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the_o safe_a custody_n of_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n they_o have_v send_v for_o he_o and_o have_v take_v order_n in_o it_o and_o touch_v the_o receive_n of_o the_o examination_n in_o this_o cause_n there_o shall_v be_v the_o same_o course_n observe_v in_o they_o as_o be_v in_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n thursday_n december_n 31._o 1640._o the_o article_n against_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n by_o former_a order_n ingross_v be_v twice_o read_v and_o than_o it_o be_v resolve_v upon_o the_o question_n that_o these_o article_n thus_o ingross_v and_o read_v shall_v be_v send_v up_o to_o the_o lord_n by_o the_o commons_o assemble_v in_o parliament_n in_o maintenance_n of_o their_o accusation_n of_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n whereby_o he_o stand_v charge_v of_o high_a treason_n and_o it_o be_v order_v that_o mr._n pym_n go_v up_o with_o these_o article_n resolve_v upon_o the_o question_n that_o a_o message_n be_v send_v forthwith_o to_o the_o lord_n to_o desire_v a_o conference_n of_o both_o house_n concern_v article_n exhibit_v in_o maintenance_n of_o the_o charge_n against_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n sir_n john_n strangways_o go_v up_o with_o this_o message_n it_o be_v move_v that_o the_o house_n will_v think_v of_o some_o answer_n to_o the_o lord_n concern_v the_o charge_n against_o the_o lord_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n and_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n deliver_v from_o the_o scottish_a commissioner_n at_o a_o conference_n by_o a_o committee_n of_o both_o house_n monday_n january_n four_o 1640._o ordered_n that_o a_o conference_n be_v desire_v with_o the_o lord_n to_o morrow_n morning_n concern_v the_o state_n the_o disorder_n and_o danger_n of_o the_o new_a levy_a army_n irish_a army_n and_o to_o present_v they_o to_o their_o lordship_n and_o to_o desire_v they_o to_o join_v with_o the_o house_n in_o a_o petition_n to_o his_o majesty_n for_o the_o disband_n of_o that_o army_n the_o committee_n appoint_v for_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n business_n be_v 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redress_v of_o grievance_n and_o oppression_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o charge_n against_o my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n for_o the_o instruction_n of_o may_n 1628._o on_o a_o petition_n by_o the_o inhabitant_n the_o petition_n be_v that_o they_o may_v make_v personal_a residence_n at_o least_o half_a a_o year_n but_o that_o relate_v to_o undertaker_n and_o other_o that_o have_v land_n and_o office_n there_o and_o so_o be_v for_o the_o same_o purpose_n that_o the_o land_n shall_v be_v safeguard_v but_o certain_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n between_o residence_n and_o restrain_v a_o resort_v hither_o to_o make_v complaint_n to_o his_o majesty_n it_o be_v true_a there_o shall_v be_v a_o residence_n they_o be_v not_o to_o depart_v without_o licence_n but_o if_o they_o have_v temporary_a occasion_n or_o reason_n of_o complaint_n it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o instruction_n that_o licence_n shall_v be_v deny_v my_o lord_n insist_o on_o this_o that_o it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o 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