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A79892 Golden apples. Or Seaonable and serious counsel from the sanctuary to the rulers of the earth, held forth in the resolution of sundry questions, and cases of conscience about divisions, schisms, heresies, and the tolleration of them. Collected out of the writings of the most orthodox, and judicious divines, both Presbyterians, and Independents. / By Sa. Clarke, pastor in Bennet Fink. Clarke, Samuel, 1599-1682.; Anthony, Burgess, d. 1644. 1659 (1659) Wing C4518; Thomason E1881_3; ESTC R209888 84,688 239

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as are cross to the word of God punish only such things as men in conscience should avoid and will this make them to dissemble c. Obj. Such coercive power in matters of Religion is the way to bring in persecution for conscience sake Answ 1. Teaching Magistrates their duty to punish things manifestly cross to the Word of God and that after due means used for conviction is rather a way to restraine them from persecuting the Saints for a good cause or conscience and if accidentally Gods enemies take occasion hence to abuse their power this must not take away the due use of it Papists and Prelates abused Church-censures against the godly yet this their sin dischargeth not the Church from its duty 2. It s an absurd argument to reason thus Men may not be persecuted for a good cause and conscience therefore they may not be punished for maintaining a bad cause c. Obj. The exercise of any such power by godly Rulers is crosse to the meek Spirit of Christ and to that merciful spirit which he requires to be in his Saints Rom. 15.1 Gal. 6.1 2. Eph. 4.32 2 Tim. 2.25 Answ Zeal of God in sharp punishing of such corruptions flood well with Christs Dove-like spirit None so meek as he and yet none so zealous this way The zeal of Gods house even consumed him and made him lay on so hard with his scourge upon those who polluted the Temple John 2.16 with 14.15 16 20. Moses was the meekest of men in his own cause Numb 12.3 yet lion-like in that cause of pollution of Gods worship Exod. 32.26 27 c. Hezekiah was a shadow to the Saints Isa 32.2 Yet a fiery flying Serpent against Gods and the Churches enemies Isa 14 29 30. Quest Quest What other reasons may be rendred why the higher Civil powers ought not to grant a Tolleration to their Christian subjects to hold and professe in matters of Religion what themselves may pretend conscience for their so doing when indeed grosly erring and contemptuously and pertinaciously holding the same forth Ans Answ 1 First because they may not give liberty to their Subjects to live in and practice the works of the flesh But Heresies and Schismes are works of the flesh Gal. 5.20 therefore not to be tollerated Secondly that liberty which suffers men ordinarily to draw persons away from God is not to be granted by Christian Magistrates but to tollerate persons under a pretence of Conscience pertinaciously to hold forth corrupt opinions is to suffer them to draw others from God therefore it s not to be allowed Deut. 13.9 Thirdly that liberty which suffers the sheep of the Lord in an ordinary way to wander from their fold and pasture without restraint or effectual care to reduce them is not to be allowed by political shepherds which God placeth over them This the Lord complains of and sharply reproves Ezek. 34.5 6 7 8. There was no Shepherd neither did my Shepherds search for my flock but they wandred and became a prey were driven away and devoured there were Shepherds but they did not execute their office but suffered Gods flock to be seduced and corrupted by false prophets But the liberty aforementioned doth thus therefore it s not to be allowed Fourthly such a liberty carries a brand of Anarchy in the State yea and of a sad judgement of God upon that State for the provoking sins both of rulers and people 1. It s one brand of Anarchy Judg. 17.6 there was no King in Israel every one did what was right in his own eyes 2. It s a sad judgement of God as appears Zach. 11.9 with 15 16 17. where the Lord threatens to leave those of his flock alone to themselves and to killing courses of sinne that which dieth let it die and the judicial means he useth is in judgement to raise up a foolish Idol Shepherd i.e. such Rulers in Church and State into whose hands the flock is delivered to be spoiled as v. 5 6. such as care not what becomes of their souls So 2 Chron. 