Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	punishment_n	sin_n	sin_v	1,923	5	9.5821	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A09100	A defence of the censure, gyuen vpon tvvo bookes of william Charke and Meredith Hanmer mynysters, whiche they wrote against M. Edmond Campian preest, of the Societie of Iesus, and against his offer of disputation Taken in hand since the deathe of the sayd M. Campian, and broken of agayne before it could be ended, vpon the causes sett downe in an epistle to M. Charke in the begyninge.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Charke, William, d. 1617. Replie to a censure written against the two answers to a Jesuites seditious pamphlet.	1582 (1582)	STC 19401; ESTC S114152	168,574	222

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peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la impute●ur_fw-la quamuis_fw-la reatu_fw-la svo_fw-la iam_fw-la soluto_fw-la manet_fw-la tamen_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o this_o be_v answer_v that_o the_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v forgeven_v in_o baptism_n not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v into_o sin_n it_o remane_v still_o though_o the_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o here_o now_o we_o see_v that_o s._n augustin_n affirm_v only_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o quite_o take_v away_o by_o baptism_n but_o yet_o the_o guilt_n thereof_o be_v so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o impute_v into_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o sin_n the_o cause_n why_o it_o be_v leave_v he_o utter_v in_o diverse_a place_n as_o when_o he_o say_v 4._o ad_fw-la agonem_fw-la manet_fw-la non_fw-la sibi_fw-la ad_fw-la illicita_fw-la consentientibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la omnino_fw-la nocitura_fw-la concupiscence_n remane_v to_o fight_v withal_o but_o yet_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o it_o can_v 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