Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
cause_n preach_v zeal_n zealous_a 35 3 9.3361 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A19461 A modest and reasonable examination, of some things in vse in the Church of England, sundrie times heretofore misliked and now lately, in a booke called the (Plea of the innocent:) and an assertion for true and Christian church policy, made for a full satisfaction to all those, that are of iudgement, and not possessed with a preiudice against this present church gouernment, wherein the principall poynts are fully, and peaceably aunswered, which seeme to bee offensiue in the ecclesiasticall state of this kingdome. The contentes whereof are set downe in the page following. Covell, William, d. 1614? 1604 (1604) STC 5882; ESTC S108881 174,201 234

There are 5 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

It is now at the least three and thirty yeares since our troubles began to be beauie vpon vs let them shew how wee haue moued our finger against our dread Souereigne and in defence of all those who haue laboured in this cause he is not affraid to say Was not all our doings by humble Supplications honest and Christian Apologeticall writings and by lowly and earnest suing by our friendes And further In this wee haue done no otherwis●●han all Christian Ministers may and ought to doe And if any man maruell how the Bishops became their enemies he aunswereth Bishops were our enemies by the Papists meanes Could any man Imagine that either so much without cause against the Bishops or so many things without truth for thēselues could haue beene vttered if an opinion peraduenture of that wherein thēselues were Innocent did not carrie them with ouermuch charitie both to thinke all which was against them to be too vehement too much and all for them ouer modest and too little Can it be thought that the Author of the plea of the Innocent should be perswaded that the Papists had made any of the Bishops to be their enemies or that those libels which past vnder the name of Admonitions Supplicatiōs Demonstrations Martin Dialogues and such like should by any indifferent reader be thought to be either hūble honest or Christian or that they had done nothing in this cause more than all Christian Ministers may ought to haue done no surely the Christian part of the world to whom our vnnaturall violent and vnholy contentions haue cōmen are able to witnes too wel that he who hath brought a willingnes to speake euill and hath performed it in howe vnseemly a manner soeuer hath beene thought by the patrons of that cause to haue merited sufficiently the name of a brother and to haue beene a deserued partner of their liberall contribution This to many yong men hath beene a daungerous temptation I meane those of the meanest sort who in themselues naturally haue a double aduātage to giue strength to this daungerous weakenes The one a disposition to reproue wherein their owne innocency is thought greatest when they dare in vnseemely tearmes take vpon them to controule others The other a hastie desire to seeme of some account which in an ordinary course without great labour is not easily attained where as euil speaking and vnseasonable raylings Commonly called Zealous preaching bringeth them at least among their partiall followers into an opinion of learning innocency and purified Zeale But let these men vnderstand that where readers are of Indifferen●y as some times their Bookes fall into the hands of such though for the most part they are dispersed amōgst the Breathren of the cause they gaine this Iust Censure That that cause cannot be good which hath not other patrons to support it than those who haue learned nothing but only to speake euill I am sorie the inferiour sort of our Clergie are both so ignorant themselues and haue possessed their auditors with the same error that we may not allow any thing vsed in the Church of Rome no more than any thing vsed in any assembly of the Heathen whatsoeuer So that whilst ouer bitterly we distast euerie thing which is in vse in that Church whose greatest part is infected with much error we breed an opiniō in those who are not fully resolued that we rather mislike many things because they vse them than for that we are able to giue a reason why we doe mislike them The best course in this had beene first to haue made Demonstration that the same things being vsed by diuers are all one or that those things contēded for by authority in our Church were not in the better and former times of the Church or are not of an indefferent nature neither can be made lawfull by any circūstance These things being neglected and other meanes vsed lesse reasonable and lesse honest we conclude that the proceeding of the Reformers hetherto hath beene altogether vnlawfull and without warrant CHAP. V. Of Contentions THere was neuer any thing more fatal to the prosperitie of Gods Church thā the violēt