20.33 where it appears that to be left by authority to take up corruption in religion under pretence of conscience is a sad judgement of God for the sins of a professing people Fifthly such a tolleration makes Rulers not to be for Christ but in that respect against him for it makes them not to be for one chief end of his coming which was to destroy the works of the devil For a tolleration of errours is a tollerating the works of the devil because erroneous doctrines are forged by the devil and are some of those lies whereof he is the Father John 8.44 Those doctrinal lies are doctrines of devils 1 Tim. 4.2 unclean frogges that come out of the Dragons mouth Rev. 16.13 14. yea lesser errors about meats and marriage are called doctrines of Devils 1 Tim. 4.1 2 3. therefore they ought not to be tollerated Sixthly Such a Tolleration will wound a State in the very continuity of it It breaks the hedge and walls of a State and so lets in manifold mischiefs For 1. Corrupt Doctrines so allowed do mingle with and wil eat out sound Doctrine pure Religion and the Covenant of God which are the ligaments and bands of a Christian State and made Jerusalem so compacted together Psalm 122.1 2 3. For 2 Tim. 2.16 17. They will encrease to more ungodliness and their words will eat as a Canker or Gangrene 2. Corrupt Doctrines tend to the breaking of the peace of such societies where they are tollerated Hence Gal. 5.10 12. I would they were cut off that trouble you And Acts 20.30 They draw away or rent away as members from the body Disciples after them Where there are Heresies amongst Church-members there will be Schisms and Divisions 1 Co● 11.18 19. Such filthy Dreamers Jude 8. are branded for sedicious persons in Common-wealths They despise Dominions and speak evil of Dignities witness the many breakings of our Parliaments and turning of Governments upside down Such justly perish as did seditious Corah verse 11. Hence Seducers are called Traitors heady high-minded Truce-breakers False-accusers fierce c. 2 Tim. ● 1 2 3 4 5. and that he speaks this of Seducers appeares verse 6 7 8 9 13. And Jude 16. They are branded for Murmurers and Complainers quarrelling against matters in Church and State All ages have declared that persons of corrupt Principles in Religion are frequent Movers and Abettors of civil seditions 3. Corrupt Doctrines break the hedges and walls of a Christian Common-wealth and leave it naked to become a prey to its adversaries So was Israel when they had corrupted Religion Exod. 32.25 till Moses commanded Justice to be executed upon some for the terror of others ver 26 27. False Prophets let alone spoil the vines and break the hedges as is implyed Ezek. 13.4 5. So Ezek. 22.26 27. When such corruptions are let alone a gap is made verse 30. and when none in Authority are found to make it up by punishing them God powers out his indignation upon them verse 31. Solomons connivence at Idolatry in his wives rent his Kingdom in pieces but punishing such corruptions puts away evill Deut. 17.2 3 7. 7. Such a tolleration God accounts to be a kicking at Religion and honoring such Corruptors above God himself as appears 1 Sam. 2.12 to 16. with 23 24 25 29. Elies sons corrupted the worship of God by snatching what came first to hand and the Lord saith not only to them but to Eli too Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and honourest thy sons above me c. therefore it ought not to be granted 8. Such a Tolleration of such evils causes those very evils to be charged on Rulers themselves and bringeth the wrath of God upon them So Elies sons sins were charged upon and punished on Elie himself and Solomons connivence at the Idolatry of his wives And Nehemiah contends with the Rulers for not reforming the prophanations of the Sabbath Nehe. 13.10 11 12 16 17 18. the sin of the people in doing corruptly in the matters of God is charged upon Jotham 2 Chron. 27.2 he did that which was right in the sight of the Lord yet the people did corruptly 2 Kin. 15.34 35. and that is charged upon him as his sin 9. Such a Tolleration makes men abhor Religion and to speak evil of the way of truth as Elies sons corruptions being connived at made men abhor the Lords offerings 1 Sam. 2.17 So 2 Pet. 2.1.2 3. 10. Such a Tolleration is intollerable because it is an allowing of Foxes to spoil Christs vines Can. 1.2.16 Of Wolves that spare not Christs flock Acts 20.30 with Ezek. 34.8 10. Of Sorcerers that bewitch men 2 Tim. 3.13 Gal. 3.1 Who hath bewiched you c they are also as Jesabel whom God will punish if men neglect their duty in doing of it Rev. 2.20 21 c. Thus you have the Judgement of Mr. Tho. Cobbet of New England against a General Tolleration See more of this in Mr. Cottons answer to Mr. Williams FINIS Errata Typographica PAg. 2. lin 6. pro Nobathaea leg Nabathaea p. 3. l. 21. pro Saphirus leg Sapphirus p. 4. l. 1. pro phorus leg pharus p. 6. l. 13. pro pollysyllaba leg polysyllaba l. 18. pro ped●x leg pedis in margine pro Harpago est faem leg masc p. 7. l. 26. post silex adde et p. 9. l. 20. pro mine leg minae p. 10. l. 4. pro vendiciae leg vindiciae p. 11. l. 11. pro facinum leg fascinum p. 15. l. 10. pro Ligar leg Ligur p. 20. l. 8. pro areo leg aveo p. 23. l. 6. adde distinguo
