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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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obedience And that Christ hath giuen him most ful powre as S. Cyril saith he teacheth lib. thesaur which proofe out of S. Cyril this honest challenger left out Austin of Ancona affirmeth Augustin do Ancona in summa p. 152. that The Pope as Christs vicar hath vniuersal iurisdiction ouer al Kingdoms and Empiers Did euer man see greater impudency what word is here of equal powre with God Nay expresse word of inequality if vicars be vnequal to principals deputies to Kings Did Christs humanity when it receaued most ful powre Math. 28. v. 18. and authority S. Mathevv ouer al kingdoms and bounds of the earth psal 2. v. 8. receaue equal powre to Dauid God And if the powre of Christ as man though neuer so ful and vniuersal were create and vnequal to Gods powre who can imagin the powre giuen by Christ as man to a pure man to be equal to Gods I omit Bels error in affirming that Austin of Ioan. 12. liued 956. August de Ancona 1305. Onuph in chron Ancona dedicated his booke to Pope Ihon the twelft who was dead almost 400. years before him But he shold haue said Ihon 22. and this error can not be laid vpon the Printer seeing the number is set downe not in cyphers but letters 2. His dissimulation is euident First because Dissimulati● 4. he concealeth that the opinion That matrimony only contracted may be vpon vrgent occasion dissolued is held but of some Canonists and of very few deuines who commonly hold the contrary But impugneth Bel impugneth an opinion of Canonists and of Protestants as a matter of faith 5. Dissimulation Surius Ann. 1540. Vid. Lindan l. de concordia Haereticor p. 69. it as if it were held of al Catholiques and as a point of their faith Secondly he imposeth the said opinion vpon Catholiques only dissembling that Protestants think not only matrimony contracted but also consummated by carnal copulation may be dissolued impugne Catholiques for not admitting any cause of dissoluing such matrimony 3. Luther the Protestants first Father writ a booke 1540. where he auoucheth it to be hard and vniust that the innocent person may not marry an other after separation made for adultery Caluin calleth it a Caluin 4. instit c. 19. paragr 37. most vniust law Likwise Bucer in cap. 19. Math. Melancht de loc tit de coniugio Kemnitius in 2. part exami And Willet in VVillet controu 15. q. 2. p. 526. 527. name of English Protestants Al these affirme that adultery is a iust cause why euen consummated marriage may be dissolued and a new contracted Luther addeth other Luther in c. 7. ad Corinth edit 1523. causes as the one persuading the other to sinne much debate betwene them and long absence of the one party which if it be done of malice seemeth iust cause to willet and therto he citeth Beza 1. Corinth VVillet sup 7. and other Protestants And this was practized in K. Edward 6. tyme when Syr Ralf Sadler hauing maried one Mathew Baro his wife in his absence though Baro had begotten children of her yet could not recouer her but by Parlament she was adiudged to Sadler Caluin addeth want of Caluin Bucer sup consent of parents if the parties be yong and Bucer addeth incommodious behauior of ether party to be a sufficient cause 4. Wherfore if the Pope by dissoluing Bel pag. 37. contracted matrimony which he doth very seldom and vpon vrgent occasion weighty cause challenge as Bel saith powre equal to God Surely Protestants by dissoluing consummated matrimony often and vpon so many causes wherof some are very smale and not sufficient to dissolue a meere ciuil contract do challenge powre aboue God But let vs see how he against some Catholiques and generally al Protestants proueth that contracted matrimony can not be dissolued but by God alone for any cause whatsoeuer 5. His reason is because Christ said Math. pag. 38. c. 19. v. 6. what God hath ioyned let not man seperate and Luc. 16. v. 18. Euery one that putteth away his wife and marieth an other committeth adultery And S. Paul 1. Corinth c. 7. v. 10. Those that are ioyned in matrimony command not I but our lord that the wife depart not from the husband but if she depart abide vnmaried or be reconciled to her husband To this the Canonists answer That Christ and his Apostle spake only of consummated matrimony because Math. 19. Christ forbiddeth seperation of such as immediatly before he had