nourishing of contentiō within her Bowells and especially by their meanes who ought to haue been the principall Authors to procure her peace for where euery man is violent for that which himselfe likes and partiall affection through stronge humors becommeth the best reason to plant a Religion a falt most vsuall in those Kingdomes that are most vertuous euery man becommeth so great an opposite that in the ende they are in hazard to be depriued of all truth There is nothing safer to a Kingdome than that the Religion professed be but only one and this safetie then shall bee accompanied with much honor when those of the same Religion are desirous and carefull to preserue the Vnitie of the spirit in the bond of peace otherwise it must needes come to passe that those small and first beginnings which receiued life and increase from an holy Vnion must in the end by discord and discention al perish And therefore not vnwisely the Cities of Greece receiued of their Citizens no other oath sauing only this to preserue Vnion That Satan hath had apt instruments to hinder this in all ages those Scarres in the Church which are not yet throughly cured shall witnes well to the ages that succeed after and the hatefull note of reproch shall remaine as a blemmish vnto their names who rather than they would yeeld haue been contēt in the midst of these flames that the Church perish This being the blessing annexed to the cōmandement of the holy Prophet Pray for the peace of Hierusalem they shall prosper that loue thee As though the happines of prosperitie could not light vpon their heads whose Tongues haue been the principall actors of contentiō in Gods Church this being an euil by so much the lesse cureable by how much the oppositions for Religiō be more violent This made the Apostle to frame that most Eloquēt Exhortation to humilitie and peace If there be any Consolation in Christ If any comfort of loue if any fellowshippe of the spirit if any compassion and mercy fulfill my ioy that yee be like minded hauing the same loue being of one accord and of Iudgement that nothing be done through contention or vaine Glorie This being the meanes to attaine vnto this perfection if in meekenesse of minde euery man esteeme better of others than of himselfe for saith the wise man as the Cole maketh burning Coles and woode a fier so the Contentious man is apt to kindle strife In the case of the Church wee ought to haue remembred long since the great reason of that attonement betwixt Lott and Abraham Wee are Breathren vnlesse they in discreatiō of some few haue caried them so farre that they can hardly afforde those to be tearmed by that name who because their Iudgements and wisedome are farre greater Their Religion
meanes against the heresie of Priscilian the hatred of which one euill was all the vertue he had became so wise in the end that euery man carefull of vertuous conuersation studious of Scripture and giuen vnto any abstinence in dyet was set downe in his Kalender of suspected Priscillianistes For whom it should bee expedient to approue their soundnes of faith by a more licentious and loose behauiour neither do I thinke vnto a great number that desired this name could any thing more fitly be applied than that vnto the Cathari a sect of Heretikes not cleane but worldlings or as Epifa●i●s calleth them pure impure ones But surely if eyther the Cathari the Nouatians the Pelagians the Donatists or any sect of the papists at this day worthily deserue to be termed by the name of Puritan thē surely it is no great error to apply that name to a number amongst vs who are euer readie to boast of their innocencie and in respect of themselues to account all of a contrary faction vnholy and prophane Others this Author accounteth old barrels And yet if he had well remēbred what he saith in any other place That who so feareth an oath or is an ordinarie resorter to Sermons earnest against excesse ryot Popery or any disorder they are called in the Vniuersity Prescisians and in other places Puritans Surely if this description of a Puritan were true neither were there much reproach in the name nor would a great number be left out of that sect who in all humility religion and conscience haue learned to submit themselues to the present States and I doubt not but verie truly a great nūber of the Reuerend Fathers of the Church might more fitly be called prescise than those that for the earnest affectatiō of a new discipline desire by their followers to bee called pure For surely in all those things mētioned as notes to discerne a Puritan many that are very far from that peeuish singularity of some amongst vs haue done the Church more seuice in one yeare and liued with greater sinceritie their whole life than the principall of those who are distinguisht by that name Is it not a straunge presumption to Impropriat Conscience Holines Innocency and Integrity onely to some few as if all the rest who haue