against dangers threatened from a common enemie Fourthly they should secure and set bounds about fundamental doctrines for which end they should take care and promote the dutie of Catechising Fifthly they should provide that Ministers may be known to be Orthodox in the great and weighty Controversies between us and the Hereticks of our times that wo●ves may not privily creep in under sheeps cloathing Sixthly they should hinder the printing and spreading of dangerous and infectious books either from Ports or Presses and all other ways of diffusing leaven into the people Dr. Reynolds Peace of Jerusalem A certain friend having sent to Mr. Cotton of Boston in New England sundry Arguments against persecution for cause of conscience Mr. Cotton returned him this answer Quest Quest Your question saith he which you put is whether persecution for cause of conscience be not against the Doctrine of Christ who is King of Kings Answ Answ By persecution for cause of conscience I conceive you mean either for professing some point of doctrine which you believe in conscience to be truth or for practising some work which in conscience you believe to be a religious duty Now in points of Doctrine some are fundamental without a right beliefe whereof a man cannot be saved others are circumstantial and less principal wherein men may differ in judgement without endangering their salvation So in points of practice some concern the weightier duties of the Law so as if it be right fellowship with God is held If corrupt fellowship with him is lost Again in points of doctrine or worship less principal they are either held forth in a meek and peaceable way or in so arrogant and violent a way as tendeth to the disturbance of civill peace Lastly when we are persecuted for conscience sake it s either for conscience rightly informed or for an erronious and blinde conscience These things premised the answer is laid down in these conclusions First it s not lawful to persecute any for conscience-sake rightly informed for then Christ himself is persecuted in them Act. 9.4 Why persecutest thou me Secondly for an erroneous and blind conscience even in fundamentals it s not lawful to persecute any till after once or twice admonition Tit. 3.10 where the Apostle gives the direction and the reason viz. because in fundamental points of Doctrine and Worship the Word of God is so clear that he cannot but be convinced in conscience of the dangerous error of his way after one or two admonitions wisely and faithfully dispensed and then if he persist it s not out of conscience but against his conscience as ver 11. He is subverted and sinneth being condemned of himself If then such a man be punished he is not persecuted for his conscience but justly punished for sinning against his conscience Thirdly in things of lesser moment whether in doctrine or worship if they be held forth in a spirit of meeknesse and love he is not to be persecuted but tollerated till God shall please to manifest his truth unto him Phil. 3.17 Rom. 14.1 2 3 4. Fourthly but if a man hold forth any error or false way with a boisterous and proud spirit to the disturbance of civil peace he may be justly punished according to the quality of the disturbance made by him Obj. Object But Christ commands to let the tares and wheat grow together till the harvest Mat. 13.30 c. Answ Answ Tares are not Briars and Thornes but partly hypocrites like unto the god●y as tares are like the wheat or partly such corrupt doctrine or practises as are indeed insound but yet such as come nere the truth and so neere as good men may be taken with them and so the persons in whom they grow cannot be rooted out but the good will be rooted up with them and in such a case Christ calls for a tolleration not for a penal prosecution Obj. Object But Christ Mat. 15.14 would have the blinde let alone till they fall into the ditch therefore he would have their punishment deferred till their final destruction Answ Answ Christ speaks not there to publick Officers whether in Church or State but to his private Disciples concerning the Pharisees over whom they had no power But this makes nothing to the matter in hand Obj. Object But Luk. 19.54 Christ blames his Disciples who would have fire to come down from heaven to consume the Samaritans who refused to receive him Answ Answ This directs Ministers of the Gospel how to deal not with obstinate offenders who sinne within the Church against conscience but either with men without as the Samaritans were and many unconverted Christians in Creet whose conversion Titus was to seek or at best with some Jews and Gentiles within the Church who though carnal yet were not convinced of the errour of their way and so indeed it became not the spirit of the Gospel to convert aliens to the faith of Christ by fire and brimstome nor to deal harshly in their Ministry or private conference with all contrary minded men as either had not entred into Church fellowship or if they had did yet hitherto sin of ignorance not against conscience But neither of these do hinder Ministers from proceeding in a Church-way against