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The triall of Maist. Dorrell, or A collection of defences against allegations not yet suffered to receiue convenient answere Tending to cleare him from the imputation of teaching Sommers and others to counterfeit possession of divells. That the mist of pretended counterfetting being dispelled, the glory of Christ his royall power in casting out divels (at the prayer and fasting of his people) may evidently appeare.
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commission vpon commission M. Dorrell often desired to ioyne in commission to haue copies of depositions and to haue a new commission to examine witnesses on his parre but was denyed all witnesses grave Preachers and worthy Gentlemen speaking for M. Dorrel were reproved and depositions materiall to his iustification taken by other Commissioners were twice snatched from him in open Court some would not be receaved at all yea some were blotted out beeing recorded by the Register Nay these hunters for matter against M. Dorr could so hardly abide anie thing that sounded towardes the signification of his innocency that a poore parish-Clerke was fetched vp from Nottingham onely because he did sing the 94. Psalme before that the Nottingham Commissioners forsooth satt in Commission Which proceedings M. Dorrell hopeth all indifferent men will deeme as very indirect so of small validitie For these considerations First M. Dorr was coÌmitted for one thing and prosecuted for another Secondly the iudging of counterfeiting belongeth as M. Dorr supposeth to the Starr chamber or some other of her Maiesties Courts and not to the high Commission Thirdly in that lawe whereby the high Commission reigneth it is a rule Delegatus non potest delegare And fourthlie In the Stare chaÌber where most criminall causes be heard determined the party accused of what fault soever hath leave to plead and prove for him selfe and to take out copies of depositions for him or against him objection 7 If there had bene a sincere purpose to finde out the trueth it is straunge that the same Commissioners should bee still imployed in discovering these 4. couÌterfets as Darling by Harsenett Kather. Wright by Harsenett Pigott and Gregory Indeed the Maior of Chesterfielde for countenaÌce sake was one with them who simple-man was content to sett his hand to what they had don though hee was not at the doing him selfe Mary Cowper by those 3. and other of Nottingham for the purpose as hereafter c. And WilliaÌ Somm by the same And it is more straunge that so many of all sortes wise simple godlie prophane learned vnlearned who viewed those 4. manie times in their fitts sith they were long vexed one 10. weekes another 17. weekes a third halfe a yeare and the 4 th aboue 12. yeares could not perceive counterfeiting and these finde it out so quickly and yet none of them ever saw any of the possessed in their fitts nay the Nottingham men could not be drawen to come to that sight fearing belike in their hearts that which with their mouths they said to haue ben counterfett Were all other eye witnesses fooles and could not or partiall and would not discover Doubtles if these Commissioners had gon into Lancashire they had founde the 7. possessed there to have bene counterfets too These were enioyned by authority to bend their witts to find counterfeiting and there is no cause why these should be partiall Yes two causes First partiall affection For Harsenet and Pigott servants of trust to the L.B. of London set against M. Dorr as is shewed were to make good their Masters word that sith he had taken M. Dorrells matter in hande hee would have the credit of it And the men of Nottingham must iustifie their accusation of Sommers and wreck their malice vpon M. Dorrell sith they had power in their handes by their commission Secondly Popery for not long since Harsenet held about 12. grosse errors of Popery never yet soundly recanted For which Cambridge spewed him out and now lately denyed him the grace of Doctorship M. Morrey of Nottingham is generally reputed to be a Papist and either for his owne or his wyves popery hath ben before the high CoÌmission at Yorke and M. Gregory hath not receaved the Communion for 11. yeares togeather No merveile though the secret friends of Rome doe what they can that the true Church of Christ may not haue credit by casting out Devills which that Synagogue glorieth in as proper to it self So that som Papists not denying the possessioÌ of the 7. in Lanc. do say That if it were plaine that they were dispossessed by the fasting and prayer of M. Dorrell and M. Moore c. they will forsake the Church of Rome wherein they shew more sincerity though lesse pollicy then the L. B. of London and his Commissioners Againe others mo in number of greater creditt had ben before enioyned by authority to sift out the truth touching Sommers who after diligent examination and seing him in such a fitt That M. Walton an Archdeacon and then an arch-adversarie was constrained to say This is the finger of God returned That Sommers was no CouÌterfeit as had then ben giuen out If these or the like meÌ for credit learning iudgment and godlines had ben imployed in examining the trueth coÌcerning the other 3. pretended counterfetts no doubt they would also in them haue acknowledged the finger of God So that if the L.B. of London might chalenge a right honorable personage for threatning Sommers whereas it was onely said and that âfter hearing take heede least these trickes âring thee to the authour of them much more may M. Dorrell challenge the L. B. of London his Commissioners being M. Dorrels enimies for threatning to whip âang and burne for committing and inâoyning to appeare at London when drawing meanes could not prevaile such as would not sweare as they desired or more âhen they well liked And for interlyning ân the absence and without consent of the âeponent and all this not to vrge taking âf money of witnesses as of M. Beersford ând others before hearing as is shewed âefore and can not be too often noted Sundry times was M. Dorr convented objection 8 âefore the high CoÌmissioners At the first even the time of his commitment when âommers his accusation of teaching to âounterfeit was not hatched M. Dorr was âalled Heretique Devill and threatned to âe the Devils martyr c. Onely because âe denied Sommers to haue counterfeited ât the second and third coÌvention he was âalled Most impudent varlett Asse Patch c. Also when at the same time âentle audience was given to Papists Arians Atheists blasphemers neither then nor at any time after would they permit him to speake any thing to the purpose iâ his own defence save somwhat in the lasâ day of hearing for their promise sake anâ least otherwise their dealing should appeare too grosse in the eyes of the L. chieâ Iustice of Englande who was desirous tâ heare him speak Yet somewhat being sâroundly and substantially spoken then tâ the matter that the L. B. of Cant. his colour went and came so that hee could nâ endure he silenced M. Dorr for this reason least he should perswade his favoritâ present In which last convention wheâ vnto most is attributed these things are ãâã bee observed First though promise wâ made by the L. Bishops to honorable peâsonages that M. Dorrell should be heaâ iudicially at or before the ende