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A16615	A myld and iust defence of certeyne arguments, at the last session of Parliament directed to that most Honorable High Court, in behalfe of the ministers suspended and deprived &c: for not subscribing and conforming themselues etc Against an intemperat and vniust consideration of them by M. Gabril Powell. The chiefe and generall contents wherof are breefely layd downe immediatly after the epistle.	Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618.	1606 (1606)	STC 3522; ESTC S104633	109,347	172

among brethren The assumptiō or second part of the former Argument is granted by the answerer answerer himselfe in his answer to the first Argument yea it is manifest by the good successe of their ministery from God in the sayd Argument mentioned Yea and that this argument from the blessing of God upon their ministery is of force and much to be respected appereth by the words of the blind man reported with commendation by S. Iohn This is a mervelous thing that ye know not whence he is and yet he hath opened myne eyes Now we know that God heareth not sinners but if any man be a worshipper of God and doth his will him heareth he And verse 33. If this mā were not of God he could haue done nothing Was this argumēt good from the opennyng of the eyes of the body of one that was borne bodily blind and is it not much stronger from the openyng of the eyes of the minde of many that are borne spiritually blind The further answer of M. Powel to this third Argument conteyneth nothing but that which is partely answered before and partly to be answered afterward Therefore I passe the same by and come to the 4 argument The Fourth Argument The Israelits so respected a bodily deliverance wrought by Ionathan for them that they saved him from danger of death Ergo Much more ought this Christian high Court of Parliament being not a company of rude souldiers but the cheife flower of this Realme and representing the whole Realme so to respect the spirituall deliverance of themselues and of many other wrought by the Ministers now silenced etc. That they speake what lawfully they may for all lawfull releefe of them against their troubles The marginall notes G. Powel a Ionathans case and the Schismaticall Ministers is altogether unlike And the urging of this zeale having not the like cause seemes to be dangerous But I spare my brethren The author urgeth not this argument from Ionathan as from a like example but from a comparison a minore ad maius from the lesse to the greater Therefore though there be not the like cause yet there being greater viz. From consideration of a spirituall deliverance there is no danger therin The author by this example moveth only the Parliament to be zealous for the saide Ministers Is there danger now in the zeale of so wise judicious an assembly It is also acknowledged by the answerer afterward that the Israelits did justly rescue Ionathan Is there any danger then by an example of them that did justly to provoke the wise Parliament to pleade with a wise and religious Prince for the Ministers Wherin then doth this answerer spare vs that seeketh every corner to find something for which he might if he could hang us G. Powel b The greater is their sinne whose superstition and wilfull obstinacy hath restrained their libertie and made them unserviceable in the Church Reply Is it not a strange thing I had almost saide sinne that it should be accounted sinne superstition and wilfull obstinacy yea such as makes men vnserviceable in the Church in feare of sinnyng against God soberly to refrayne from humane Ceremonyes and yet swearing swaggering rioting gamyng dronkennes whoredome adultry even in the sight of the world should not make men unserviceable etc That such things are in many suffred and countenaunced in the ministry is knowne to many of the Parliament house If his Christian Majestie were also rightly informed thereof I doubt not but that thinges would be otherwise ordered Further answer to the 4 Argument The Ministers did but their duety etc. If men should alwayes be so answered when in their necessities they should require some help and comfort in regard of some former kindnes would not men cōdemne such answerers of great ingratitude in humanitie viz. Thus to be answered that which you haue done was but your duety G. Powel Ionathans example is unlike unto the suppliants For Saule in hypocrisy had made a rash vowe etc. But the actions of our Soveraigne are not so exorbitant etc but advised and just etc. See how wise the children of this world are in their kind Reply The author altogether wisely and purposely as it seemeth concealed the name of Saule in the argument that he might reason from the comparison of the worke onely of Ionathan in a bodily deliverance for the better regard of the Ministers now silenced etc. In respect of the spirituall deliverance of the people by them This I say he doth without any mention at all of Saule that so the worke might be generally and simply respected in it selfe without any perticular eye unto Saule out of whose hāds the people delivered Ionathan He respected their thankefulnes in delivering Ionathan from death without respect of the person that would haue put him to death Agayne I know not why the answerer should thinke the author to meane rather our gracious King as answerable to Saule then the Prelats the cheife and principall actors in all wrongs and injuries done unto the Ministers pleaded for except that either he had rather impute all hard dealing to his Majestie than to the Prelats or that hereby he would provoke the more wrath against the author and all by him supplicated for whom before notwithstanding he seemed greatly to spare Further if the Israelits justly rescued Ionathan as the answerer confesseth they did iustly much more iust is it that many ministers should be releeved in their troubles If yet they presse the author further for meanyng Saule and comparing our King unto him as Saule was the Lords annoynted what is the danger wherein the answerer before should bragge of sparing his brethren Can he gather any undutifulnes towards his Majestie Or can he imagine the author to haue intended any forcible meanes to be used by the Parliament that sitting to make lawes against force and violence towardes any subject must therefore much more themselues be farre from offering any force and violence towards their Soveraigne Doe the words in the Argument to be Zealous and earnest import any such matter Force and violence of any especially of subjects against their Princes is rather of Popish fury and madnes then of any Christian zeale and earnestnes Besides the often most Honorable mention of his Majestie in the Arguments and his expresse pressing the Parliament to doe all in humility modestie in the next argument yea that they should not onely use boldnes but christian boldnes yea that they should put forth all their giftes and graces of knowledge Zeale compassion modesty and humility yea finally that in the preface he petitioneth nothing by him written to be understood of any other meanes then good honest lawfull peaceable and agreable to every mans calling All these things doe abundantly cleere the author from all undnetifull intent and meanyng against his Majestie That the Israelits did not in such humility speake for Ionathan to Saule as they should