said to be made one flesh which is by consummation of matrimony And likewise Luc. 16. prohibiteth mariage after dismission of a wife carnally known as is gathered out of Math. 5. v. 32. where he vseth the same words and citeth the law of diuorce Deut. 24. v. 1. which speaketh of a woman carnally known saying If a man haue taken a vvife and had her and she haue not found fauor in his eyes for some filthines he shal c. And hereby are answered the words of S. Paul in which he referreth him self to the precept of Christ Besids that S. Thecla virgin was by him soluta à nuptijs losed from mariage as writeth S. Epiph. haer 78. which S. Epiphan fact S. Ambros lib. 2. de virg commendeth S. Ambros and it argueth that the Apostle tought vnconsummated mariage might be dissolued 6. Against this answer Bel bringeth many replies in number but none of force 1. That if contracted matrimony were not de iure pag. 38. diuino the greatest Popish Doctors vvold not deny the Popes dispensation therin Lo here when it maketh for his purpose he confesseth the greatest Catholique Doctors to think contracted matrimony to be indissoluble Why then doth he impugne the contrary as an Article of our faith To his argument I answer that though al Catholiques beleeue the institution of contracted matrimony to be of God and Deuines for the most part probably thinke the continuance also therof to be iure diuino and commanded by God yet neuertheles Canonists do probably teach that the continuance of it is not absolutly and in al cases commanded by God but may vpon great and vrgent causes be dissolued by the Church 7. Secondly he replyeth that Christ speaketh absolutly and maketh no mention of copulation or popish consummation Answer Though in that verse he spake absolutly yet immediatly before he made mention of copulation And wil Bel forbid vs to expound a sentence of Scripture by the antecedents or consequents But I maruel much why he tearmed consummation or copulation popish Me thinketh he shold rather cal it Ministerish For Papists can say with S. Austin lib. de bono coniug c. 13. tom 6. VVe S. Austin see lib. 5. cont Faust c. 9. haue many brethren and companions of the heauenly inheritance of both sexes vvho are continent ether after experience of mariage or are free from al such copulation such are innumerable But for Ministers their first
father Luther imita●ing Luther lib. de vit coniugali 1522. See S. Iren. lib. 1. c. 1. Raro haereticus diligit castitatem Hieron in c. 7. Oseae pag. 38. the beastly Valentinians writeth that it is as necessary to haue a wife as to eat drinke or sleepe and how wel ministers practice this doctrin let al England be iudge 8. His third reply is that Papists thinck matrimony contracted to be a Sacrament ergo saith he perfect before copulatiō indispensable by man For as Canus saith The holy Ghost and grace of Canus lib. 8. de locis c. 5. Sacrament is not giuen by copulation Answer graunting the Antecedent I deny the consequence For though it haue the essence yet hath it not the perfection of the Sacrament before copulation Because before it signifyeth only the spiritual coniunction of Christ with a soule by grace as S. Thomas S. Thom. 4. d. 27. q. 1. art 3. q. 1. Innocent 3. c. delictum de digamis and Innoc. 3. teach which as it may by man be dissolued so also may matrimony before consummation but after it signifieth also the coniunction of Christ to the Church by flesh which as man can not dissolue so nether can he dissolue matrimony after consummation And as a seal is the parfection of a bargain making it more hard to be broken then otherwise it shold be so copulation is as it were the seal of the couenant of wedlock made betwixt man woman maketh it more indissoluble then otherwise it should be 9. As for Canus he meaneth of sinful copulation betwixt persons only affianced when they saith he after spousals company together But as for coniugal copulation after matrimony is contracted if it be done in that manner and for that end it should be it giueth grace and is meritorius as appeareth by S. Austin l. de bon coniug c. 21. 22. See S. Austin l. 1. de nupt concup c. 12. 13. 14. 15. tom 7. tom 6. where though he prefer the chastity of single life before the chastity of mariage yet he compareth Abrahams merit in his holy vsage of mariage with S. Ihons merit in liuing single Besides lawful copulation is a good worke as I hope Bel wil not deny but according to his owne doctrin art 5. Artic. 