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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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like_o a●prating_a pettifogger_n cry_v loud_a when_o he_o have_v lest_o proof_n chap._n iii_o bell_n argument_n out_o of_o s._n austin_n touch_v concupiscence_n answer_v the_o first_o place_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o s._n 45._o bel_n pag._n 45._o austin_n be_v tom_fw-mi 7._o l._n 6._o contr_n julian._n c._n 3._o where_o he_o write_v as_o blindness_n of_o hart_n be_v sin_n punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n so_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v sin_n punishment_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n answer_n s._n austin_n compare_v concupiscence_n with_o blindness_n of_o hart_n in_o the_o material_a disorder_n of_o sin_n for_o as_o sin_n be_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n so_o disordinate_a lust_n not_o in_o formality_n of_o sin_n nether_a say_v i_o this_o only_a but_o can_v prove_v it_o and_o omit_v that_o other_o where_o he_o 13._o lib._n de_fw-fr spir._n &_o ●it_n c._n ult._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concup_n c._n 23._o l._n 1._o con_v dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o plain_o avouch_v it_o to_o be_v no_o formal_a sin_n as_o be_v before_o show_v i_o prove_v it_o first_o by_o his_o reason_n where_o with_o he_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v sin_n uz_o because_o it_o be_v disobedient_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n which_o convince_v it_o to_o be_v material_a sin_n and_o a_o disorderly_a and_o evil_a thing_n but_o not_o to_o be_v formal_o sin_n for_o want_v of_o voluntarines_n which_o himself_o necessary_o require_v to_o formal_a sin_n as_o be_v before_o show_v second_o because_o it_o suffice_v to_o s._n austin_n to_o 9_o ●ap_n 1._o parag_n 9_o prove_v concupiscence_n to_o be_v material_a sin_n for_o to_o disprove_v julian_n the_o pelagian_n against_o who_o he_o there_o dispute_v who_o teach_v as_o s._n austin_n there_o and_o other_o where_o testify_v ●●_o lib._n the_o nupt_a &_o concup_n c._n 34._o to_o 7._o &_o l._n 6._o cont_n jul._n ●_o ●●_o that_o it_o be_v laudable_a &_o good_a against_o who_o he_o there_o prove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o blindness_n of_o hart_n that_o it_o be_v not_o only_a punishment_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n but_o also_o sin_n that_o be_v naught_o evil_a and_o disorderly_a because_o it_o be_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n which_o be_v to_o be_v sin_n material_o though_o it_o want_v the_o form_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v voluntarines_n 2._o next_o he_o bring_v these_o word_n some_o 46._o bel_n pag._n 46._o iniquity_n be_v in_o man_n when_o the_o inferior_a part_n do_v stubborn_o 7._o s._n augustin_n tom_n 7._o strive_v against_o the_o superior_a albeit_o they_o be_v not_o suffer_v to_o overcome_v and_o quote_v for_o they_o l._n 6._o contr_n julian_n c._n 8._o as_o he_o find_v it_o through_o the_o printer_n error_n false_o quote_v in_o bellarm_n 4._o bellarm._n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr amiss_o great_a &_o stat_fw-la pec_fw-la c._n 9_o bell_n challenge_v nothing_o but_o beauties_n objection_n sup._n c._n 1._o parag_v 3._o &_o 4._o but_o they_o be_v l._n 6._o c._n 19_o which_o add_v to_o that_o that_o almost_o all_o he_o say_v be_v find_v in_o bellarmin_n convince_v that_o he_o make_v this_o boast_a challenge_n out_o of_o his_o objection_n as_o for_o s._n austin_n his_o meaning_n when_o he_o call_v concupiscence_n iniquity_n be_v sufficient_o explicate_v before_o and_o the_o very_a word_n some_o argue_v that_o he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v