seuered themselues from the Church of Rome were no better than Athiests time-seruers prophane and irreligious only in this respect because by their authoritie and learning they haue resisted this vnreasonable desire of a new disciplne So hardly doo 〈◊〉 temper our selues when wee are strongly perswaded of our owne fancies but that all that are contrarie or repugnant to vs wee traduce thē to the world as men without conscience only for this that they are apposite A practise which alone is able to discouer to the world our exceeding pride and intollerable selfe-loue for no man can doubt but the aduersaries to this cause haue exceeded the other in all 〈◊〉 wherein they are or would seeme to bee most excellent onely they haue learned to obey which is much better than all the sacrifice of fooles But seeing words haue so many Artificers by whom they are made and the things whereunto wee apply them are fraught with so many varieties it is not alwaies apparant what the first inuentours respected much lesse what euerie mans inward conceit is which vseth their words doubtlesse to distinguish things that are of a different condition is the most ordinarie and the safest vse of names seeing necessarily to collect what things are from names by which they are called can haue small warrant these being but effectes oftentimes of malice sometimes of ignorance mistaking sometimes of some particular accident all which serue but in the construction of wisemen to make their estimation by a better rule and where things are not in nature such not to condemne them though they called by euill names The name of Puritan or Prescisian no man hath reason to vse it as a disgrace seeing with vs it serueth but to signifie such as being more strict for obseruation of Ceremonies than others both parties being opposite in that they both notwithstanding may bee equally distant from the Church of Rome and therefore as I cannot excuse such as prophanely make it any imputation to bee prescise a duetie which surely ought to bee performed by vs all in a stricter maner so neyther doo I thinke the proceeding of those to bee altogether lawfull who vnder this name hauing shrowded themselues account all men besides to bee prophane Atheistes and the resistance which they finde in their violent course to bee a cruell persecutor of innocent men in a good cause They that teach the world to thinke and to speake thus must needes bee iudged both to slaunder the profession of the Gospell amongest vs and to make themselues the best part of that Church which is seuered from the customes of the Church of Rome But lest peraduenture none of them eyther mislike the name or make the original of their sufferings to bee their innocency let vs heare one of them plead for the rest Men which made consceince of many things which the Reuereud Fathers and many learned men affirmed to bee lawfull and for this they were called Puritans There is no man can think but in matters of this nature the iudgement of the Reuerend Fathers and many other learned men that were not Bishops might haue ouerswayed the stifnesse of some few for so they were at the first without inforcing any faction or breach of the Churches vnion this phrase is vsuall in that Booke the goodnes of our cause and the innocency of our persons God deliuered his innocent seruants and being reproued for their proceeding their aunswere is the innocency of our cause doth constrayne vs and that the world may knowe the reason of their sufferings they say the chiefest cause of their trouble and reproach is their carefull and zealous following of Gods holy Word and their tender conscience in offending God Would not a man thinke that the Church of England which hath seuered it selfe not without many Daungers from the Church of Rome had looked backe and become a Harlot and a bloody Kingdome surely there cannot be a greater blemish laid vpon this Church which both is and is desirous to be thought reformed than that it hath persecuted for their conscience men holy religious Innocent and it a good cause The whole tenor of that plea of the Innocent runneth on in this course as if it were the sighes and mournings of a Church vpright and pure labouring vnder the burthen of persecution because they cannot in conscience yeelde vnto Superstition as others doo from hence are these speeches They seeing our Innocencie that of mere conscience our vprightnesse makes vs poore innocent men And in an other place to the same purpose We can boldely and in the sight of God protest our Innocency wee and our honest and iust cause