Church-members when they become scandalous either in life or doctrine much lesse do they speak at all to the civil Magistrates Obj. Object But the Prophets foretold that carnal weapons should cease in the dayes of the Gospell as Isa 2.4 and 11.9 Micha 4.3 4. and Paul saith our weapons are not carnal 2 Cor. 10.4 and Christ bids his disciples not to persecute but to pray for their persecutors because they who are now persecutors may be converted Answ Answ The Prophets predictions do shew First with what kind of weapons God would subdue the Nations not by fire sword but by the power of the word and spirit 2. They shew what a meek and peaceable temper true Converts would be of not Lions Leopards c. not biters one of another but this forbids not to drive ravenous wolves from the sheepfold and to restraine them from devouring Christs sheep and when Paul saith our weapons are not carnal he ●enies not weapons of justice to the Civil Magistrate but onely to Church-Officers and yet he allows them such weapons as are ready to take vengeance on all disobedience 2 Cor. 10.6 which refers to the censures of the Church against scandalous Offenders 3. When Christ commands his Disciples to bless them that cursed and persecuted them he gives not a rule to publick Officers either in Church or State to suffer gross sinners either in life or doctrine to passe unpunished but teaches private Christians to suffer persecution patiently and to pray for their persecutors 4. Christ indeed would have his Disciples far from persecuting for that is a sinful oppression of men but this hinders not but that he would have them execute upon all disobedience the vengeance required in the word 2 Cor. 10.6
receivers of them Quest What is Mr. Jer. Quest Burroughs his Judgement about Tolleration Answ His Judgement is Answ that nothing makes more stir amongst us this day then this principle of absolute liberty in matters of Religion The wantonness saith he of mens spirits their extream boldness about the matters of God and Christ is such as should cause our hearts to tremble Such horrid Blasphemous opinions are amongst us owned and professed with so much impudence that our Duty to God our love to and care of the preservation of Religion calls every consciencious person to set himself against such a false sinful and dangerous Principle as this is Quest Why Quest what is the danger of this principle Answ First Answ 1 it s an abhorring thing to any mans heart in the world that men should suffer that God to be blasphemed whom they honour and that nothing should be done for their restraint but ask them why they do so and to perswade them to doe otherwise Secondly it s against the light of Scripture Deut. 13.16 If thy brother or thy sonne or thy daughter c. shall secretly entice thee saying Let us go and serve other gods c. Thou shalt not consent nor hearken to him nor pity nor spare nor conceale him but thou shalt surely kill him c. Obj. Object This is the Old Testament and we finde no such thing in the Gospell Answ Answ We finde the same thing and almost in the same words used in a Prophesie of the times of the Gospel Zach. 13.3 In the latter end of the 12. chap. it s prophesied that those which pierced Christ should look upon him and mourn c. and then ch 13.1 There shall now a fountaine be opened for sin and for uncleannesse and ver 3. It shall come to pass that he that takes upon him to prophesie his Father and mother that begat him shall say unto him Thou shalt not live For thou speakest lies in the Name of the Lord and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him thorow when he prophesieth the meaning is that though they begat him yet they should be the means to bring him to condigne punishment even to the taking away of his life Thirdly by this principle the reins are let loose to all kindes of wantonness and spirits of opposition in matters of Religion and then the pride of mens hearts will carry them forth to infinite jarrings and divisions Obj. Object But Christ hath left spiritual means to prevent this Answ Answ Christs spiritual meanes are to work in a spiritual way upon the heart to change it and then upon the outward man But whilest Christs means are thus working externall means may keepe evil from breaking forth in the outward man Christ hath not left the outward man to do what it will till spiritual means work upon the heart especially considering that if you grant this liberty men may choose whether any of those spiritual means should at all come at them Object Object But Magistrates have nothing to do in matters of Religion Answ Answ It s granted that a Magistrate is not an Officer of Christ in his Mediatory Kingdom For Christs Government is two-fold First As he is God equal with the Father and together with the Father ruling Heaven and Earth Secondly As he is God and Man Mediator in a peculiar Kingdom of his that he hath by way of dispensation from the Father Now