none So say I that for the better mayntenance of the gospell where there were neede there might be many a good share had out of the surperfluity of those that maintayne their wiues in sattin and dammaske gownes velvet kirtles cheynes etc that bring up their children like the children of Noble men that fat themselues and theirs and starue the Lords people and who after their great abundance Preach not so much in 4 yeares as they did before in one G. Powel Suppose there were not able Ministers inough for this purpose Haue not the refractary Ministers then greater reason to joyne with their brethren in preaching the gospell confuting the Papists etc then superstitiously to quarrell about cross and surplice and to forsake their necessary vocation Nay Reply Haue not the Prelats the more reason to suffer us still in the worke of the Ministery with them We are all willing so farre to joyne with any in preaching the Gospell as we may doe nothing against the Gospell to craze the peace of our owne conscience The answerer often charging us with superstition cōvinceth them that say that we doe not that which we doe of conscience For if we be superstitious in not yeelding to crosse surplice etc then are they to us meere matters of cōscience For superstition is not in words but hath her seate in the conscience THE 16. ARGVMENT Ephes 2 14 15 As Christ Iesus to make peace betwixt Iewes and Gentils tooke away the Ceremonyes ordayned by God himselfe because they had been a partition wall betwixt the sayd Iewes Gentils and instituted no other in their places so the Ceremonyes other thinges now in question having been the meanes of much debate amongst us wherby the buildyng of the Church hath been greatly hindred and the enimyes thereof strenghtned they ought in this respect to be removed Ergo. The Ministers now molested for the sayd thinges inquestion ought to be spoken for and releeved and that by the Parliament because none may doe it better The Marginall Notes G. Powel a Hence appeareth what things they be that the refractaryes are offended with why then doe they pretend the gospell of Christ reconciliation with God etc Ad populum phaleras Reply These things being repugnant to the purity and sincerity of ihe gospell under which God will not be worshipped in any such Ceremoniall sorte Iohn 4 23 but in spirit and truth Being also such as for which the Ministery of the gospell is restrayned upon the liberty wherof dependeth the salvation of the people and their reconciliation with God There is no cause why such scoffing and frumping outcryes should be made against us as here else where are made Yea though the ministery of the gospell were not for these thinges restrayned yet being urged in the worship of God they are unlawfull and men standing against them and in all humility desiryng them to be removed by lawfull authority may well be sayd to stand in Gods cause and to plead for God G. Powel c O Martin was an modest man Thanks be to God Reply that you haue no other then Martin to upbrayd vs with who was unknowne what he was and whose writing was never approved by us and who also though he jested at some manners of your side yet never wrote so bitterly as many of you now doe G. Powel d They will offend and yet will not be told of it You haue not proved us to offend Reply in those thinges wherein you impute most offence unto us If we doe offend we are more then told of it yea our punishment is greater then our offence because it is greater both then the law appoynteth and also then the punishment of other whose offences are greater G. Powel e Heat of contention may carry men further then were expedient But are the refractaryes mylder in this kind Witnes all their Pamphlets and libels written against us The first parte of this note is plentifully justified not onely by the booke Scotish Genevating Reply by the most scurrilous booke of The picture of a Puritan and by the answerers owne booke De Adiaphoris but also by this presēt answer injoyned and allowed by authority wherein for ought I know there are more rayling scoffing and untrue speeches then are in all the bookes here unjustly termed pamphlets and libells If any notwithstanding of us doe offēd in this kind they are not iustified by the rest yet this is not to be forgotten that they that be the loosers and goe away with the blowes may be the better borne withall in their words G. Powel f A disgracefull terme But doe they acknowledge themselues non conformitans and schismaticall Reply If the word conformitan be a disgracfull terme is ther not disgrace in Conformity and being conformed For are not these words Conformed conformity and conformitans coniugata Why then are we urged to conforme Eyther therfore you justifie vs in not conforming our selues for who would disgrace himselfe or else you doe ill to say we call you by a disgracefull name when we call you conformitans G. Powel g Suam scabiem affricant Reply It needeth no answer All men know and dayly heare how they galle us in every sermon and how litle we deale with them G. Powel h A malicious lye There are fewe or none in the Church of England so ignorant and so scandalous in the Ministery as here the suppliants insinuat and if any such be amongst us sure I am that upon complaint and intimation otherwise they are severely censured and punished for it Yet I must giue them to understand that scandalous Ministers for life are more tolerable in the Church then such as be factious Schismaticall or scandalous for doctrine and phanaticall conceits Plus enim nocent doctrinae scandala quam morum delictae Reply Neither malicious nor lye All men good bade doe too well knowe too many both ignorant and scandalous to be in the Ministery If it might please his most excellēt Majestie or his most Honorable Councell to send out Commissions into all Countryes and to appoynt indifferent Commissioners neither Bishops nor any other Prelaticall persons because such are partyes but religious Noble men and gentlemen to inquyre of this matter the truth would much better appeare to the everlasting reproch of all those that doe so justifie the present state of the Ministery For the rest of the former note who knoweth not that one lewd person how base and abject soever may and dayly doth procure worke more trouble to a good Minister and doth more easily prevaile to his ejection then twentie good men though of never so good credit yea then somtymes the whole Parish besids though never so great can doe for the good and peace of the best Minister That also for a man not to were a surplice or make a cross in the ayre or I cannot