an o●her mans seruant He standeth or falleth to his owne Master And yet as that morall wise man saith It little skillet● with what minde that is d●●● which is euill done because th●●●ede is seene but the minde is not It is no praise not to doe th●●●●ich thou canst not And if the best excuse bee allowed both to him and others which can be afforded in so euill a cause wee must needes say That centention in the Church is the hurtfull effect of indiscrete Zeale And howsoeuer men bouldly apply that to themselues which was spoken by our Sauiour Christ. The Zeale of thine house hath euen eaten mee yet they little consider that with this Zeale of Gods honor which eateth them they haue no warrant that Gods house should be eaten by them true Zeale saith S. Austine desireth in his place to amend what is a misse but if he cannot he doth tollerate it and sigh for there is a Zeale that proceedeth from rancor and malice but not from loue Extraordinarie Zeale which exceedeth the limits of our priuate calling is then only no sinne when it proceedeth from the power of the spirit and not a priuate motion the same spirit warranting that Zeale by giuing an extraordinarie power as also an vnresistable strength all which were found in our Sauiour in the sonne of Eleazer in the Sonnes of Leuie in Elias and diuers others And if the Pleader hath performed any thing either more powerfully or more effectually than other men we are readie to confesse that this newe Contention arose from a holy Zeale But under this colour daungerous attempts haue beene committed in Gods Church Thus Anabaptist in Germanie cut off his brothers head in the sight of his Parents perswading them that the holy Ghost was the Author of that fact But because he could not make the Magistrate to beleuee so much hee himselfe by their sentence indured the same death And it were fitt all these Zealous murderers of their bretheren by their hot contentions were examined by the Magistrate of their lawfull calling for it is great pitie that Religion and Zeale and sometimes peraduenture a good cause all which are most innocent should suffer the reproach of a shamefull Act but such Zealous persons haue beene in all ages who vnder pretense to reforme Religion haue been the worst mē and the greatest enemies that Religion had when Claudins Nero gouerned there were some that called themselues Zealatours and vnder that name were earnest for Religion vntil thēselues had brought fier to consume the Temple for which they stroue and surely if humane reason haue leaue to coniecture what is like to be the euent of these euils Atheisme propanenes and sacrilege must al enter at the dore of Contention to burnvp Religion to robbe the Church And howsoeuer peace be best built vpō redēptiō of wrongs for otherwise to make an Vnitie without repeting the causes of discord is but rather to please vs with the name than with equitie to compound the wrongs wherein if we had beene the first yet it may appeare that we are not willing to vrge the Authors of these Contentions too farre in giuing a beginning to his euill surely their fault must needes be the greater which will not suffer it to haue an ende alter principium malo dedit alter modum abstulit neither can we excuse the bitternesse of some whose paines were little required to haue laboured in this cause as the former in the impure cōtentions of Martinisme defaced the gouernment of the Church in the persons of Bishops and Prelates so the other sort did lead into contēpt the exercises of religion in the persons of sundrie Preachers disgracing as one well noteth the higher matter though in the meaner person we can be cōtent to thinke that in many the beginning of these euils was a detestation which they had to the Church of Rome But we wish such men to know that first they haue iniured greatly the Church of Christ by hindering that increase which Religion in this Land might haue had if these violently had not beene ouer willing to contend with all men and then that as there is nothing of more vse so nothing in respect can be of greater daunger in Religiō thā Zeale is for this if it be directed aright is mother of much ●olines but being mislead is the Adulterous stepmother of much Hypocrisie and doub●lesse the corrupt fountaine of the greatest and most daungerous contentions that haue troubled this Church ha●● bin the faise opinion of vndiscret Zeale and when our contentions growe strong they spoyle saith Solo●●● a house full of facrifices and lest they should thinke wee are willing and esteeme it an honor to contend with them we say we haue taught the truth the auncient and perpetuall gouernment of the Church we haue maintained the reformed discipline by the example of the first and best Churches after the time of persecution we teach nothing but the pure Gospell of Christ wee administer the Sacraments as wee ought we are and haue learned to bee obedient to those that rule ouer vs we wish and prouide that the Ministerie of England may be learned that men may be diligent in that honorable fruction committed to them that all Idolatrie and superstition may be banished in one word that the Church may be cured from all their infirmities by the hand of authoritie and those lawfull meanes prouided for her safetie that noe rayling and contentious