the Magistrate is an Officer of God the Father and Son in the general government of the world but not an Officer of Christ in his Mediatory Kingdom Quest Quest But doth not this then exclude him from exercising any power in matters of Religion Answ Answ No For God in the exercise of his Power in Governing the world hath a special aim at promoting the Kingdom of Christ the Mediator therefore Magistrates exercising this power of God ought to aim at the same ends that God himself aims at in the exercise of his own Power i.e. to be usefull to Christs Covernment in his Church and for the good of his Church God from the beginning of the world aimed at the setting of his Son to be King upon his holy hill at the promoting of the Glory of him who is God-man And if Magistrates make not use of their Power to this end he will require it at their hands Quest Quest It s granted that Magistrates under the Old Testament had power but they in the exercise of such power were Types of the Kingly Power of Christ Answ Answ Were there nothing but meer examples and Laws from the Old Testament to confute this general tolleration they would hardly be cogent and binding only so far as there is equity in them and so the Judicials bind now as well as they did then But There is common Reason and Equity from one civil Ordinance to prove another though it be conversant about spiritual things For 1. It s the Dictate of nature that Magistrates should have some power in matters of Religion all people have ever thought it equal The Heathens would never suffer their Gods to be blasphemed but punished such as were guilty thereof by their Magistrates 2. Sure there is a common equity for there is a necessity for it as well now as then In natural and civil things its a good Argument there is need of such an help therefore we should seek to have it Quest Quest How will it appear that there is need of it Answ Answ Because we were in a most miserable condition if we had no external civil power to restrain from blasphemies and Seducements then the condition of the Jews was far more happy then ours For if any of theirs blasphemed God and sought to seduce any from him they were to put him to death But now if such do seduce our nearest and dearest relations into such ways as we judge will turn to the everlasting damnation of their souls yet we must only desire them to forbear admonish or reprove them but restrain them we may not If our deliverance from the Pedagogy of the Law hath brought us into this condition our burden is herein greater then any that the Law hath laid upon our Forefathers Hath Christ delivered us from one burden to lay a greater upon us Must we now stand and see those which are dearest to us drawn away into damnable wayes and stand and look on but no way help them surely then our condition is very sad and have we not cause to say Lord let any burden of the Ceremonial Law be laid upon us rather then this If mad-men were running up and down the streets with knives and swords in their hands and we might only speak to them but not restrain them what a mischievous thing were this The case is the same when those who are mad with damnable Heresies may run from place to place and draw all they can from the truth and we may only admonish them surely
esteemed to be Atheists Hereticks Blasphemers of their gods or oppugners of their established Religion Fifthly this coercive power of the Magistrate is every way as useful and necessary now for the glory of God salvation of mens souls and peace of the Church and State as it was then yea in some respects more necessary there being in our dayes not onely the same reasons and causes for the power of the Magistrate but many others also as was shewed by Master Burroughs before Mr. Tho. Edw. against tolleration Quest Quest How may it further appeare that corruption in Religion outwardly breaking forth and expressed may yea and must be restrained and punished by the civil Magistrate Answ Answ From the example of Christ John 1.13 c. who whipped out of the Temple those that sold Oxen and Sheep c. Object But Christ did this as God Object or at lest as the Messias therefore it s not imitable Answ First Answ 1 Civil Rulers are Christs vice-gerents as he was God and therefore they are called Gods Psal 82.1 6. and said to judge for God 2 Chron. 