5. p. 61. euery good worke is meritorius or impetratorius of Gods fauor reward His fourh reply vz that matrimony should not be fully perfected in the Church if copulation do perfect it containeth no new difficulty 10. Fiftly he argueth it to be absurd That matrimony beginneth to be a Sacramant by pag. 39. copulation and was not by the Priests action 44 vntruth But more absurd it is to vtter vntruths For Catholiques say not that it beginneth to be See Bellar. l. 2. de Monachis c. 38. The contrary is a particuler opinion of Canus l. 8. de loc c. 5. Conc. Trid. sess 24. c. 1. de Reform pag. 39. a Sacrament by copulatiō or by the Priests action but that it beginneth by the mutual consent of the parties and is perfected by their copulation though that it be lawfully contracted the Priests ptesence be required His sixt obiection is that Matrimony was perfect in Paradise betwixt Adam and Eue. But this is to assume that which he was to proue His seuenth reply is If contracted matrimony were not de iure diuino both parties agreeing they might dissolue it them selues as they can dissolue spousals because as the lavv saith euery one may yeeld vp his right Answer Contracted matrimony is a Sacrament instituted by God and therfore can not be dissolued but by such as succeeding the Apostles are dispensers of Gods misteries 1. Corinth 4. S. Paul v. 1. The like reason is not of spousals nor of any other contract instituted by man 11. Eighthly he replyeth That mariage betwene the B. virgin and Ioseph was perfect where doubtles wanted copulation That it was perfect he proueth because the Math. 1. angel called her Iosephs wife And S. Ambrose saith That not deflowring of virginity S. Ambros de institut virg ca. 6. tom 1. S. August l. 2. de consens Euang. c. 1. tom 4. Lib. 1. de nupt concup c. 11. to 7. but coniugal couenant maketh wedlock And S. Austin writeth That we rightly vnderstand Ioseph to be maries husband by very copulation of wedlock without commixtion of flesh Againe God forbid that the bond of wedloock rumpatur be broken betwixt them who are content vpon mutual consent to abstein for euer from vse of carnal concupiscence For it was not falsly said of the Angel vnto Ioseph Fear not to take thy wife mary Answer Al these proofs conuince no more then that contracted matrimony is true mariage as we willingly confesse was betwixt Ioseph and our B. Lady For the Angel calleth her not Iosephs perfect wife but absolutly his wife Wherupon S. Hierom l. S. Hierom. pr. fin cont Heluid saith S. Ioseph was rather a keeper then a husband and in c. 1. Math. When thou hearest an husband do not suspect mariage but remember the custome of Scripture that spouses are called husbands and spousesses wises And S. Basil hom de human Chris gener calleth S. Basil that dispousation wherwith S. Ioseph and our Lady were maried beginning of Mariage As for S. Ambrose he denyeth not that deflowring perfecteth mariage but that it maketh it And S. Austin in the first place affirmeth that we truly vnderstand Ioseph to be Maries husband without copulation but addeth not that he is so perfectly 12. To the secōd place I answer that S. Austin speaketh there only of cōsummated mariage both because his intention in those Lib. 1. c. 1. books was as he professeth in the beginning to shew against the Pelagians That though childrē infected with original sinne do proceed from mariage it selfe is no sinne which difficulty hath no place but in cōsummated mariage As also because after he had proued in the forsaid 11. chapter that the bond of wedlock is not broken by purpose of absteining from vse as he speaketh of concupiscence or exercise of marigeable acts in the next chapter he concludeth thus VVherfore Cap. 22. then may not they remain man and vvife vvho of consent leaue of companying together if Ioseph and mary remayned man and vvife vvho not so much as began to company together By which Conclusion of his it is euident that before he had spoken only of consummated mariage and only meant to proue that it is not broken by priuate determination or purpose of the parties to absteine from exercise of copulation Which he proued by an argument a fortiori because vnconsummated matrimony of our B. Lady and Ioseph was not broken by their purpose of absteining from al carnal knowledge But whither vnconsummated matrimony which is not broken by such priuate purposes of the parties maried may vpon iust and vrgent cause be dissolued by