speeches to the disgrace of any mans person may be vsed by vs and if any man teach otherwise and consenteth not to the wholsome words of the Lord Iesus Christ and to the doctrine which is according to Godlinesse hee is puft vp and knoweth nothing but doateth about questions strife of words whereof commeth enuy strife raylings euill surmisinges froward disputation of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth which thinke that gaine is godlines for doubtlesse the wrath of man doth not accomplish the righteousnesse God for where enuy and strife is there is sedition and all manner of euill workes but wisedome that is from aboue is first pure then peaceable gentle easie to bee entreated full of mercy and good fruits without iudging and without Hypocrisie and the fruit of righteousnesse is sowne i● peace of them that can make peace Wee therefore beseech you breathren by the mercies of Christ Let vs be all of one minde let vs seeke peace and ensue it let there be noe strife I pray you betwext you vs neither betwext your beardmē nor our beard-men for we are Breatheren But if they will needes proceede in this intemperat manner to nourrish the flame of these vnhallowed Contentions which both strengthen the aduersaries and weaken our selues we can but wish that authoritie may cause their writings to bee abortiue and not see the Sunne but if their policies in this doo preuent lawes
are worthie men enough why doth he complaine of the silencing of some as a great wrong to the Church which in this great scarsitie of good and lawfull Ministers did much want their seruice Secondly that the Apostle described the qualities required in men of this calling doth not say that if none can bee found or not a sufficient man in whome all these qualities concur that then the Church shal rather be destitute of Ministers then haue such For there were in the Apostles time that swarued frō this rule and yet he was glad that they preached the Gospell Heerein we differ not from the confession of the Heluetian church which it is like our aduersaries in this cause doe more reuerence then they doe our owne who say wee condemne all vnmeet Ministers not indued with guifts necessarie for a shepheard that should feed his flock how bee it wee acknowledge that the harmlesse simplicitie of some shepheards in the ould Church did sometime more profit the Church then the great exquisit but a little to proude learning of some others Wherefore we reiect not now a daies the good simplicities of certaine so that they bee not altogether vnskilfull of God and his word and yet for all this let no man think but there are as many learned godlie graue and worthy Ministers of the word in this Church of England at this day bee it spoken without pride to Gods honour and the ioy of our whole land as in any one realme or perticuler Church in all Christendome that either is now or hath beene before vs. But for the scarsetie not of our owne in comparison of others but rather in respect of the multitude of our parish Churches I hope they will giue vs leaue to render them better and truer reasons then as yet wee haue receiued at their hands who onely with out cause to make it the Bishops fault are willing to tell the world that if these vrging of order and obedience which it pleaseth them to tea●●●e beggerlie trifle of mans deuise were not that then learning and religion would not bee of so little account and estimation amongst vs. But I hope all men see that the defect of prouision in this kind and yet I wish that most reformed Churches were but so well furnished is neither from religion professed nor from the gouernment that is vsed nor from the gouernours of the Church but the crueltie of the times past wherein numbers of meete Ministers haue beene consumed the vnwillingnesse of manie at this present who seeing the contentions amongst our selues and by reason of these the contempt of the Clergie are vnwilling to enter into this calling the schismes and deuisions which haue made a number renounce this office others worthilie to bee suspended and depriued from all which the Church which ought to haue had the vse of the labour and learning of men of abilitie is forced to craue a supply at their hands who are not altogether so sufficient to performe that charge But the greatest occasion of this euill is where law and reason haue giuen authoritie to some to be patrons to present their consciences haue beene corrupt and they haue failed of that trust which former times haue iustlie reposed in them Wherein if the people complaine that their authoritie to choose is defeated by this meanes surely it is but vnthankfulnesse in them to mislike a thing begun with so great reason for their good continued now more then a thousand yeeres warranted by lawes and practised with the liking of all nations the beeginning of patronages is not expreslie mentioned in the lawes of this land Aduocations Presentations