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sacrifice_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n only_o exod_a 22.20_o jud._n 13.16.2_o chron._n 34.25_o so_o likewise_o oblation_n and_o vow_n deut._n 23.21_o levit._n 24.5.6_o and_o as_o the_o lord_n condemn_v people_n of_o idolatry_n for_o sacrifice_v to_o creature_n so_o the_o israelite_n be_v reprove_v for_o burn_a incense_n to_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n 2._o king_n 18.4_o and_o to_o the_o queen_n of_o heaven_n jerem._n 44.25_o this_o law_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o substance_n be_v moral_a and_o consequent_o oblige_v christian_n people_n as_o well_o in_o case_n of_o oblation_n as_o of_o sacrifice_n now_o by_o what_o authority_n and_o right_a the_o roman_a church_n can_v abrogate_v this_o law_n in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n and_o appropriate_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n make_v prayer_n vow_n incense_n and_o oblation_n common_a to_o god_n and_o saint_n our_o adversary_n have_v not_o as_o yet_o make_v remonstrance_n and_o the_o jesuit_n in_o this_o place_n allege_v no_o divine_a authority_n to_o give_v his_o majesty_n satisfaction_n but_o produce_v only_o a_o historical_a narration_n out_o of_o s._n augustine_n and_o 〈◊〉_d who_o report_v certain_a miracle_n wrought_v by_o god_n almighty_a at_o the_o sepulcher_n of_o martyr_n jesuit_fw-la i_o answer_v if_o any_o catholic_a shall_v offer_v to_o the_o bless_a mother_n of_o god_n by_o way_n of_o sacrifice_n any_o the_o least_o thing_n he_o be_v severe_o to_o be_v rebuke_v and_o better_o instruct_v for_o sacrifice_n be_v a_o religious_a homage_n due_a to_o god_n only_o in_o which_o respect_n the_o 21._o sacrifice_n of_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n be_v never_o offer_v unto_o any_o but_o unto_o god_n in_o memory_n and_o honour_n of_o saint_n herein_o the_o collyridian_n woman_n priest_n do_v err_v who_o do_v sacrifice_v a_o wafer_n cake_n unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n which_o kind_n of_o worship_n under_o the_o title_n of_o adoration_n s._n epiphanius_n reprove_v 78._o allow_v the_o catholic_a worship_n as_o thereby_o term_v her_o 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note_n who_o be_v sick_a and_o ready_a to_o die_v do_v yet_o very_o obstinate_o refuse_v to_o believe_v in_o christ_n and_o leave_v his_o idolatry_n although_o he_o be_v very_o earnest_o move_v thereunto_o by_o his_o child_n that_o be_v zealous_a christian_n his_o son_n in_o law_n despair_v to_o prevail_v by_o persuasion_n resolve_v to_o go_v and_o pray_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o s._n stephan_n and_o have_v perform_v his_o devotion_n with_o burn_a affection_n with_o many_o groan_n and_o 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o depart_v take_v with_o he_o some_o flower_n that_o be_v on_o the_o shrine_n and_o lay_v they_o secret_o under_o his_o father_n in_o law_n his_o head_n the_o night_n as_o he_o go_v to_o sleep_v behold_v the_o next_o morning_n the_o old_a man_n awake_v outof_o his_o sleep_n cry_v out_o desire_v they_o to_o come_v to_o call_v the_o bishop_n to_o baptise_v he_o he_o have_v his_o desire_n he_o be_v baptize_v afterward_o as_o long_o as_o he_o live_v he_o have_v this_o prayer_n in_o his_o mouth_n lord_n jesu_n receive_v my_o spirit_n be_v altogether_o ignorant_a that_o that_o prayer_n be_v the_o last_o speech_n of_o s._n stephan_n when_o he_o be_v stone_v to_o death_n by_o the_o jew_n which_o also_o be_v the_o last_o word_n of_o this_o happy_a old_a man_n for_o not_o long_o after_o pronounce_v these_o word_n be_v give_v up_o his_o soul_n other_o oblation_n also_o catholic_n use_v to_o offer_v unto_o saint_n not_o as_o sacrifice_n but_o as_o memory_n and_o monument_n of_o benefit_n receive_v as_o picture_n of_o limb_n by_o saint_n prayer_n miraculous_o cure_v that_o therein_o they_o do_v not_o deflect_v from_o ancient_a christian_a devotion_n and_o that_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o her_o best_a time_n use_v universal_o to_o make_v such_o oblation_n theodoret_n be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n who_o write_v against_o the_o gentile_n allege_v as_o a_o manifest_a sign_n of_o christ_n godhead_n 8._o and_o omnipotency_n that_o idol_n be_v exclude_v he_o bring_v in_o martyr_n to_o be_v honour_v in_o their_o room_n not_o superstitious_o as_o god_n but_o religious_o as_o divine_a man_n invocate_a and_o beseech_v they_o to_o be_v intercessor_n for_o they_o unto_o god_n and_o those_o that_o pious_o and_o faithful_o pray_v obtain_v what_o they_o desire_v as_o testify_v the_o oblation_n which_o they_o be_v thereunto_o bind_v by_o their_o vow_n present_v in_o the_o chapel_n of_o the_o saint_n as_o token_n of_o health_n recover_v for_o some_o hang_v up_o image_n of_o eye_n other_o of_o ear_n other_o of_o hand_n some_o make_v of_o gold_n some_o of_o silver_n thus_o he_o so_o general_a and_o so_o notorious_a even_o unto_o infidel_n be_v this_o christian_a devotion_n answer_n touch_v the_o collyridian_n i_o answer_v that_o notwithstanding_o there_o be_v some_o difference_n in_o the_o material_a act_n between_o romist_n and_o they_o yet_o because_o epiphanius_n condemn_v not_o only_o external_a sacrifice_n but_o all_o oblation_n to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o allow_v only_o that_o honour_n and_o not_o adoration_n prosequenda_fw-la shall_v be_v yield_v unto_o she_o therefore_o prayer_n incense-offering_n and_o present_v to_o saint_n decease_v be_v hold_v unlawful_a in_o this_o father_n day_n second_o saint_n augustine_n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la l._n 22._o c._n 8._o do_v not_o mention_v any_o prayer_n oblation_n vow_n or_o donative_n offer_v etc._n to_o saint_n and_o martyr_n but_o he_o report_v what_o miraculous_a cure_n be_v perform_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o some_o martyr_n now_o because_o these_o thing_n be_v extraordinary_a and_o the_o credit_n of_o diverse_a of_o they_o depend_v upon_o fame_n which_o be_v many_o time_n uncertain_a veritate_fw-la and_o st._n augustine_n himself_o say_v they_o be_v not_o commend_v unto_o we_o by_o such_o weighty_a authority_n as_o that_o without_o all_o doubt_n they_o must_v needs_o be_v credit_v credantur_fw-la they_o can_v be_v sufficient_a ground_n or_o foundation_n of_o catholic_a doctrine_n or_o practice_n 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