formal_a sin_n but_o in_o some_o sort_n uz_o material_o beside_o that_o himself_o l._n 2._o contr_n julian_n c._n 5._o expound_v the_o like_a word_n out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n of_o no_o sinful_a iniquity_n 3._o the_o three_o place_n cite_v by_o bel_n be_v l._n 1._o de_fw-fr 46._o pag._n 46._o nupt_a &_o concupis_fw-la c._n 25._o where_o s._n austin_n 7._o s._n augustin_n tom_fw-mi 7._o write_v if_o concupiscence_n can_v both_o be_v in_o the_o baptize_v parent_n and_o be_v no_o sin_n why_o be_v the_o self_n same_o no_o sin_n in_o the_o child_n to_o this_o i_o answer_n say_v s._n austin_n that_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o forgive_v in_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o impute_v to_o sin_n item_n there_o remain_v not_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o remit_v whereupon_o bel_n infer_v both_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v formal_a sin_n else_o it_o need_v not_o be_v forgive_v &_o that_o it_o be_v true_a sin_n as_o well_o after_o baptism_n as_o before_o though_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o sin_n after_o baptism_n and_o bid_v we_o mark_v that_o s._n austin_n say_v not_o nothing_o be_v sin_n that_o remain_v or_o no_o sin_n remain_v but_o not_o any_o thing_n remain_v which_o be_v not_o remit_v answer_n the_o form_n &_o ●●_o what_o be_v the_o essence_n of_o habitual_a sin_n cap._n ●●_o essence_n of_o habitual_a sin_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o actual_a sin_n before_o do_v according_a to_o s._n austin_n in_o the_o same_o book_n and_o next_o chapter_n as_o the_o form_n of_o habitual_a sin_n of_o adultery_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o actual_a adultery_n before_o commit_v &_o the_o form_n of_o that_o habitual_a sin_n which_o we_o have_v by_o origin_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o adam_n actual_a eat_v the_o apple_n which_o guilt_n givenes_n how_o concupiscence_n need_v for_o givenes_n be_v annex_v to_o concupiscence_n make_v it_o formal_a sin_n and_o to_o require_v forgiveness_n but_o that_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o by_o god_n forgive_a the_o sin_n as_o the_o same_o holy_a doctor_n teach_v in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o lib._n 6._o austin_n s._n austin_n contr_n julian._n c._n 17._o and_o lib._n 1._o retract_v c_o 13_o concupiscence_n need_v no_o more_o forgiveness_n as_o the_o same_o b._n saint_n write_v lib._n the_o spirit_n 13._o to._n 3._o &_o 1._o &_o lib._n 1._o contr_n dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o &_o light_v c._n ult._n and_o epist_n 200._o nor_o remain_v any_o more_o true_a sin_n more_o than_o the_o body_n remain_v a_o man_n after_o the_o soul_n be_v depart_v and_o in_o this_o very_a place_n which_o bel_n cit_v when_o he_o ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n in_o the_o child_n if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v and_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o evident_o suppose_v that_o it_o be_v no_o true_a sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v 4._o as_o for_o that_o of_o not_o impute_v sin_n what_o s._n austin_n mean_v thereby_o we_o will_v rather_o austin_n what_o no●_n impute_v of_o sin_n be_v with_o s._n austin_n learn_v of_o himself_o then_o of_o bel_n he_o therefore_o in_o the_o very_a word_n which_o bel_n cit_v have_v ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o sin_n mark_v bel_n in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o child_n unbaptise_v answer_v that_o by_o baptism_n non_fw-la imputatur_fw-la 7._o none_o but_o a_o infidel_n will_v say_v sin_n be_v not_o ta●en_o away_o in_o baptism_n s._n august_n l._n 1._o cont_n dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o to_o 7._o in_o peccatum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o impute_v for_o sin_n in_o which_o answer_n unless_o he_o do_v by_o not_o impute_v for_o sin_n mean_v make_v no_o sin_n he_o have_v not_o answer_v the_o question_n why_o concupiscence_n be_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v parent_n therefore_o with_o he_o concupiscence_n not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o or_o for_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v make_v no_o sin_n and_o cap._n 32._o he_o say_v that_o concupiscence_n to_o be_v impute_v be_v to_o have_v the_o guilt_n uz_o of_o adam_n actual_a sin_n which_o it_o have_v with_o it_o and_o consequent_o to_o be_v not_o impute_v be_v to_o have_v this_o guilt_n take_v away_o but_o to_o have_v no_o guilt_n be_v to_o have_v no_o sin_n as_o himself_o say_v c._n 26._o therefore_o with_o he_o concupiscence_n to_o be_v not_o impute_v be_v to_o be_v make_v no_o sin_n nether_a indeed_o can_v god_n otherwise_o not_o impute_v sin_n but_o by_o take_v it_o away_o for_o his_o judgement_n be_v according_a to_o truth_n rom._n 2._o v._n 2._o and_o therefore_o if_o there_o be_v sin_n paul_n s._n paul_n in_o we_o he_o must_v needs_o impure_a it_o to_o we_o and_o account_v we_o sinner_n else_o he_o shall_v not_o account_v we_o as_o we_o be_v and_o according_a to_o truth_n and_o albeit_o s._n austin_n do_v not_o in_o this_o place_n say_v in_o plain_a term_n nothing_o be_v sin_n that_o remain_v or_o no_o sin_n remain_v yet_o he_o manifest_o suppose_v the_o first_o when_o he_o ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o sin_n mark_v bel_n as_o well_o in_o parent_n baptize_v as_o in_o the_o child_n &_o affirm_v they_o both_o in_o equivalent_a term_n when_o he_o answer_v that_o by_o not_o imputation_n concupiscence_n become_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v as_o be_v already_o show_v and_o otherwhere_o plain_o affirm_v that_o all_o sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o baptism_n and_o 26._o s._n austin_n
god_n and_o man_n which_o i_o think_v none_o but_o a_o mad_a man_n will_v grant_v and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o bel_n will_v think_v himself_o unjust_o execute_v if_o he_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o a_o thing_n do_v against_o his_o will_n and_o which_o he_o labour_v all_o he_o can_v to_o hinder_v 10._o the_o assumption_n i_o prove_v because_o if_o involuntary_a if_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o some_o time_n involuntary_o nothing_o be_v involuntary_a that_o be_v not_o involuntary_a whereof_o we_o give_v no_o occasion_n nor_o consent_n unto_o yea_o detest_v and_o hinder_v all_o we_o can_v as_o it_o happen_v oftentimes_o in_o the_o motion_n of_o concupiscence_n i_o can_v not_o see_v what_o can_v be_v involuntary_a unto_o us._n and_o if_o they_o be_v papist_n as_o bel_n term_v they_o pag._n 51._o who_o call_v such_o act_n of_o concupiscence_n judgement_n s._n paul_n s_o augustin_n serm_n 43._o de_fw-fr verb._n dom._n see_v serm_n 3._o 5._o and_o 12._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n bel_n a_o papist_n by_o his_o own_o judgement_n involuntary_a a_o papist_n be_v s._n paul_n say_v rom._n 7._o v._n 19_o i_o do_v the_o evil_a which_o i_o will_v not_o and_o s._n austin_n when_o he_o say_v i_o will_v not_o that_o concupiscence_n covet_v we_o will_v there_o be_v no_o concupiscence_n but_o will_v we_o will_v we_o we_o have_v they_o yea_o bel_n himself_o no_o les_fw-fr than_o they_o thrice_o in_o this_o article_n pag._n 50._o 51._o and_o 57_o in_o plain_a term_n call_v these_o motion_n involuntary_a 11._o but_o to_o this_o argument_n he_o answer_v 51._o bel_n pag._n 51._o that_o they_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n