19.6 and are called the Ministers of God Rom. 13.4 who are to take vengeance in Gods stead they are also Christs vice-gerents as Mediator as one that hath all power committed to him in earth as well as in heaven Mat. 28.18 From him therefore as political head of his people Magistrates power on earth must come Prov. 8.15 16. Hence he is called King of Kings 1 Tim. 1.16 17. Rev. 19.16 yea he makes them nursing fathers to his Church and so commits his Church which is his house into their hands as to those who by their civil authority are every way to further its welfare and therefore what Christ did when on earth to purge corruptions out of his Church he now doth by the hands of his vice-gerents Secondly he that was God man who acted here did it in a mixt way not only as God but partly as man also as man he made the whip of cords and smote them therewith his example therefore herein is imitable by men of place and the reason whereby Christs act was justified was the zeale of Gods house John 2.17 which must needs be yeelded to be an apt and just reason sutable to the act and imitable by others which are called thereunto Object Object It was an extraordinary act in Christ as man to punish abuses in Religion in a Corporal way Answ Answ 1 First admit that yet at least the act it self of such punishment of the abuses in religion must needs be in it self that whereon the image of Christs zeal was enstamped and that which in it self is good or else Christ could not have done it without sin and if in its nature it was good its imitable by such as are called thereunto to do that in an ordinary way which he did in an extraordinary Secondly be it that it was extraordinary in Christ as man to act thus So was Phineas his act in killing Zimri and Cozbi Numb 25.7 8. and Samuels in hewing Agag in pieces 1 Sam. 15.33 and Elijahs slaying of Baals Priests 1 King 18.40 yet it must be yeelded that there must be some who by office might and should in an ordinary way have punished such sins the Lord not using to stirre up any in an extraordinary way to do any such acts but in a defect of ordinary power So by these extraordinary acts was a supply made of the defect of Magistratical power which in an ordinary way makes use of the sword or whip for the corporal punishment as Rom. 13.4 rather then such abuses in Religion shal not be in an external coercive way curbed and punished therefore Christ thought it fit to put forth his hand to so good and blessed a work when those whose duty it was to do it would not discharge their trust Quest Quest What corruptions in religion are thus to be punished by the Civil Magistrate Answ Answ We must distinguish of corruptions in Religion and they are First either Dogmatical or Practical and these again are either such as are more grosse and strike at the fundamentals or vitals of Religion whether directly or collaterally or such as are of a more circumstantial and lighter nature Secondly corruptions in religion are either such as are secretly taken up and embraced or such as come under mans view being outwardly expressed by word writing c. and these again are either such as are held forth with meeknesse and real expressions of a cordial readinesse to lay them aside upon better information or such as are carried on in a turbulent way and with contempt of Civil or Church order Againe restraint and punishment of these is either that which is meerly and immediately divine or that which is partly Divine and partly humane in respect either of the agent or manner of acting or that which is properly in the nature of the act person and manner of acting humane and this againe is either Political which is carried on in a Civil way and by Political means or Ecclesiastical which is carried on in a Church-way and by Church meanes Thirdly a call of God to restraine and punish abuses is either immediately Divine as when by Divine vision revelation prophesie inspiration instinct c. or that which is mediately divine in respect of God the author but immediately humane in respect of man designing and inviting Quest Quest What conclusions may be laid down upon these premises Answ We shall shew 1. Answ Negatively what may not be done 2. Affirmatively what may and must First Negatively we say that 1. No private person in these dayes under any pretence whatsoever may take upon him to restraine and punish corruptions in religion in those who are not under their personal charge It 's rash zeal zeal without knowledge to do any thing this way without the bounds of ones particular calling in the limits whereof every one should abide with God 1 Cor. 7.20 24. It tends to confusion and God is no authour of that 1 Cor. 14.33 2. No civil authority nor persons thereunto called may as such punish abuses in Religion in any Ecclesiastical way as excommunication c. Christ never gave the power of the keys to Civil Magistrates but to his Church-Officers Mat. 16.18 19. and 18.17 18. 1 Cor. 5.4 neither may Church-Officers punish in an external way as by imprisonment fines stripes sword c. Mat. 20.25 26. 3. Neither Civil nor Church power may punish a meer supposed corruption in Religion but that which doth manifestly appear to be so by the Word of God they must not make men offenders for a word rightly uttered by the just Isa 29.21 that 's blind zeal as Joh. 16.2 3. 4. Neither of them may censure or punish corruptions in Religion till they break forth in outward expressions For then and not till then they are of legal proof scandalous and infectious Hence Deut. 13.13 14. and 17.2 3 4 5.