are remembred in Magna Charta as currant by the lawes before that time the plea of Quare Impedit when Bishops refuse the patrons clarke is mentioned long since for this custome was most vsuall that the patron might not place a Clarke without the Bishop nor the Bishop refuse the Clarke of the patron if hee were such as were alowable by the Canons of the Church In Spaine before that time the councell of Toledo made this Canon wee decree that so long as the founders of Churches remaine in this life they shall bee suffered to haue the chiefe and continuall care of the said place and themselues shall offer meete Rectors vnto the Bishop to bee ordained in those Churches and if the Bishop neglecting the founders shall presume to place any other let him know that this admission shal bee voide and to his shame others shal be placed in their steads euen such as the founders shall choose beeing not vnworthy Long before this the like was determined by the Roman lawes strictlie to bee obseruēd through the Roman Empire If any build a Church or house of praier and would haue Clarks to bee placed there hee or his heires if hee alow maintenance for those Clarks and name such as are worthy let them bee ordained vpon his nomination but if such as they choose bee prohibited by the Canons as vnworthy then let the Bishop take care to promote some whom hee thinketh to bee more worthy It seemeth this law had two reasons for the patronage which doubtlesse are not the least ground of that intrest which they now haue The first the building of the Church a work which while the world was in loue with religion gaind greatest reuerence to those of whom it could point and say these are the men that haue built vs Sinagogs Heerein if any fraudulentlie discharge that vertuous trust which through many discents is deriued vnto them I hope God will looke vpon them in mercie to amendment as the carefull Phisition vpon sick persons in the meane time I must tell them what I heare that the church by their meanes is like the body of the Amalekite sicke and vnlesse it bee refreshed like spedily to die for famine For whilst meaner men content with lesse alowance hauing beene important suters for places in the Church obtaine them the Patrons haue deuided the maintenance of the Clergie and the small alowance hath depriued them peraduenture of a better teacher And howsoeuer good lawes haue beene made to auoide the corruptions of Patrons in this kinde yet the couetous desires of such as hardly satisfied are able to finde meanes to escape the danger and yet falselie notwithstanding to defraud the Church For humane lawes how vertuous or religious soeuer where the vprightnesse of conscience is wanting serueth for the most part not to make the sinne to bee lesse common but the sinner in the fact to bee more secret seeing betwixt God and man this is the difference that the law of man what it seeth doth account sinne but God punisheth as a fault what no man can reueale sauing onely the conscience of him that sinneth In the one Confession is a way to obtaine pardon but in the other a meanes to procure punishment They onely are vertuous who without all respects
our errour or defect bee the burden of that euill must in the end fall vpon our owne heads In which respect euen the heathen themselues thought it vnmeete to offer that vnto God which was impure or vnsound or alreadie giuen or else not truely their owne to bestow Now concerning the vse of those riches whether in moueables or lands which out of mens deuotions were consecrated to holy ends their bestowing is not for God who hath no neede of any thing that is ours seeing the earth is the Lords and all that therein is but because it is our good and aduantage to bee exercised with donations of that kinde he accepteth them to no other end but to haue them imployed to the endles continuāce of religion it selfe So y e inexcusable is the sacriledge of those men who robbing the Church seeke by that pollicie to ouerthrow religion and their opinion is not altogether sound who think no more fit to bee the possession of the church then may serue by a false proportion of theirs to make a naked and bare allowance to some inferiour worthlesse men of the Clergie to whom notwithstanding whilst necessitie want of due prouision inforceth them to beg their maintenance from the Layetie they vnproportionably commit the greatest weightiest authorities in the church wholly or principally to be ruled by them as if naturall and politick wise men did not think that they might iustly challenge an ouerswaying of their Counsells whose verie liuing food rayment must be deducted out of their coffers to whome they will be content so long to be beneficiall and liberall as nothing by the Clergie either in doctrin or discipline shal bee performed contrary to the liking of these men So that the complaint of the pride authoritie in church-men is onely from hence not that in deede their