and_o thereto_o cit_v s._n austin_n affirm_v original_a sin_n of_o 1._o s._n austin_n 1_o retract_v c._n 13._o tom_n 1._o infant_n to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n and_o call_v this_o the_o gordian_a knot_n which_o papist_n can_v never_o untie_v and_o so_o clear_a and_o evident_a a_o solution_n of_o the_o argument_n as_o every_o child_n may_v behold_v the_o weakness_n falsehood_n and_o absurdity_n thereof_o but_o bel_n be_v ignorant_a origin_n what_o be_v to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o the_o origin_n what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o the_o origin_n for_o this_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v will_v of_o he_o from_o who_o we_o take_v our_o origin_n and_o who_o will_n be_v account_v we_o as_o original_a sin_n be_v voluntary_a to_o infant_n in_o their_o origin_n because_o it_o be_v will_v of_o adam_n in_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o forbid_a apple_n and_o his_o will_n be_v in_o that_o fact_n account_v they_o and_o this_o mean_v s._n austin_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la but_o as_o for_o actual_a motion_n 1._o 1._o retract_v c._n 13._o to_o 1._o of_o concupiscence_n he_o never_o say_v they_o be_v voluntaty_n to_o we_o in_o their_o origin_n nether_a can_v gregory_n why_o involuntary_a motion_n be_v not_o voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n s._n gregory_n they_o both_o because_o adam_n have_v no_o will_n of_o commit_v these_o act_n as_o he_o have_v of_o lose_v original_a justice_n in_o eat_v the_o apple_n as_o also_o because_o his_o will_n be_v not_o account_v we_o in_o any_o other_o act_n then_o in_o his_o keep_n or_o first_o lose_v of_o original_a justice_n beside_o as_o s._n gregory_n write_v l._n 15._o moral_n c._n 22._o original_a sin_n be_v blot_v out_o child_n be_v not_o hold_v by_o the_o iniquity_n of_o parent_n and_o therefore_o adam_n will_n can_v not_o make_v those_o act_n in_o the_o regenerate_a to_o be_v sin_n which_o of_o their_o nature_n be_v none_o 12._o and_o though_o the_o foresaid_a motion_n be_v sin_n inuoluntary_a motion_n though_o they_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n can_v be_v no_o sin_n voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n yet_o can_v they_o be_v nether_a original_a nor_o actual_a sin_n not_o original_a because_o they_o be_v act_n and_o not_o common_a alike_o to_o all_o nor_o actual_a because_o they_o have_v no_o actual_a will_n of_o the_o doer_n and_o as_o voluntary_a in_o general_n be_v essential_a to_o sin_n in_o general_n so_o be_v actual_a voluntary_a to_o actual_a sin_n yea_o for_o a_o act_n now_o do_v to_o be_v formal_a sin_n when_o it_o be_v do_v suffice_v not_o that_o it_o be_v actual_o voluntary_a in_o the_o cause_n do_v long_o ago_o if_o now_o it_o be_v against_o wil._n for_o albeit_o when_o i_o give_v cause_n of_o a_o unlawful_a effect_n which_o i_o do_v see_v will_v after_o ensue_v i_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o effect_n when_o i_o do_v the_o cause_n yet_o if_o after_o the_o cause_n do_v i_o repent_v &_o be_v sorry_a before_o the_o effect_n follow_v i_o do_v not_o sin_v a_o new_a in_o the_o effect_n as_o if_o by_o some_o thing_n yesterday_o do_v i_o give_v occasion_n that_o disordinate_a motion_n rise_v to_o day_n though_o i_o be_v then_o guilty_a of_o these_o motion_n rise_v yet_o if_o i_o since_o repent_v i_o do_v not_o sin_v a_o new_a when_o they_o rise_v now_o against_o my_o wil._n else_o i_o shall_v against_o my_o will_n lose_v that_o grace_n which_o i_o get_v by_o repentance_n wherefore_o well_o write_v s._n gregory_n to_o s._n austin_n our_o apostle_n 10._o s._n gregory_n epist_n ad_fw-la augustin_n cant._n c._n 10._o oftentimes_o it_o be_v do_v without_o