in_o 2_o sam._n 24.15_o it_o be_v write_v there_o die_v and_o probable_a as_o this_o ten_o will_v be_v a_o main_a cause_n of_o slay_v the_o witness_n so_o when_o the_o witness_n shall_v stand_v upon_o their_o foot_n some_o eminent_a death_n will_v be_v execute_v upon_o it_o we_o to_o he_o that_o covet_v a_o evil_a covetousness_n to_o his_o house_n hab._n 2.9_o behold_v thy_o end_n be_v come_v and_o the_o measure_n of_o thy_o covetousness_n jer._n 51.13_o 2._o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o earthquake_n be_v slay_v name_n of_o man_n seven_o thousand_o that_o be_v man_n of_o note_n renown_n famous_a gen._n 6.4_o contrary_n hereto_o be_v man_n without_o name_n job_n 30.8_o it_o seem_v to_o allude_v to_o the_o rebellion_n of_o corah_n dathan_n and_o abiram_n with_o certain_a of_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n 250_o prince_n of_o the_o congregation_n the_o call_v of_o the_o assembly_n man_n of_o name_n numb_a 16.2_o worthy_a ainsworth_n here_o note_v that_o these_o be_v statesman_n famous_a and_o renown_a whereby_o the_o conspiracy_n be_v the_o strong_a but_o what_o become_v of_o these_o man_n of_o name_n they_o be_v slay_v by_o a_o earthquake_n numb_a 16.32_o 33._o here_o may_v be_v mean_v soldier_n and_o lawyer_n as_o priest_n before_o 3._o and_o the_o remnant_n be_v affright_v etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o find_v the_o like_a effect_n of_o any_o vial_n after_o no_o give_v glory_n to_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n but_o blaspheme_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n rev._n 16.9_o 11_o 21._o the_o reason_n may_v be_v because_o the_o subject_a of_o this_o vial_n be_v earth_n that_o be_v a_o mere_a earthly_a and_o carnal_a interest_n and_o so_o no_o part_n of_o the_o beast_n dominion_n i_o mean_v not_o so_o proper_o and_o direct_o as_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o other_o vial_n hence_o this_o earth-apostacy_n be_v not_o obey_v for_o love_n and_o conscience_n but_o either_o of_o fear_n or_o for_o some_o worldly_a advantage_n and_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n there_o will_v be_v a_o remnant_n howsoever_o with_o it_o before_o see_v it_o swallow_v up_o in_o the_o earthquake_n shall_v bless_v god_n for_o it_o and_o say_v haleluia_o salvation_n and_o glory_n and_o honour_n and_o power_n unto_o the_o lord_n our_o god_n the_o last_o effect_n be_v in_o rev._n 16.2_o and_o there_o fall_v a_o noisome_a and_o grievous_a sore_n upon_o the_o man_n which_o have_v the_o mark_n of_o the_o beast_n and_o upon_o they_o which_o worship_v his_o image_n here_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o these_o have_v the_o mark_v of_o the_o beast_n and_o so_o distinct_a from_o the_o remnant_n before_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o vial_n extend_v further_a than_o the_o subject_a and_o therefore_o whereas_o 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much_o in_o word_n as_o matter_n if_o well_o consider_v 4._o in_o chap._n 16.4_o the_o angel_n pour_v out_o his_o vial_n upon_o the_o water_n and_o they_o become_v blood_n but_o chap._n 11._o the_o witness_n have_v power_n over_o the_o water_n to_o turn_v they_o into_o blood_n it_o be_v not_o say_v they_o smite_v the_o water_n or_o that_o the_o water_n be_v turn_v into_o blood_n what_o may_v be_v gather_v be_v one_o thing_n but_o the_o phrase_n be_v not_o alike_o 5._o if_o the_o place_n be_v so_o alike_o in_o phrase_n why_o be_v they_o make_v so_o unlike_a in_o exposition_n the_o first_o vial_n be_v apply_v to_o waldo_n wickliff_n luther_n as_o smite_v the_o beast_n with_o their_o mouth_n and_o pen_n the_o second_o and_o three_o to_o soldier_n and_o army_n and_o so_o kill_a man_n with_o their_o sword_n and_o gun_n answ_n 3._o because_o the_o egyptian_a plague_n allude_v to_o be_v begin_v by_o the_o two_o witness_n moses_n &_o aaron_n before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o captivity_n or_o sojourn_v in_o egypt_n and_o it_o be_v very_o evident_a this_o have_v such_o a_o allusion_n rev._n 11.8_o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n call_v this_o forty_o and_o two_o month_n egypt_n also_o repl._n if_o the_o egyptian_a plague_n by_o moses_n and_o aaron_n the_o two_o witness_n be_v all_o pour_v out_o before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o captivity_n then_o follow_v the_o allusion_n all_o the_o vial_n shall_v be_v pour_v out_o whilst_o the_o witness_n be_v in_o sackcloth_n and_o to_o say_v truth_n to_o take_v it_o otherwise_o it_o destroy_v the_o life_n and_o light_n of_o the_o argument_n for_o if_o the_o vial_n begin_v before_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o witness_n then_o must_v they_o be_v all_o pour_v out_o before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o forty_o and_o two_o month_n as_o the_o ten_o plague_n by_o the_o two_o witness_n moses_n and_o aaron_n be_v before_o the_o end_n of_o their_o captivity_n or_o sojourn_v in_o egypt_n thus_o you_o see_v by_o divide_v the_o vial_n as_o some_o to_o go_v 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witness_n to_o fall_v in_o with_o they_o which_o i_o see_v not_o repl._n either_o you_o or_o i_o be_v here_o in_o some_o mistake_n both_o to_o the_o remnant_n and_o witness_n for_o 1._o i_o do_v not_o take_v the_o remnant_n as_o you_o do_v to_o be_v the_o one_o hundred_o forty_o and_o four_o thousand_o but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o part_n of_o the_o woman_n seed_n which_o never_o flee_v into_o the_o wilderness_n against_o who_o the_o dragon_n make_v war_n rev._n 12.17_o and_o this_o before_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o witness_n and_o so_o in_o likelihood_n refer_v to_o the_o war_n in_o france_n holland_n germany_n britain_n etc._n etc._n 2._o i_o take_v the_o one_o hundred_o forty_o and_o four_o thousand_o and_o the_o rise_v witness_n to_o be_v all_o one_o for_o as_o you_o say_v well_o it_o be_v a_o testimony_n or_o witness_n not_o person_n that_o be_v slay_v the_o which_o testimony_n or_o truth_n that_o be_v the_o glorious_a cause_n and_o interest_n of_o christ_n rise_v and_o live_v 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