riches are too great but that the maintenance which they haue alotted from antiquitie and happely by good lawes confirmed vnto them is a free and absolute right and possession no wayes depending vpon the courtesie and fauour of laye men who for the most part expect obedience and seruice where they are voluntarily content to afford alowance Men seldome being willing to be reprooued by those men whose condition is absolutely to depend vpon their maintenance This being the ordinarie effect of liberalitie in this kinde beesides that patrons to the Clergie may grow poore that all men at the length become wearie to be continuall giuers Seeing then we can haue no exemption from publishing of that gospel without a woe by which the earth hath men vertuous and the heauen glorious and that without maintenance all the fathers are of opinion it is lawfull to substract our labour and that this maintenance can neither bee conuenient nor perpetual if it be Almes wisdom hath found it out which our Fathers beefore vs haue practised that it was not thought a great honor to those that did it enough onely to build churches to furnish them with rich ornaments not so much to further deuotion as to bee a treasurie for what want soeuer the church might haue as also because these moueables were subiect to casualtie to prouide that the church might haue for perpetuitie a large indowment of inheritance in lands so that seeing wee goe not a warfare vpon our owne expence nor plant not those vineyards wherof wee are or can be debarred to eate the fruit nor feed not those flocks whose milk ought not to bee our foode and seeing all that wee doe is accompanied with a hope which seldome faileth to aunswere the sowing the reaping of other men It were a thing vnreasonable and vnhonest to crie so much for either learning or paines extraordinarie in the Clergie vntill first we had in all parts of the land sufficiently prouided for the maintaining of them For doubtlesse seeing their function deserueth honor wh●ch seldome amongst men is performed what worth soeuer bee in the persons where their abilities are small this beeing the common fault of our corruption to think a want of desert whersoeuer there is a want of reward It is fit that the maintenance for all though not for all alyke were such that the reuerent and estimation which many desire ouergreedely hunt after Cato might not aske but the common wealth should bestow it vpon him for his vertuous merit without sute And doubtlesse without conuenient liuing vertue shall want honor and contempt must needs follow wher that is wanting For howsoeuer the best preachers ought to shun it to auoide pride yet they are willing to be honored that they may be followed and though wee preach not to receiue reward or recompence which wee ought to bee willing if wee were able to doe without others yet wee receiue recompence and reward that wee may preach Neither in this doe wee demaund what nature and reason can deny vnto vs for the labourer is worthie of his hyer Now seeing the Clergie ought to haue a fit maintenance and that some cause ther was in all ages why besides sundry other more rare Donations of vncertaine rate the tenth should be thought a reuenew so natural to be alotted out vnto God let vs consider a litle without offence both the conueniencie of this proporcion and what some reformers displeased with the name of Tythes a thing in their opinion Iewish and Cerimoniall haue in stead thereof offered by way of aduise vnto the church as a conuenient meanes of allowance for her Where seeing maintenance for the Clergie is all that wee stand for wee hope their indifferencie cannot but graunt vs this fauour that it may arise out of that proportion and in that manner as all antiquitie before vs haue thought fit vntill they shall finde out some other meanes whereby the allowance may be certaine and much better And herein though wee make not the practice of Abraham who gaue the tithes of what hee had taken in war vnto Melchisedech to bee a rule of an absolute necessitie to all men that any way are increased and shall liue now yet seeing it was then done by him who it is like knew better what was fit then wee doe and paraduenture was to bee an example to the faithfull as well in this as in other things who therefore amongst other reasons are called the sonnes of Abraham and at that time when the cerimoniall law was not commaunded with so great strictnesse it may bee a better warrant for the children of the Church to prouide for her allowance by example then to hazard such new inuentions of our owne as beeing reiected in this respect onelie that they are new wherein they are subiect to much preiudice are not altogether so like to afford vnto the Church a maintenance either of that indifferencie or continuance as tithes doe For doubtlesse euen these would bee much diminished and detaind if antiquitie and custome did not tell vs that were fit which