fault_n which_o come_v of_o fault_n and_o much_o les_fw-fr shall_v involuntary_a motion_n be_v sin_n in_o we_o though_o they_o be_v original_o voluntary_a unto_o we_o only_o by_o the_o will_n of_o a_o other_o thus_o be_v this_o gordian_a knot_n two_o way_n untie_v but_o himself_o have_v with_o his_o tongue_n tie_v so_o fast_o a_o knot_n for_o proof_n himself_o bel_n disprove_v himself_o of_o my_o conclusion_n as_o with_o his_o tooth_n he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o loose_v for_o pag._n 48._o he_o affirm_v s._n paul_n to_o have_v be_v most_o free_a and_o innocent_a contradict_v 12._o contradict_v touch_v actual_a sin_n and_o he_o prove_v it_o because_o he_o fight_v mighty_o against_o his_o rage_a concupiscence_n and_o do_v in_o no_o wise_a yield_v thereunto_o which_o be_v both_o to_o confess_v that_o s_n paul_n have_v involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o himself_o acknowledge_v rom._n 7._o v._n 15_o 17._o 19_o 23._o &_o yet_o to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o because_o they_o be_v involuntary_a which_o be_v both_o my_o conclusion_n and_o reason_n 13._o as_o for_o s._n austin_n he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o 15._o s._n augustin_n 10._o 2._o see_v s._n austin_n lib._n 2_o cont_n jul._n c._n 3._o &_o 10._o l._n 5._o c._n 3._o 15._o think_v that_o we_o sin_n by_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o he_o say_v epist_n 200._o ad_fw-la asellicum_n that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o they_o we_o need_v not_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n which_o he_o repeat_v again_o l._n the_o spit_n &_o light_v c._n ult._n add_v 3._o tom._n 3._o that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o these_o act_n we_o shall_v disprove_v that_o say_n of_o s._n john_n if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o deceive_v ourselves_o and_o prove_v it_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr civet_n c._n 15._o thus_o if_o concupiscential_a disobedience_n 5._o tom._n 5._o be_v without_o fault_n in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o sleep_v how_o much_o more_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o not_o consent_v and_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupis_fw-la c._n 23._o explicate_v how_o it_o be_v call_v sin_n uz_o as_o writing_n be_v call_v a_o hand_n or_o cold_a sluggish_a which_o be_v figurative_o &_o improper_o nay_o he_o not_o only_o excuse_v we_o from_o sin_n when_o we_o consent_v not_o unto_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o avouch_v that_o then_o we_o do_v much_o good_a a_o great_a 10._o merit_n in_o resist_a concupiscence_n according_a to_o s_o austin_n tom._n 7._o tom._n 10._o matter_n for_o which_o we_o shall_v be_v crown_v lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupisc_fw-la c._n 29._o he_o do_v much_o good_a who_o do_v that_o which_o be_v write_v follow_v not_o thy_o lust_n and_o serm_n 5._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n c._n 6._o it_o be_v a_o great_a matter_n for_o i_o not_o to_o be_v overcome_v of_o concupiscence_n and_o cap._n 9_o who_o consent_v not_o do_v much_o it_o be_v a_o great_a matter_n he_o do_v and_o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr gen._n cont_n manich._n c._n 14._o sometime_o reason_n 1._o tom._n 1._o do_v manful_o refrain_v and_o bridle_v concupiscence_n even_o stir_v up_o which_o when_o it_o be_v do_v we_o fall_v not_o into_o sin_n mark_v bel_n but_o with_o some_o strive_a be_v crown_v wherefore_o if_o they_o be_v papist_n as_o bel_n 13._o contradict_v 13._o say_v pag._n 46._o and_o 49._o who_o say_v we_o merit_v when_o we_o resist_v concupiscence_n sure_o s._n austin_n be_v one_o yea_o bel_n himself_o if_o he_o account_v it_o